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2005/12/06 - Santa Cruz, CA [Santa Cruz Civic Center]

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2005-12-06 Show date
Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium Venue
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2005/12/06 - Santa Cruz, CA [Santa Cruz Civic Center]
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Master ad Vitam
update from the venue:::


Trentsinmypants: Im at the venue. Super small and alex is no longer the drummer
me: who's drumming? josh?
Trentsinmypants: Josh from apc is drumming 2nite
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Through the power of the intraweb--and camera phones--I bring you pictures already.

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The Frail?
Aaron
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Bricklayer
What an awesome show, that was fucking intense. And they played Eraser!!!! Ears... so.. numb.... Great job Trent, that was truly amazing. The rendition of Burn tonight was top notch, as well as just about everything else.
Bricklayer
Great show tonight. I didn't notice any significant changes from their previous setlists. As TIIMPs already mentioned, Josh Freese was announced by Trent as their new drummer.

Autolux went on promptly at 8pm and played until just after 8.30.

NIN came on at about 9.10 and led in with Pinion. They closed the show with HLAH as usual.

Fantastic show in a super tiny venue. Seemed like a high school basketball gym. Maybe a little bit smaller than the UC Davis show earlier this year.

I got to the venue at about 7.20 since I had to drive down from SF after work, so I don't know about the Spiral members getting in for soundcheck, but I didn't get the impression that they did.

-k
Grand Pontiff
Great show tonight. Josh did a fine job. Trent announced that he's the "new 'official' drummer". Gives the impression that he'll be playing the rest of the tour, but who knows?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this may have been the first show ever to have Eraser played without a curtain.

Pinion
Love is Not Enough
You Know What You Are
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins to Blur
March of the Pigs
Something I Can Never Have
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Wish
Only
Deep
Suck
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Starfuckers
Head Like a Hole
Master Traveler
It was a 'gutsy' performance, I would say.

The band was tired from their return from SA, which Trent mentioned... and it showed a bit... plus they had to resync with josh plugged in again back there... admirable but not flawless in his return...

Yep - 'gutsy' - I'll go with 'gutsy'.

The crowd was quite rambunctious for a dry venue.
But I missed the screen/video, the 'upside-down-bar-graph' lighting from the arena tour, and the band's energy (compared to Oakland at least).
Master ad Vitam
All I have to say is JOSH F'N FREESE!!!!

OK, well maybe I'll say more. Stage set-up was the same as the club tour with the LED lights in the back, etc. And yeah, my high school gym was bigger than that place. We were literally on the basketball court, lol. Anyway, the band was great and the crowd was great, though both were better at Oakland show, in my opinion. But the place went pretty nutty when Trent introduced Josh as the "new official drummer". Brandi from the Spiral actually told us about Josh when she was handing out the tickets, so we knew beforehand. That, and the fact that he walked right by everyone about 10 minutes after she told us, lol. Oh, and no soundcheck. Everything seemed to be running late and Brandi kind of warned us that it might not happen. Setlist above is correct. OK, time for bed.
Bricklayer
I agree with everything said above. Great show. Maybe not as much energy as other shows, but still blows other bands out of the water and a better way to spend a Tuesday night than anything else I can think of. Had fun seeing familiar faces from the Oakland show and saying hi, although I didn't hang out in the Spiral line. Debated whether to try to make it into any soundcheck and went instead for a walk down on the beach at sunset (cue cheesy music -- although my soundtrack was Sunspots).

I'm so sad that this is the end of my own personal NIN tour (six shows this year) for the foreseeable future -- I don't think I'll hit any of the midwest shows. Here's hoping some west coast shows get added!

OK, so what's the word on Alex?? Why the change?
Does anyone happen to know what song was played immediately following the show last night? Basically right after Head Like a Hole, when NIN left the stage.
Definitely not as great as Oakland, but a good show none the less.

While there was plenty of energy in the crowd, it didn't seem as if people were participating as much. The Oakland crowd was much more responsive to band cues (overhead clapping, filling in lyrics). The smaller venue certainly helped amplify the crowd movement though. I was near the front middle for the first half and had a lot of fun until my girlfriend and I decided to work our way out and get some air. I guess my friend got smacked in the back of the head by two guys who were fighting, but he said others in the crowd helped him up quickly.

I wanted to hit 2 people there though. That first damn crowd surfer who stayed up way too long. He kept trying to stand up on top of people... Then there was the asshole who threw a bottle at Jeordie's head while he was leaning on the mic. It wasn't just a random toss onto the stage, this dick aimed right for Jeordie and was disappointed when he missed. I was just a little too far back to reach in and smack that guy up the head.

