ETS Tour Journal

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The show was amazing! As always Trent is great. As for the dummer... kudos to Alex. What a great job!!

Just got home... I believe I got the setlist down... Show was ok - not as thrilled with the band. They didn't seem too enthused with playing. I realize that Robin, Charlie, etc. aren't there - and accept that. However, Jeordie could look like he cares a little bit...

Pinion
Love is not enough
Wish
Terrible Lie
The line begins to blur
March of the pigs
The frail
The wretched
Closer
Burn
Gave up
Eraser
Right where it belongs
Beside you in time
Sin
Reptile
Only
Hurt
Suck
The hand that feeds
Head like a hole


Autolux were great - first time seeing them/hearing them. Good blend of Slowdive/JMC/BRMC.

Thankfully, QOTSA didn't utter any stupid banters to the crowd.

Show started late - thought that nin.com had show starting at 655, however as of 725, no show was moving.

Very disappointed that it wasn't a sell out. Felt bad that Trent was used to selling out the Palace, and couldn't sell out Joe Louis.

Thanks, nin, for a good performance!

Oh, man. I just got home. The show was AMAZING! This was my first time seeing all three bands on the bill and I was not disappointed. Everything was a half hour late for some reason, and it took forever(or at least it seemed that way) for us to even get into the arena! The line moved a little bit, then stopped for so long that I put my coat on the floor and sat down, haha.

These guys(I mentally referred to them as RBMs: Random Black Men) kept walking past asking if anyone had any extra tickets, which was amusing since it was so obvious it was so they could scalp it. And don't even get me started on those ugly-ass NIN tshirts some guy was selling after the show. I'm sure they were 100% official! *insert eye rolling emoticon*

I'm super tired right now and I've got to get up early, so I'll just get to the good stuff.

I really liked the way Autolux segued into each song. I think they only stopped about three times.

Josh from QOTSA wished us a happy Saturday and said he hoped we all got laid. Sweet, that guy.

I don't have enough adjectives in my vernacular to say how awesome NIN was.

The set list from my (awful) memory and totally out of order except for the first two songs and the last three songs:
Love Is Not Enough
Wish
March of the Pigs (I believe TR called us little piggies here, I know he said it was good to be back in Detroit)
The Line Begins To Blur
Burn
The Frail/The Wretched (To get all fangirly here: This was the first and only time in my life that I wished I was a microphone stand.)
Eraser
Gave Up
Suck
Reptile (TR: "This is a song we just really like playing.")
Only (For some reason TR opens this one by saying, "This is something new" which I guess it is because it's like the Only remix, but I thought we were gonna get Not So Pretty Now)
Right Where it Belongs (We all gave Bush the finger when the clip of him dancing with his wife came up during this)
Beside You In Time
Sin
Closer
Hurt (This part was the greatest. It was beautiful seeing everyone with their lighters held up. Even the people who were up in the boxes had their lighters out. When this song was over, Trent thanked us and said(I'm paraphrasing) that he doesn't usually talk much in concert because he doesn't like to, but he never thought he'd be performing on stage, much less in front of a great crowd like us [Woo!!] and that he got caught up in the moment. Then he thanked Queens and Autolux for being "two great fucking opening bands", and then goes "I'd also like to thank--hold on, I have a list here" and acted like he was fishing through his pocket while we all lapped it up.)
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

During THTF, this really drunk guy came over with his friend and he fell when he was trying to get past me. After I helped him up, he decided that he wanted me to jump the rail with him and go into the pit, which I wasn't gonna do because I knew the show was about to end. He kept trying to talk to me while the music was blaring, so I didn't hear everything that he said, but I do know that somewhere in the conversation he elected me President. Good times. It was really funny because after HLAH he's like, "Ok, let's go!" and we had to tell him that the concert was over.

My throat's all scratchy from the smoke (from NINs smoke machine and all the smokers around me) and when I got out of the arena my eyes started burning and tearing up, so hopefully anyone that saw me doesn't think I was so upset that the concert was over that I was crying. I'll add more later, it's bedtime for me.

Boba wrote:Very disappointed that it wasn't a sell out. Felt bad that Trent was used to selling out the Palace, and couldn't sell out Joe Louis.

Alright, I know I said I was going to bed, but I had to comment on this. I don't understand why you were disappointed, as the seats that were empty were, for the most part, pretty shitty. If the arena looked like it did before QOTSA, I'd have been upset too, but the place did fill up.

Just got home. First time seeing NIN. That was the best concert I've ever been to. Incredible.

I'm glad I joined The Spiral. There was a looonngg line to get into the arena from the parking garage, and I got to walk right past the entire line. That was handy. Also, the seats I had were amazing. Perfect view.

I thought Autolux and Queens of the Stone Age were really good. Josh wished us a happy Saturday. That was nice of him.

During Autolux's set, Trent walked right passed me as he was going out into the crowd to watch Autolux, and then right passed me again as he was going backstage. He was literally right in front of me. That was pretty cool.

As I said before, the show was amazing. The set list was the same as Chicago I believe.

The new drummer was really good. I didn't notice him mess up at all.

The audience was really good too. Trent seemed to think so as well.

1. Pinion
2. Love Is Not Enough - Playing behind the veil made for a nice effect.
3. Wish
4. Terrible Lie - Trent's guitar strap seemed to have came undone and his guitar dropped to the stage I think. That or Trent just dropped his guitar on purpose. But he seemed angry about it, and started throwing mic stands and pushing amps.
5. The Line Begins to Blur
6. March of the Pigs - Before this song Trent said "Back in Detroit...bunch of fucking pigs!" Then before the "All the Pigs All Lined Up" part Trent jumped into the audience.
7. The Frail
8. The Wretched
9. Closer
10. Burn
11. Gave Up
12. Eraser - Loved the visuals during this, RWIB, and BYIT.
13. Right Where It Belongs
14. Beside You In Time
15. Sin
16. Only - Trent said "This is something new" before playing Only, which made me think we were going to hear Not So Pretty Now, but we didn't. But that's okay, Only sounded really different/good live.
17. Reptile - They played Reptile! One of my favorite songs. And Alex/Alessandro/whoever didn't mess it up this time. Before they played it Trent said "We're going to play this next song because..we like to." He picked a good song to like to play.
18. Suck
19. Hurt - This song was amazing. The entire crowd got into it. Seeing everyone clap their hands and hold up their lighters and sing along was just..incredible. After the song Trent said "I usually don't talk much because...I don't like to. But I just want to say that I got kind of caught up in the moment during that. Three years ago I never thought I'd be on stage, much less playing to an awesome crowd like this. I just want to thank you all. I also want to thank Autolux and Queens of the Stone Age, two fucking awesome bands, and Alex Carepetis for filling in on drums. I also want to thank..hold on, I have a list *reaches into back pocket* No I'm just kidding." or something to that effect. That was really cool.
20. The Hand That Feeds
21. Head Like A Hole - They destroyed stuff during this song.

Yes that was awesome. Not much left to be said on my part since I agree with Leper and Rondar. The arrangement of the setlist was perfect though. I got good and tired right up to Right Where It Belongs, then it was calm time for a while, and then the songs that followed that were't ones that wore me out.

Best concert I've been to.

I was very impressed with the concert (We got "Suck" instead of "Starfuckers"! Whooo!)

Some really drunk people sat down behind my friends and I and this chick on this guy's lap kept kicking my poor friend in the head. The people then proceeded to spill beer all over so it dripped down all over our stuff. I have a brown beer stain in the shape of my flip-flop strap now. Sick.

I was surprisingly impressed with QOTSA.

I was annoyed in the tunnel walking to the exit with all the people smoking though. I was so thirsty and lightheaded from the concert. Fresh air sounded so good (well, as fresh as the air in Detroit can be.) but I didn't get to get any until I was actually outside.

Puh.

It was a good show though. I was impressed with the crowd.

FUCKING FANTASTIC.
seriously.

+Alex was great (although I think he fucked up during The Wretched).

+Hurt was incredible. I didn't think i'd be that excited to hear that live, but the performance was just...wow. Everyone was singing along, but not in a cheesy/annoying way. It was icing on the cake when he actually thanked the audience afterwards.

+I have a new appreciation for THTF (which i didn't care for before tonight).

+In the bathroom, I heard the following:
"Yeah, um, i heard that Marylin Manson like, took NIN's drummer and so now the guy from the foo fighters is the drummer."
You heard it here first.


+The stage setup/visuals were the best i've ever seen, hands down (especially during TLBTB and Beside You in Time.) I was relieved to see that the anti-bush propaganda was well done.

SO yeah.
I've been waiting to see NIN for seven years.
It was worth the wait.

Great show, although I can definitely tell it isn't Jerome up there on the drums.

My guest and I were first in line (10 am). Well, myself and about 30 other people were let in for the soundcheck.

Soundcheck:

Suck
Gave Up
Reptile


After the soundcheck the band came down and met with us and signed autographs. I had Trent sign my Spiral card. I would post a pic right now, but I need to get ready to go to Cleveland.

Overall it was a great show and a great experience. I'm glad I joined the Spiral.

I have seen nin several times... and this was deffinately one of their best productions. Eventhough i did catch the drummer drop a beat one time, i think he did an amazing job for only the second show. Trent actually talked! he said something along the lines of: i dont normally talk during shows, because i dont like to. but id like to thank the crowd and he introduced alex the drummer for the first time on the tour. The production of the show, with the lighting and projections, was amazing and couldnt have been done better. As for the opening bands, they of course did not blow my mind, but i think they were perfect opening bands. They put on a good show and did a great job respectively. The job of an opening band is to get their name out there and warm the crowd up along with not detouring from the main act, these bands were perfect for the job. I think trent has evolved nin into something that is extraodinary, and i cant wait to see where he goes from here.

Best fucking show I have ever seen. High energy from all the bands how ever NIN definitely took the cake. The visuals during eraser/rwib/Beside you in time were the most intense thing I've ever seen at a concert. the seats we had were a bit nose bleed but It actually made it better for seeing the visuals.

I saw trent grin numerous times throughout the show, mostly during head like a hole.

and love is not enough kills live.

I hate to be frank but many NIN fans are pretentious, elitist, and shortsighted. Everyone talks about the energy and aesthetic of the NIN show and how great it is, and how Queens of the Stone Age and Autolux pale in comparison in those two realms. However, there is something more important and relevant that underlies each band.
Trent Reznor, and the NIN name, is a symbol of Musical Integrity and Creative Independence. In a time of corporate driven musical tendacies it is refreshing and liberating to know that there are artists out there who create and perform music out of there own heart, and not there pocket books. If you take a close look at Josh Homme and Queens you will notice some glarring similarities in their career paths, especially in terms of creative philosophies. An indepth look into the Queens' catalog not only displays musical creativeness but also a constant: Josh Homme. It is his leadership and guidance that makes Queens possible, and has allowed it to become recognized as a legitimate musical force. We give Trent credit when he enlists Dave Grohl to record some tracks for NIN, and we should do they same for Queens when they had him do entire album's worth of drumming tracks.
A second gripe I have is peoples' negative reaction to Jerodie White's disposition. Who gives a flying fuck??? He is a wonderful multi-instrumentalist, who Trent speak very very highly of. His lack of jumping and nodding is trival because what really matters is the life and attitude he gives the music. You tell me of another musician who could pull off not only "Only" on base but "Sin" as well?? If I recall correctly that was never the case on the past tours with Danny Lohner on bass.
So when it comes down to it, NIN fans need to open their minds a little bit and take a deeper look at how music is percieved and experienced in today's money driven world.