Otherwise I had a lot of fun. One of my friends snagged a drumstick (conveniently labeled as "Josh Freese's"), we all got nice and sweaty, and I enjoyed seeing some new songs (compared to my first show at Oakland).
Master of the Ninth Arch
I thought the show was really good. I was surprised by how small the venue is, it was like NIN playing in my highschool gym. Josh did a great job, not flawless, but strong. I spoke to Trent briefly before the show, he seemed to be in good spirits, but tried as he mentioned. And I would just like to say to the assdick crowd surfer that had to be pulled out by security, taking some of my hair with him, I hope my little sister punching you in the balls renders you limp for life.
Master Traveler
thekj wrote:Does anyone happen to know what song was played immediately following the show last night? Basically right after Head Like a Hole, when NIN left the stage.
It was Movement by LCD Soundsystem.
hardchord wrote:
thekj wrote:Does anyone happen to know what song was played immediately following the show last night? Basically right after Head Like a Hole, when NIN left the stage.
It was Movement by LCD Soundsystem.

YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!! made my day. CHEERS!
Master ad Vitam
sfalleycat wrote:OK, so what's the word on Alex?? Why the change?
Not sure, but Brandi was like "Ummm, he's not in the band anymore. Trent let him go."

My rumor-starting theory (which is not confirmed by anyone): we all know Trent is trying to work on the new album while on this leg of the tour (well, not this 4-show tour, but the next leg starting in January). If he's going to be on the road, working on the album, he'll need all the pieces with him. He can't just go out and have Dave Grohl stop by every now and then when he needs help with drumming. Therefore, he hired the best guy out there and now he not only has his "live" drummer, but also his "studio" drummer all wrapped up in one. And a pretty kick-ass one at that! [/rumors]

One more thing: when I saw Josh, he didn't have his super-secret NIN-signaling device on his wrist like meathead had shown in his cartoon. WTF? Did he upgrade to something smaller? Meathead, we need you to find out! (preferrably in flash cartoon form, lol)
hardchord wrote:
thekj wrote:Does anyone happen to know what song was played immediately following the show last night? Basically right after Head Like a Hole, when NIN left the stage.
It was Movement by LCD Soundsystem.


HMMMMM, are you sure. i just got the track, doesn't sound right. remix?
Master Traveler
thekj wrote: HMMMMM, are you sure. i just got the track, doesn't sound right. remix?
Absolutely positively sure.
Was singing it with a friend on the way out.

The 'guitar' part you might be remembering kicks in at 1:12 - I could see starting from the beginning how it might not sound the same as the song you remembered.
hardchord wrote:
thekj wrote: HMMMMM, are you sure. i just got the track, doesn't sound right. remix?
Absolutely positively sure.
Was singing it with a friend on the way out.

The 'guitar' part you might be remembering kicks in at 1:12 - I could see starting from the beginning how it might not sound the same as the song you remembered.

ok, i had to turn up my headphones at work to finally get it. thanks again.
for some reason, work speakers just don't do this song justice. ha ha.
Master Traveler
thekj wrote:ok, i had to turn up my headphones at work to finally get it. thanks again.
for some reason, work speakers just don't do this song justice. ha ha.
No problem - it does sound better louder.
I recommend the whole album by the way.

Funnily enough - I first heard LCD Soundsystem playing before the concert in Davis in March. Then Trent answered a fan email on the question of what they pipe out before and after the shows (he mentioned LCD Soundsystem, MIA and others) - and I tracked it down.

So - if you get into LCD at all - we both have a NIN show to thank for it.
Bricklayer
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wow, big surprise with the setlist there....im so glad i'm not playing the same shit over and over, night after night anymore....
hardchord wrote:
thekj wrote:ok, i had to turn up my headphones at work to finally get it. thanks again.
for some reason, work speakers just don't do this song justice. ha ha.
No problem - it does sound better louder.
I recommend the whole album by the way.

Funnily enough - I first heard LCD Soundsystem playing before the concert in Davis in March. Then Trent answered a fan email on the question of what they pipe out before and after the shows (he mentioned LCD Soundsystem, MIA and others) - and I tracked it down.