On a more lighter note:
The show last night was something that I will remember for a very long time. Having not seen NIN since the Bowie Tour in '95, I was in full frontal mood of excitement for the show. And another thing, stop the fucking nit picking of the drummer; it is an amazing feat to get up there with very little rehearsal time and be able to sound so tight with an established band, an amazing feat and Alex did a wonderful, professional, and envigorating job. The setlist was perfect b/c it not only did it span the entire catalog but it also established a mood and theme in terms of sound and lyrical content. The most powerful thing to me was the projection of the juxtapostions of animal behavior, technology, warfare, the American Dream, and the American Reality, and how many of us live in a world where people shelter themselves from the truths and and realities of our country, and want to express that as necessary. For instance, Trent's strategic use of Suburban landscapes really moved me because it tacitly talked of how conformity and complacency is running rampent in our world, and has penetrated to our inner psyche.
However, the most rewarding thing to me was the crowd uproarious reaction to the band and the songs. Detroit is one of the great cities of the world to view and experience a concert in, and it showed last night. Trent's few words were a reflection of that recognition. All in all, a wonderful set from a wonderful band who exemplifies a powerful position of musical integrity.

I was touched when Trent said he was "caught up in the moment" during hurt. It was amazing hearing the crowd's voices singing along. This was my first NIN show. I've been to many other concerts. I love talking to fans of music, I must say, these nin fans were incredibly friendly, I wish I could have got some of your names or hung out a little after the show.

After the show was amusing to me. As an army of mostly black wearing fans crossed the street during a green light, a cop was standing in the middle of the intersection, watching us polietly. An impatient car laid on his horn. The pissed of look on the cops face was priceless!!! he started walking up to the car to........well, I don't know what happend after that.

And don't get ME started on the ugly ass $10 bootleg shirts they were trying to sell. I started bitching to my boyfriend that those are the ugliest shirts I've ever seen and no nin fan should or want to buy one. The guy walking in front of us listening pulled out his shirts he was selling, and looked at them.

Autolux needs some sort of guidance, in the form of a producer. They have the musical prowess, but no real direction in what they do. It's basically just a smash of sonic charged guitar riffs and heavy drumming. They could be really good if they could learn how to form a song.

Queens of the Stone Age were the Kings of the Rock World last night. Every song they did sounded so much better than on record, and the songs on record are still incredible. Homme dances funny with his guitar. I think they were absolutely brilliant. They knew how to use a distorted guitar without overdoing it (Again Autolux, take notes). Brilliant performance.

Nine Inch Nails were... well, Nine Inch Nails. It was the greatest night of my life seeing them (and that Angie chick. I'm pretty sure she thinks I'm a tool for smiling at her all of the time, but I couldn't help it). It was a progressively amazing night. I don't give a shit what Trent says about Cash now owning Hurt. Hurt was *his song* and forever will be, and Detroit proved it. We sang along. We held lighters. We had our hands in the air. It was beautiful. "Reptile" seemed to turn a lot of women on, I seen

That was my first ever concert and it was worth the wait. I will never forget it. I'll also never forget hearing that I can't bring a flagpole into the Joe Louis. I mean, Flagpole? What the fuck?

This is whole debate is pointless, this is the BS I am talking about. Everyone is just nit picking and trying to find a way to bring back Old Nails. Get over it NIN is one man with a vision and has a revolving door of talent he surrounds himself with. Period!

wscarlet wrote:You tell me of another musician who could pull off not only "Only" on base but "Sin" as well?? If I recall correctly that was never the case on the past tours with Danny Lohner on bass.

I must know what you are referring to. Danny never played Only.

Not much to add from what's already been said.

I really enjoyed Autolux and QOTSA. I thought the crowd was really into everything. Everyone in the seats stood up the whole show. I think some other people were complaining that this didn't happen at some of the other shows?

The setlist blew me away. I'm NOT complaining, but I don't think Burn put out the same output it could have. Something was missing from the crowd, not enough people recognized it, and it felt like it was missing that energy.

Took a friend that hadn't been to a NIN concert, and he loved it. He's officially hooked.

Amazing concert.

What whole "debate" would that be? The posters are just saying what they thought of the show, I don't get why that's such a big deal. And I haven't read a sentence here saying anything like "I wish they'd done *insert whatever here*, like they did last time I saw them!" It sounds like you just feel like arguing.

Well, I dunno about you guys, but I'm fucking ecstatic that we got "Suck" instead of "Starfuckers, Inc." Mmmm, that's good stuff.

"Hurt" was absolutely beautiful. I was in the seats on the first level, directly opposite the stage, so I saw the sea of lighters. I was so astounded to hear every-fucking-one singing along that I forgot to join in until the first chorus. Heh.

The "Closer" breakdown during "The Only Time" wasn't quite what I'd expected. I thought maybe he'd sing a quick chorus or something, but no. Guess I should've downloaded a bootleg or two before going to the show. Still very cool, though.

But the clapping during MOTP has to go.

Oh, and I got my litho! *squee* I stopped at a merch booth afterward to get a shirt, and the lithos at that particular booth had sold out. Good thing I got it when I did.

Now to write a real review for my school's student newspaper. Go go journalism major.

After seeing many NIN shows, this one ranked somewhere in the middle for me. I loved the visuals, as Trent has always done a good job with that. I thought the "poltical" message was tasteful and not too over the top. I'm not much a fan of Aaron North. He just ran around and looked goofy, but he did add energy the other side of the stage did not seem to have last night. Most importantly, I noticed that the transitions between songs that Trent is known for were missing, no doubt due to the absence of Jerome Dillon. It was the first time I heard Pinion not REALLY transition into the next song. Oh well, at least the crowd seemed more emotional than usual, which is a good sign.