So - if you get into LCD at all - we both have a NIN show to thank for it.
Funny you say that, a buddy and i were at the Davis show and LCD came on and I was floored by them. But I never did check them out after the show.
I remember Trent mentioning them and MIA on one of his posts.
I think the guy from LCD wanted to do a remix for Trent too.
Now I wish I hadn't missed the OAK show.
jerome_dillon wrote:wow, big surprise with the setlist there....im so glad i'm not playing the same shit over and over, night after night anymore....
is this actually jerome dillon? and if so, i can see where you are coming from, but then again, from a fan's perspective there are certain songs that we want to hear, and would be dissapointed if we didnt hear them. although there could possibly be a catalog of songs that the band could work in and out of shows, these songs would be ones that are not deemed by trent as essential scores that need to be included to put on a quality show for every fan in attendance.
Master Traveler
Anonymous wrote:
jerome_dillon wrote:wow, big surprise with the setlist there....im so glad i'm not playing the same shit over and over, night after night anymore....
is this actually jerome dillon? and if so, i can see where you are coming from, but then again, from a fan's perspective there are certain songs that we want to hear, and would be dissapointed if we didnt hear them. although there could possibly be a catalog of songs that the band could work in and out of shows, these songs would be ones that are not deemed by trent as essential scores that need to be included to put on a quality show for every fan in attendance.
Agree with both of you. I think they 'try' (or intend) to do this - but I think that the technology involved with clicktracks, programming, lighting etc limits their flexibility. Plus the drummer churn really has to affect the bands willingness to 'try something new'. My guess is that forays into alternate material require that the band feels that they have the 'core' songs down pat, and that they have the energy to give it a go. New drummers and jaunts to South America probably inhibits each of those requirements respectively.
Grand Pontiff
I just got back home...It was great seeing the band in a small venue, again. However, it wasn't nearly as small as U.C. Davis. Nonetheless, not much bigger than a H.S. gym. It was a nice change of pace to see the band perform Eraser, without the screen. Also, interesting to see the performance change, with stripped-down light-show, etc. Overall, the energy was good...It was surprising seeing Josh Freese on drums; but, obviously, he did a great job. Definitely an enjoyable show...My only complaint: Waaayyy too many "noodle dancers." At one point, I had to move--my initial place, on the floor, was beginning to feel like a Dave fucking Matthews concert...Oh well, not surprising for Santa Cruz...
Bricklayer
If Trent is god then maybe he would be capable of adding some F-ing new songs to the setlist. Throw us a bone every once in a while. What they played was great, but this was one of the shortest setlists yet. Don't tell me Josh Freese needs to practice more, he was spot on and has probably been practicing since the Hollywood Bowl show. (Not like he needs to practice anyways.) Hopefully Trent will keep him around for a while. No Sweeny to be seen. There is apparently no job security when working for Trent.

No soundcheck, no meet and greet. Did see the band minus Trent casually walk up and go into the venue. Apparently Trent left right after the show, so waiting 2 hours in the cold was worthless other then getting a guitar pic from a roadie that finally leveled with the few people left waiting. There are 4 tour buses so if you don't see 4 that means Trent has left already.

The stage was exactly the same, nothing new. Aaron while he was not concentrating on playing looked pretty bored. Jordie got into it every once in a while. Josh was great. I could not see Alessandro well so I am not sure what he was doing most of the show. Trent was rocking but I did hear him cough once so maybe he was under the weather, saying he was still in a different time zone when the South American shows were 5 days ago. WTF At least he said Thank you a few times. Playing less than 2 hour shows a night must be draining. It was a good show but it could have been so much better.

Autolux was cool, got to hear some of their soundcheck while waiting to be let in. If you don't have their CD get it.

Better luck to the people going to the SLO and Reno shows, maybe you will get some new songs but it does not look hopeful.

Trentsinmypants and Rectalbarometer it was great seeing you guys again. Good luck driving to Reno, hope the roads are clear for you and I will probably see you next year at some of the California shows if any are ever anounced.

Erased. Over. Out.
Grand Pontiff
ModifiedAngel wrote:Trent was rocking but I did hear him cough once so maybe he was under the weather, saying he was still in a different time zone when the South American shows were 5 days ago.
He might have a cold. I heard the coughing too and he sounded a bit stuffy when he talked. You couldn't tell otherwise, by the way he sang and performed.