Oh yeah, this has been bothering me all last night and today? Did they play "Shake the Disease" before Autolux even played? I was singing it all day and then when I was out at the merch booth, it was stuck in my head more than it already was. I can't figure out if they actually played it or if I'm delusional.

Great show, driving from Chicago and all. I must say though that the Joe Lewis Arena really needs to fucking work on organizing their parking better. Taking an hour and a half to get out of the garage is fucking shitty! But the beer vendors on the floor, does make up for it!

Great fucking show all and all though.

I actually got his little 'speech' recorded with my camera, along with a bunch of other shit. I especially love that they played beside you in time, and eraser was definatly awesome. I loved the downward spiralish feeling I got from the visuals during those couple songs. I had another fucking person land on my head, almost breaking my next again. This time it really fucking hurt, at the may 7th show it didn't feel like it was going to knock me out, but anyways very sweet show indeed.

He thanked the crowd...he thanked the band(s)...how about the crew? Too bad he can't pull that "thank you" out of his ass (aka pocket)

They bust their balls..... with no time off ,in over 10 days to make this show as great as it is........

Just throwing it out there in the universe.....

Time for me to jump on the bandwagon as well and say that the show was fucking fantastic. Blah blah blah lots of energy blah blah blah every song kicked major ass blah. The lighting and everything was incredible. Kudos. Had a lot of fun, and I was left with the feeling of wanting more. And I couldn't get it. Now I have to wait a long time to see them again. Oh well. I had an extreme amount of fun.

MayG00 wrote:He thanked the crowd...he thanked the band(s)...how about the crew? Too bad he can't pull that "thank you" out of his ass (aka pocket)

They bust their balls..... with no time off ,in over 10 days to make this show as great as it is........

Just throwing it out there in the universe.....

I imagine the crew gets paid to do their job. I see where your coming from, but they are doing what they are supposed to do. The crowd can be lame, but it wasn't at this show. If the crew is lame I think theyd get replaced.

This show was the best show I've ever been to.

Autolux was simply amazing, for being an opening band that hasn't got that much attention the entire tour, really made a name for themselves. Queens of the stone Age were also good, songs were oddly drawn out, but nonetheless good. I believe I was standing near rondar because there was a guy doing that exact same thing, along with the guy doing the heil hitler arm jazz, not my favorite, but ignorable with the nails in the background. Really good set by NIN. I liked the mixture of songs, it wasnt all new, or all old, well rounded and well presented. One thing I would like to point out is the lighting during the show. I'm a tech guy myself and I must say good job to the light designers and tech guys, that was amazing and I would have to believe that was quite the daunting task, and those guys need a fucking handshake. Overall, this was the first show of the Nine Inch Nails I had gone to, and will say that I was very impressed, and would like to go the next time around. Nice Job.

wscarlet wrote: You tell me of another musician who could pull off not only "Only" on base but "Sin" as well?? If I recall correctly that was never the case on the past tours with Danny Lohner on bass.
So when it comes down to it, NIN fans need to open their minds a little bit and take a deeper look at how music is percieved and experienced in today's money driven world.

Hahahaha man you're a complete retard. I got a better thing for you to do. Find me a musician who couldn't play the bass line, drums or guitar to those two songs. By the way "bass" is not spelled "base" moron. Don't post here, there should be an age limit for people like you. Oh by the way, "Only" is on the newest album so why the fuck would they have played it at the last tour. Know your facts before posting again. You look really stupid.

kainen_J wrote:

wscarlet wrote: You tell me of another musician who could pull off not only "Only" on base but "Sin" as well?? If I recall correctly that was never the case on the past tours with Danny Lohner on bass.
So when it comes down to it, NIN fans need to open their minds a little bit and take a deeper look at how music is percieved and experienced in today's money driven world.

Hahahaha man you're a complete retard. I got a better thing for you to do. Find me a musician who couldn't play the bass line, drums or guitar to those two songs. By the way "bass" is not spelled "base" moron. Don't post here, there should be an age limit for people like you. Oh by the way, "Only" is on the newest album so why the fuck would they have played it at the last tour. Know your facts before posting again. You look really stupid.

down boy, down. its only a rock show, not "as the world turns"

So you are pretty much saying that the current incarnation of NIN is "bellow-average" along with music as well?? An inditement like that reveals your not that trusting in Trent b/c only a small minded moron wouldn't notice that a criticism of the man's choice is an assault on his character as well. It's nice to see you hold Trent in such high esteem. Trust the man, there are very few men in this world that we can have such worth in at the moment.

Oh yeah one more thing. I'm kind of curious to know how old you think I am because my age will probably shock all who have read my post.
Secondly, "base" and "bass" strong criticism....haha

Yeah, me again. NIN is not some linear progression of songs. NIN is overall umbrella of emotions, thoughts, and perspectives. Yes, I know "Only" wasn't played on the last tour. Really genius to mention it. Songs from PHM to With Teeth may be in excess of 15 years a part, but a real NIN would feel that they all fall into one gigantic, moving UNDERSTANDING.

wscarlet wrote:Oh yeah one more thing. I'm kind of curious to know how old you think I am because my age will probably shock all who have read my post.
Secondly, "base" and "bass" strong criticism....haha

No age would surprise me, but I still want to know what you were talking about.

the new drummer fucked up gave up. during the "wake up"s, trent stopped and the drummer just missed one beat, but was on the rest. i thought trent was going to go berserk on him.

I didn't notice Alex mess up at all... but maybe I missed something... who knows?