One of the really cool things I experienced at the show last night..... I was seated in the top row opposite the stage..... by leaning my head back into the wall of the auditorium, the bass of the songs reverberated in my head. A LOT. And if I closed my mouth just slightly, my teeth would chatter along to the bass. Probably the neatest one was The Line Begins To Blur, since the bass is so strong and separated by gaps. My vision began to blur.
Master Traveler
hardchord wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jerome_dillon wrote:wow, big surprise with the setlist there....im so glad i'm not playing the same shit over and over, night after night anymore....
is this actually jerome dillon? and if so, i can see where you are coming from, but then again, from a fan's perspective there are certain songs that we want to hear, and would be dissapointed if we didnt hear them. although there could possibly be a catalog of songs that the band could work in and out of shows, these songs would be ones that are not deemed by trent as essential scores that need to be included to put on a quality show for every fan in attendance.
Agree with both of you. I think they 'try' (or intend) to do this - but I think that the technology involved with clicktracks, programming, lighting etc limits their flexibility. Plus the drummer churn really has to affect the bands willingness to 'try something new'. My guess is that forays into alternate material require that the band feels that they have the 'core' songs down pat, and that they have the energy to give it a go. New drummers and jaunts to South America probably inhibits each of those requirements respectively.
It is not Jerome Dillon. JD.net verified that it is not him. Its someone with too much time on his/her hands.
Master of the Ninth Arch
The Good:


I've been to one show on each segment of the U.S. tour - and haven't been dissapointed yet. Each one has it's own vibe, different openers, different crowd, different venue size, and yes, even some differences in the set-list, both in what songs are played, and how they are played.

Trent did say something to the effect that the stage-show was going to grow and evolve - and it has.

I think a lot of the criticisms are coming from people who want to hear only the songs they like, played the way they know them. Or, they've been to too many shows and it's all blending together to the point where it all sounds the same now.

If you're going to compare to Oakland:
- that probably was a better overall show: the crowd was very interactive, singing along through the entire set - and they actually sang well (melody, tune, and soft/loudness); the crowd seemed to have more energy; the people in the crowd were much nicer in general; the band had a lot of energy, and the set was tight; it was also the longest set-list I remember this year
- in S. Cruz: the band did seem a little tired, and there were some mistakes; the crowd was less into the show -it seemed like a much younger/college-kid show; they didn't seem to know the older or soundtrack songs; and they weren't as friendly as the people on the floor at the other three shows I've been to (but they'd be your friend if you had pot)

Those differences stand out only because it's only been two weeks.
You have to cut them some slack for the jet-lag - Trent did say they were tired, but he still put a lot of energy into the songs, and I think the "coughing" was either due to the over-active fog machines, or it was a joke going back to that "cough"/"sob" bit during the San Diego show, Jeordie is Jeordie, Aaron didn't look any more lackluster to me than he did at the first Reno show, I only got a few glimpses of Josh but the drumming sounded good and the crowd did give him a good cheer when he was announced as the new drummer, and I couldn't see Alessandro at all this time.
I also noticed people on the crew that didn't look familiar from the other shows - and I think these 3 shows may be in part for training a new crew - that's just speculation, but it may have some effect on technical issues.


The Bad:
ekard wrote:I wanted to hit 2 people there though. That first damn crowd surfer who stayed up way too long. He kept trying to stand up on top of people... ).
Misery wrote: And I would just like to say to the assdick crowd surfer that had to be pulled out by security, taking some of my hair with him, I hope my little sister punching you in the balls renders you limp for life.
I'm usually not one to bitch, since I know exactly what I'm getting myself into - but that crowdsurfer with the yellow mohawk was a real fucking tool.

The first time he fell (in front of Aaron) - he went down the back of my neck, and decided that grabbing the top of my head, and bearing down with all of his weight was a great way to break his fall.

OW! ....fucktard.

Misery - thank your little sister for me. Really. I hope she hits hard.



The Ugly:

Those "noodle dancers" towards the back were really creeping out my sister too. She described it as somewhere between 1980's Bondage-a-Go-Go goth dancing and white trash strip-tease/Coyote Ugly pole dancing - but they were all male.

And there were some "interesting" outfits.

As was said before: it IS Santa Cruz.
Master ad Vitam
I punched that dickless fuck with the mohawk in the head on his way out. hahaha
Bricklayer
violent_n_delicious wrote:I punched that dickless fuck with the mohawk in the head on his way out. hahaha
YAY! I like you! That fuckin prick nearly crippled me and kicked my boyfriend in the head. Thanks for doin us all a favor. I have mied feelings on crowdsurfers....there is a way to do it and then there is a way to get you motherfuckin ass beat. If they are passed out, then I am not going to punch them, but if they are over 200 pounds or a guy, then they are getting hurt by me.
From the Santa Cruz Sentinel:

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Nine Inch Nails illuminated the Civic with arena-sized light and sound

By Sarah Quelland

SENTINEL STAFF WRITER


Nine Inch Nails mastermind Trent Reznor didn't speak much over the course of the band's 90-minute, 20-plus song set at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Tuesday night, but he did pause to tell the sold-out crowd that it was witnessing the group's first official night with new drummer Josh Freese, a professional studio and touring player most famous for his work with the Vandals and A Perfect Circle. His drumming style added a new dimension to NIN's material that was most pronounced on "Something I Can Never Have" and "Star******s, Inc."