I love Suck. Like... one of my favorite songs EVER. And hearing it last night was really really good for me. Eraser seemed to drag on a bit too long for my tastes. Also, Sin seemed a bit off to me. And I don't know if it was because Jeordie playing his part on bass instead of a keyboard sounded different or what, but something about the song seemed a bit off to me. I broke my lighter during Hurt. I must have flicked it too hard or something. And everyone singing along with it was really really cool. NIN was incredible and I can't wait for the next show (whenever that is).

As for the openers... Whoever said Autolux is talented but needs to learn how to put a song together hit the nail on the head. I thought they were cool, but they were just lacking something. Song structure is probably what it was. The other people I was with didn't like them, but said they had a really good drummer... and they do.

QOTSA was ok. I liked them more than I expected to, but they still could have been a bit better. Josh seemed to tune down on the moronic banter that people have been complaining about the past few shows. However, they did a really good set. It just wasn't my cup of tea...

Head like a hole is still ringing in my ears. And I love it!

Prior to the show at Joe Louis Arena on Saturday 10/08/05, I've seen NIN twice. One was the NIN/Bowie tour in 1995, the other was the Fragility tour in 1998. The NIN show I witnessed on Saturday was by far the best concert I've ever seen in my life.

I arrived at the Joe around 8:30PM. Upon entering the venue, Queens of the Stone Age were in the middle of their set. I only know of one of their songs. That coupled with what I've read in the tour journal postings about Queens being relatively boring and songs sounding alike, I chose to have a couple overpriced beers in the concourse as the band finished their set. I'm sure they're excellent musicians along with Autolux, and I think there are many opening bands that get the same response due to the crowd being unfamiliar with the material. I figured I'd simply do it right that evening by finding my lower-bowl seat, then wait for that magic moment when the house lights cut out prior to NIN taking the stage.

I snagged a decent seat online several months before the show. Not the best, but then again not the worst, I was just happy to be there. After finding my seat, the house lights cut out around 10:00PM approximately. The crowd immediately roared, anxious with nervous energy. The rhythmic electronic pulsing of "Pinion" swept over the crowd as the stage remained darkened behind a translucent curtain. This curtain continued to conceal the stage as the band played "Love Is Not Enough" with each band member at times appearing as a silhouette, backlit by flashing lights.
The curtain dropped to the floor and NIN tore into Wish, accompanied by bright white strobes flashing in an intricate pattern that could probably send a healthy person into an epileptic fit.
Terrible Lie was then delivered with the same intensity that NIN displayed when they used it for years as an opener. More new material, The Line Begins to Blur sounded excellent live. Following this song, the keyboard "riff" from March of the Pigs was played a few times. Trent mentioned something to the effect of, "It's great to be back in Detroit...fuckin' pigs!!!" The crowd then got a thorough ass-kicking by this abrasive, well executed number. Trent appeared to either stage dive or otherwise join the front of the audience towards the end of this song. At the end of MOTP (the "now doesn't it make you feel better, etc") Trent and the band stopped everything and let the crowd finish all of it. Very cool. NIN then dipped into some Fragile material, as The Frail and The Wretched were played, followed by Closer. It was a real treat to hear Burn, which was pulled off well. Gave Up elicited a hell of a reaction from the crowd, even those in seats were bouncing around.

Some of the most awesome, memorable parts of the show followed, in my opinion. The translucent, mesh curtain was raised and video was projected onto it from somewhere in the middle of the floor. As the band played Eraser, Right Where It Belongs and Beside you in time, mesmerizing images were projected onto this screen. In somewhat of an order throughout these songs, I recall seeing images of:

-cells growing and multiplying
-stealth bomber, SR-71 Blackbird in mid-air amongst other fighter aircraft
-armaments being deployed from fighter aircraft
-military footage of the war
-impoverished communities
-individuals of wealth enjoying luxuries (i.e. the American Dream)
-George W. Bush
-wildlife action, monkeys, some large type of ape rushing towards a huge gathering of what looked kind of like pelicans...all the birds take off and the ape catches one, killing it
-what sort of looked like T.V. snow/white noise began scrolling vertically, gradually increasing in speed...awesome

This imagery combined with the music, as well as NIN being slightly visible behind the projection screen with their own stage lighting made this part of the show extremely mind-blowing. For me in was like being put in some sort of trance, the show at that point definitely took on a surreal, layered quality. Truly amazing.

The curtain once again dropped and NIN continued with Sin. Only was next, which Trent introduced as "something new". I was really looking forward to hearing this one live, which sounded excellent live. Trent did something different with the first "talking" verse...repeated something over and over, can't exactly pinpoint what it was. Reptile and Suck were played next, which I believe I hadn't heard live before. I think Reptile was played on the Bowie tour, but it was Bowie singing. Hurt was to no surprise, amazing and definitely a highlight of the show. Trent thanked the crowd, opening bands, replacement drummer and said he had two more for us. Those were The Hand That Feeds, followed by the closer, Head Like A Hole. Both songs were full of energy. Head Like A Hole still proved to be a killer when played live. Mad props to the band for demolishing a good amount of equipment by the end of that song. Especially whoever was stage left, nice job on the guitar...completely destroyed it...awesome. I saw a keyboard go sailing across the stage. Trent was a little more friendly, mildly tossing his guitar onto the stage.

That will be a show I remember forever. It's obvious that people worked their asses off to put on a production like that. It was truly an audio/visual/emotional show of art. If you're a NIN fan, this tour is a definite must see. If your not a NIN fan, this tour is a definite must see. Trent and crew really delivered the goods this time around, more so than any as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully they'll make it around once again in the future. Out...

zombielynx21 wrote:The other people I was with didn't like them, but said they had a really good drummer... and they do.

She was really smooth on the drums. No matter how fast or slow she was going, she had a very calm pace to her. I really enjoyed it.

Well I have nothing to add to most of these posts so I'll keep it short. That was my first NIN concert and it was by the far the best concert I have ever seen in my life. I have NEVER been so pumped throughout an entire concert like I was on Saturday. Fucking brilliant is all I have to say about the entire presentation, setlist, and performance. And kudos to the Joe for letting us have beer on the floor.

QOTSA was pretty good, I'm a minor fan of theirs and I liked the way they did their setlist. I saw most of Autolux and I thought they were ok but I do agree that they have something missing. All in all a simply awesome concert.

Also, the Joe garage can suck so we parked at the Cobo roof. The lot was half empty and we really had no waiting on the way in or out. Adds a bit of a walk but it was much better than the Joe garage,

Nothing to add to the above, but I felt I should be yet another person to post saying how awesome it was. I really have no words to describe how I felt, time of my life. Thanks Trent.

Actually, I do have something to add. I noticed near the entrances and such there were posters that said footage of the night's performance could be found at www.myspace.com/nin

I checked it out but didn't find anything, anyone know what's up?

The show last night was great. 3rd time seeing NIN. Once at the palace, once at the congress in chicago and then last night back at the joe. I must say this was the best of the three iv seen. I was so happy when they played eraser and reptile, as they hadnt played either in the past shows i'd seen. they played all the heavy ones, which are a must, and a good variety off the new album. I will never forget the feeling I got during hurt, which I hadnt recieved during the other shows iv seen of them. It was more genuine. I sang the entire song in my gf's ears with my arms wrapped around her. It was a feeling of ecstacy. At the end of the song he was caught up in the moment and it made sense why it sounded so much better this time. Listening to NIN is the reason I stopped abusing substances. Looking forward to, and seeing them live, is so much better than getting high hands down. Every time I see them it's a reminder of why I try so hard for the things I want in life.

thanks you trent for everything you do for us
see you next time you come around.
chris.

p.s. you should keep reptile on the permanant set list

Posted this in Chicago thread as well...this was my 4th show...
1. Grand Rapids, MI - Van Andel Arena - Fragility 2.0
2. Chicago, IL - Congress Theatre - [Live: With Teeth] Small Venues Tour
3. Chicago, IL - Allstate Arena - Live: With_Teeth_2005
4. Detroit, MI - Joe Louis Arena - Live: With_Teeth_2005

The spiral tickets were bad ass (the ACTUAL tickets...silver nin stamp and cool colors). I went to the Chicago and Detroit shows and to my surprise the Detroit show did not sell as well but the crowd was incredible.

Mind you I walked out of the Chicago show and was thinking...no way will tomorrow's show be this good, but WOW the Detroit fans were all about it. Chicago, they killed you during Hurt, it sounded like everyone was singing in the whole place. Incredible. I've seen NIN 4 times now and I've never heard Trent talk this much...he seemed to be really happy with the crowd in Detroit.

I caught a drumstick in Detroit and saw some lucky fan being escorted out with half-of a smashed guiter...couldn't tell if it was Aaron's or Trent's...way to go man...

Detroit show was absolutely amazing. It was my first time seeing as how I was 12 last time they were on tour. I'm already ansy about seeing them again. The whole show just blew me away and being on the floor, in front, right in front of Aaron was amazing. I got some really good pictures that I will post within the next few days.

Over the last 13 years I've seen NIN close to a dozen times and I have to say that the show in Detroit was by far the best show.I couldn't quite figure out what was different at first but after about 4 songs it came to me,Trent was actually happy up there.This might sound cheesy but I felt like the man was almost joyous on stage.I've never seen him like that and I have to say I like it.He reaffirmed that he sure as hell can put on a show.
I was pretty proud of my Motown crowd.I felt like we owned him and he owned us for 90 minutes.The band/crowd connection was in full force.I have never experienced anything like the performance of Hurt at any concert I have been to.It was surreal.I can understand why Trent was caught up in the moment.Everyone was singing every word of the song.
I hope that Trent continues to take care of himself and if he ever doubts if people will care if he makes music again,all he has to do is think of this show and he'll have his answer.

I gotta say that Autolux rock. I would have liked to hear more of them and less QOTSA. There were a bunch of guys right next to us on the floor who were really into Queens and towards the end of their set they got a pretty good circle going. I kind of wanted to see some hecklers but they got a good reception. I was bored after two songs though.

NIN was awesome of course. Everything off With Teeth was great except for BYIT which I thought sounded a little funny. Video footage was excellent, I was in awe at some points, the gun to the Vietnamese women's head seemed to last forever. Jesus fucking christ Reptile just kicks ass. It should never be taken out of the set. I missed it during Fragility so I was hyped to hear it hear. Only and RWIB were other highlights, despite the girl who sang loud as hell throughout RWIB and fucked up the lyrics in about every line. TR seemed to be happy with the crowd and the pit was pretty rough, not as much as last tour but still alot of fun.
I would rate this show slightly behind the three Fragility shows I saw but it was still amazing.

This was my first NIN concert. I've been to many, many concerts, but this one was hands-down the most spectacularly visual show I have ever seen. Also, I know someone posted this before, but there was a real sequence to the songs - energy wise. Can't wait to see more.

I took this and a bunch more... This is from THTF

I forget what song this is... anyone?

shakeitangel wrote:Over the last 13 years I've seen NIN close to a dozen times and I have to say that the show in Detroit was by far the best show.I couldn't quite figure out what was different at first but after about 4 songs it came to me,Trent was actually happy up there.This might sound cheesy but I felt like the man was almost joyous on stage.I've never seen him like that and I have to say I like it.He reaffirmed that he sure as hell can put on a show.