Touring since March in support of "With Teeth," the months on the road only seem to have invigorated the band, and the power of its live show has grown since the early stages of the tour. While the band generally plays much larger venues like the Oakland Arena, where it performed just last month, the 2,000-capacity Civic Auditorium was selected as part of a handful of special smaller venue dates that included San Luis Obispo and Reno, Nev.

Using simple but effective lighting as the only prop, the band first appeared backlit by yellow lights that split like the sun's rays shining out from the stage and into the crowd. The sound was tremendous — at times reverberating from floor to ceiling — but clean and clear, and the songs were given the live treatment, deviating from and expanding on the original recordings.

The band opened with the instrumental "Pinion" and quickly launched into new songs "Love Is Not Enough" and "You Know What You Are?" before jumping back in time to "Terrible Lie," from 1989's industrial-pop landmark "Pretty Hate Machine."

Dressed in black, frontman Reznor looked meaty with his dark hair cropped close to his scalp. But despite his muscular build, he expressed his vulnerability as fearlessly as his rage, and he made his oldest wounds sound as fresh and raw as they did more than 15 years ago.

Bathed in violet light, he ran his hands over his head and crossed his arms protectively across his chest during the wistful "Something I Can Never Have," while Freese's intuitive drumming enhanced the palpable lament and desperate desire in the song. At times, Reznor's voice was barely more than a whisper and each breath he took was audibly betrayed by the mic until the song's powerful climax.

Coming from a bright foggy blue stage, the forbidding notes of instrumental "The Frail" loomed dark and ominous as they fell into "The Wretched," both from 1999's "The Fragile." Later red lights heated up a sped-up version of NIN's unintentional mid-'90s club hit, "Closer."

Whether illuminating or obscuring the band, the lighting played a key role in the show. Filtering through the shadows, its eerie glow was a constant presence that made the stage seem vast and the musicians larger than life.

Throughout the night, the band played a sound mix of old and new material including selections from "Broken" ("Gave Up," "Suck"), "The Downward Spiral" ("March of the Pigs," "Eraser") and soundtrack exclusives like "Burn" ("Natural Born Killers") and "Deep" ("Tomb Raider").

After "Wish," which had fists pumping, an animated Reznor yelled "Heck yes! Thank you very much!" He seemed in similarly bright spirits during the conversational, confessional new song "Only," which serves as a sort of vague companion piece to 1989's "Down In It."

Perhaps the most-anticipated song of the night was "Hurt," a wrenching song full of pain and loneliness made famous twice over since the late Johnny Cash's revered rendition of the song. A single spotlight shone down on a solitary Reznor who was lit from beneath, leaving his face dark and his form just a mourning silhouette on the stage. Lighters flickered and the crowd sang along getting louder and stronger with every verse.

Again, as he had repeatedly throughout the night, Reznor graciously thanked the crowd. "Thank you for coming out to see us tonight," he said warmly.

Drenched in sweat and nearing the end of the show, still he showed no signs of slowing down. A raging "The Hand that Feeds" and a scathing "Star******s, Inc." stoked the energy levels before the night closed with "Head Like a Hole."

Copyright © Santa Cruz Sentinel. All rights reserved.

For more online stories from the Santa Cruz Sentinel visit:
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com

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Knight of the Royal Axe
guest_guest wrote:From the Santa Cruz Sentinel:


After "Wish," which had fists pumping, an animated Reznor yelled "[s]Heck[/s] Fuck yah! Thank you very much!" He seemed in similarly bright spirits during the conversational, confessional new song "Only," which serves as a sort of vague companion piece to 1989's "Down In It."
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*edit* oh, and did anyone else catch that girl buying 13 copies of the litho? hmm...i wonder where those are going.....too bad for her cuz when reno was done, they still had like 100+ lithos left over. lol
Grand Pontiff
TR: "Heck yes!"

I knew the Sentinel must've changed one of his words for their article.

Alessandro: What are we gonna play tonight, Trent?
TR: Whatever I feel like I wanna play. Gosh!
Knight of the Royal Axe
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Master of the Ninth Arch
i would kill for audio of this. it was my first NIN show