First off, kudos to a fellow long time fan. I'm a pre-Lollapolooza fan (and I always bring it up, even to the point of annoying myself!) and it's nice to know there are more of us out there... It's not anyone else's fault that they were born later or discovered NIN later in life - we just remember hitting up all the record stores in town and discovering stuff like Crunch O Matic before we had the internet to find this stuff out!

About your show comments, I have to agree. I saw both Denver shows during the club tour. On the first night, Trent was very VERY chatty, even more than the Detroit show. He said the Europe dates and Cochella Fest. were a lot of stress on the band (and the CD came out that day too). So he was relieved to finally start the rest of the tour and only have to worry about that. He said that Denver crowd was the best yet. During Hurt, he paused for a moment and soaked in everyone singing along with him. I actually saw him smile during the song. He was cracking jokes during the set and really enjoying himself.

The show was great!

The next night, still in Denver, he had none of that. No talking for the most part. And the show just ROCKED. I think Trent even got a bloody lip that night. It was 100% aggression. While the show was great, I didn't feel the same connection between Trent and the audience as I did the night before.

So, this Detroit show was the best of the two Denver shows all rolled up into one!

If any one is interested I have ~860MB of 640x480 mpegs from the show. Its shakey (very shakey at times) I was in the pit for most of the show but the audio is pretty damn good. I got right where it belongs, beside you in time, eraser, love is not enough, wish , terrible lie, the line begins to blur, the frail, the wretched, burn, gave up (partial), hurt, head like a hole partial and his little speech. I'll probably make a torrent out of it, so is anyone interested?

Heres some caps:

This was my 3rd Nine Inch Nails show.. and my first show in the states. the other shows were:
april 28, 1999 -- Toronto
may 09, 2005 -- Toronto

The audience was louder then any show I have ever been to during "you could have it all my empire of dirt I will let you down I will make you hurt" -- it blew my mind. it was as if everyone in the entire venue was singing at the top of their lungs. I had never heard anything like that in my life before.

The hand that feeds was really really great at this show. The intro for it started with a crazy keyboard synth thing which was cool!

I liked the clapping part in march of the pigs. I think this was the best march of the pigs live so far.

I found "Suck" and "reptile" kind of boring at this show.. but in past shows I really liked them.

This show was also the best time I heard head like a hole.

the sound was the poorest out of all of all 3 shows I have been to... .. where the other 2 shows it sounded incredible.. this one compaired to foo fighters show I saw in the summer. which is still good. My seats were to the side of the stage 12 rows back... so it probably sounded better facing the stage.

"No one knows" by queens was the best queens of the stone age song by far!! . it was really awesome live.. the acapella part was great!

This is the 1st time I followed this tour journal for a tour or a band. And It made the concert experience kinda werid for me because I read way too much about the show before seeing it. I had the set list memorized and everything which was funny. I think I almost expected too much out of the band espescially since last may when I saw nine inch nails that was the best show of my life. Last thursday I was more hyped for this show then any other show I had ever seen in my life.. I couldn't even sleep.

overall I had a great time and this show still ranks on one of the best shows I have been in my life.. .. (i've seen probably 70 shows the last 8 years)

cya in toronto in november!

berlamont, what section were you sitting? Those shots look almost exactly where I was sitting.

I'm going to put the torrent together tonight, I've got a little editing to do for some of the songs where the camera quit recording for a sec and I had to start it again. Like I said though its definatly for those of us that are hardcore fans and don't mind the really shakey video at times. I will post when I finish..

I was standing a little off to the left of the stage, right in the middle of the pit. I have bruises on my arms from some people who apparently man handled me heh. For head like a hole I actually left the floor, cus I was exhausted and got the video from the first row of seats. I actually had some bitch say something like 'enough with the camera already' or some shit like she had any fucking right to tell me to put my camera away. Its not like I was constantly using the flash or some shit, I was just holding it above my head pointing at the stage. When you watch the videos you can kinda get the feeling of what its like to be in the pit heh, especially when beside you in time goes into the really heavy part (god i love that song).

Alright I tried editing the stupid vids to add the smaller clips with the bigger ones and what not, but fucking adobe premiere keeps crashing so fuck it. If someone else wants to rechop these then whatever, atleast the orig files are 640x480 mpeg2 files to play with. Anyways I don't want to hear anyone bitch about how shakey it is, cus I probably said it was shakey 3 times now already. So anyways its at my tracker, which doesn't require registration, so nobody can complain about not having an account.

Also the group of vids is 862MB, it is not practical what so ever to post these any other way than a torrent, so if torrents don't work for ya, sorry man but I can't serve these up any other way. Anyways I'll be watching to make sure people are able to actually connect to me, so if it doesn't start right away just give it some time. And finally I can only upload at 45kb ~ 50kb max, so be patient, if anyone helps to stay on and seed I would greatly appreciate it. Enjoy!

http://www.berlamont.com/ets

A few thoughts on this show:

- I really enjoyed this show
- I went to both Detroit and Cleveland and I liked the Detroit show better
- Great set list, too bad they played the same set at both shows. I guess it's cause the new drummer

I really don't get this whole Spiral thing. If they are gonna do these warm up songs for Spiral members, they should at least give us an idea of when to be there - and not limit the number of people that get in. I paid $60 for what again. I know I get other perks, but when Trent says,"I believe those who do (join) will find it a worthwhile investment as I am not taking this lightly. We have lots of things planned and if I didn't feel it was something that had merit, I wouln't have done it", I expect him to follow through.

It was great being in the front of the pit - Jeordie kept giving these weird long stares towards fans in the crowd. It was a bit eerie.

I've been seeding at a constant 45 kb, and have upload 2.5gb so far. It looks like a couple other seeders are helping out. I've restarted the transfer several times to try and get more people connected, but thats about all I can do. To anybody that does get it, let me know what you think. I'm no pro at bootlegging concerts, so be kind.

Great Show!

I was standing right next to the speakers and at some points I couldn't hear the music because the bass just filled my ears (my fault). Suffering from some minor permanant deafness.

The new drummer impressed me. I was looking forward to watching Jerome play. I love how he is always so solid and in the pocket. Alex did a very good job though.

As far as the setlist, Eraser was my favorite song they played.
+
Burn
Love is not enough (fucking awesome opener)
I was kind of dissapointed that they only played two songs from The Fragile. That's my favorite NIN album. I don't think Trent really likes that album. That's too bad because it's a masterpeice. He didn't seem to into playing The Frail/The Wretched.

The stage show and lighting was too good and caused me to poop in my pants. I was dissapointed I wasn't able to see a Fragility 2.0 show because I missed such a great stage show but the visuals on this tour deffinetely made up for it. Trent is one good, not to mention rich, entertainer.

Some things that I didn't like was Trent's haircut, muscles, and gayness. You know he's crossing the line when he get's the audience to clap to MARCH OF THE PIGS for god sakes. Also, his new body shape makes his voice sound high and gay (perfect for his new pop music). I'm glad that Trent's happy and all but I think it's dulling his artistic direction. Sorry Mr. Reznor

I tried to get a tour member to give Trent a copy of my Fragile story but he wouldn't take it (understandable).

Overall it was a great experience. Can't wait until the next tour (either four years from now or never)

I'll seed it once I get back home... my ex downloaded it for me. I am at Ball State University and we can't use Torrents or any P2P sharing. Thanks for putting this up! I appreciate it.

I went to the concert and it was amazing. I will post a review soon, and post my pictures.

detroit was a pretty good show. one thing i didnt like about detroit was that it smelled really bad, there were juggalos there, and people were eating ecstacy. otherwise, nin was fuckin' sweet as usual.

berlamont wrote:Alright I tried editing the stupid vids to add the smaller clips with the bigger ones and what not, but fucking adobe premiere keeps crashing so fuck it. If someone else wants to rechop these then whatever, atleast the orig files are 640x480 mpeg2 files to play with. Anyways I don't want to hear anyone bitch about how shakey it is, cus I probably said it was shakey 3 times now already. So anyways its at my tracker, which doesn't require registration, so nobody can complain about not having an account.

Also the group of vids is 862MB, it is not practical what so ever to post these any other way than a torrent, so if torrents don't work for ya, sorry man but I can't serve these up any other way. Anyways I'll be watching to make sure people are able to actually connect to me, so if it doesn't start right away just give it some time. And finally I can only upload at 45kb ~ 50kb max, so be patient, if anyone helps to stay on and seed I would greatly appreciate it. Enjoy!

http://www.berlamont.com/ets

That's my sorry ass getting pulled out during that first clip of 'Gave Up', lol. Thanks for the clips Berlamont!

I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but 2 interesting things that happened at this show are:

1. Trent jumped off the stage and went down to the crowd towards the end of March of the Pigs. He got mobbed by the fans in the front row of the pit, they were grabbing on to him and grabbing his head. Security had to pull the fans off of him. Because of this most of the "all the pigs are all lined up" lines were not sung (sang?).

2. Trent did a lot of "Thank You's" towards the end of the show. He started off by saying that he doesn't usually talk during shows because he doesn't like to talk during shows. He then went on to thank Alex Carapetis, Autolux, Queens of the Stone Age, (maybe some others), and then he said I've got a list let me pull it out. He reached for his back pocket and then just turned away and the band went on to the next song.

Just trying to preserve the show. Happy memories!

Ja$on wrote:detroit was a pretty good show. one thing i didnt like about detroit was that it smelled really bad, there were juggalos there, and people were eating ecstacy. otherwise, nin was fuckin' sweet as usual.

haha I was thinking when I read this post, man this person is right on what I thought about the crowd, then I realized it was you.

trent couldn't of looked HOTTER!

Decaying Voice wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but 2 interesting things that happened at this show are:

1. Trent jumped off the stage and went down to the crowd towards the end of March of the Pigs. He got mobbed by the fans in the front row of the pit, they were grabbing on to him and grabbing his head. Security had to pull the fans off of him. Because of this most of the "all the pigs are all lined up" lines were not sung (sang?).

2. Trent did a lot of "Thank You's" towards the end of the show. He started off by saying that he doesn't usually talk during shows because he doesn't like to talk during shows. He then went on to thank Alex Carapetis, Autolux, Queens of the Stone Age, (maybe some others), and then he said I've got a list let me pull it out. He reached for his back pocket and then just turned away and the band went on to the next song.

Just trying to preserve the show. Happy memories!

I was front row stage right and I don't ever remember seeing Trent get off the stage.

spentsnighing wrote:

Decaying Voice wrote:I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but 2 interesting things that happened at this show are:

1. Trent jumped off the stage and went down to the crowd towards the end of March of the Pigs. He got mobbed by the fans in the front row of the pit, they were grabbing on to him and grabbing his head. Security had to pull the fans off of him. Because of this most of the "all the pigs are all lined up" lines were not sung (sang?).

2. Trent did a lot of "Thank You's" towards the end of the show. He started off by saying that he doesn't usually talk during shows because he doesn't like to talk during shows. He then went on to thank Alex Carapetis, Autolux, Queens of the Stone Age, (maybe some others), and then he said I've got a list let me pull it out. He reached for his back pocket and then just turned away and the band went on to the next song.

Just trying to preserve the show. Happy memories!

I was front row stage right and I don't ever remember seeing Trent get off the stage.

ahah really cause my ass was way in the back and I remember that.