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2005/03/24 - Reno, NV [Reno Hilton Showroom]

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2005-03-24 Show date
Reno Hilton Showroom Venue
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2005/03/24 - Reno, NV [Reno Hilton Showroom]
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Master Traveler
I don't have time to post my full review of the show, but here are a few tidbits. We drove up from Fresno right after last night's show and crashed at the Hilton (we are staying here tonight too so if there are any ETS people online that want to meet up- give a shout!).

The line for the show stretched well across the whole of the Hilton main floor and right to the main valet/check-in doors. Before the show, Leo was lurking around but never got rushed by anyone that recognized him.

The set opened up with the same WT track but from there deviated completely. 'Reptile' was played which was an awesome surprise. They fucked up 'Starfuckers, Inc.' pretty badly and Trent laughed, "This is only our second show..." The show ended at 10:30pm (same length as last night's). Also the lighting changed dramatically for a few tracks (notably 'Head Like a Hole').

The opening "band" was just as terrible as last night's performance- but at least she said her name, Kara Halloway (not sure on spelling). Her performance was more open mic situated and just did not carry well with the audience, the venue, or even the tech.

Overall, the sound at the Hilton was much better than that of Fresno. Fresno's hall was was very tight and suffered badly from decay. The Hilton hall was very wide open, spacious, and surrounded by soft walls and curtains making for a much fuller, deeper sound overall. It was still extremely fucking loud.

Unlike Fresno, there was also a pit with quite a bit of moshing and even a little crowd surfing.

Oh, and those "limited lithos" that were sold last night were available again tonight (still limited to 125 though but they were the exact same artwork). Other merch was identical as well.

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Bricklayer
Great fucking show,
setlist:

love is not enough
march of the pigs
reptile
piggy
terrible lie
the collector
with teeth
closer
home
burn
no, you don't
even deeper
the line begins to blur
suck
wish
hurt
the hand that feeds
starfuckers
head like a hole
Master of the Ninth Arch
incredible. IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE!

*edit* Aaron definitely is a wild motherfucker and he's quickly surpassing Robin... but he hasn't made it into the crowd yet.

anyway, i'm sure someone else has a more defined setlist. they started around 9p and ended with HLAH @ 10:30ish. looking at the Fresno setlist, we got *edit* "Reptile", "Suck" & "No You Don't"... possibly some new songs, but i'm [with_teeth] disabled at the moment.

Closer is just amazing with "the only time/down in it?" interlude. Someone fucked up during Starfuckers, Inc. and TR let loose with grin. otherwise, the lighting effects were a lot of background colors and strobes - which definitely accents the smash & destroy nature of this tour.

i saw someone in the pit with stereo microphones, but he was getting thrashed about a little bit. hopefully his recording will turn out okay. and now i'm going to get a shower.
oh my gOD!!@@ trent is diffinitly back?!!@@! i will see if my camera develops and post pictures tomorrw, good god hit was the greatest fucking think ever.
sorry i think i'm alittle wired still. anyways, his new shit rocked the venue and i can not wait for it. anyways it rocked, 10 out of 10, don't what those fresno guys were thinking, and the girl was alright, give her credit for getting up there.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Fresno was good, but this was another plane of existence. It was unfuckingbelieveably great.

A lot of it may have to do with where my friend & I were - just one or two people back from the barrier, in front of Jeordie.

The sound seemed much better, Trent's vocals came through well, except on TLBTB. It also seemed like he had more energy than last night, but again, maybe that was just because I had a better view.

It was pretty intense up front, a bunch of people got pulled out over the barrier; several girls looked like they were half passed out. I needed to drink about a gallon of water after the show.

I'm pretty sure the setlist posted above is correct.

It should be interesting tomorrow with no seats at all, and a college crowd...(The Hilton had a bunch of lounge type seating, with just the small pit area up front.)
Master of the Ninth Arch
yeah, this was an odd set-up for a GA show. i thought the floor area where the pit was would have been larger. now, i kinda wish i could hit the Davis show... that should just be insane.
Bricklayer
I just wanted to say that they sound checked "The Wretched" and that they were filming everyone going into the show, and leaving at the end. Can't wait for the eventual DVD! Great energy, just wish Trent would've started in with the water throwing sooner, I was dying in there! Oh and also during "Terrible Lie" Trent was singing face to face with the front row, and actually handed the mic over to some kid who finished the song (screaming Terrible Lie over and over).
Master Traveler
Well, fuck me running. I'm too worked oer for a real reivew.

I've seen NIN 5 times now, and this was the best. Burn? Woah...

And... i met Jeordie White. I was stoked. Nice guy, self-effacing and polite. Maybe more tomorrow.
G'night.
Master of the Ninth Arch
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yes suckers I met trent today, i shook his hot little hand too!

so we got to the hilton around 9:45am. There were about 10 kids there in line ahead of us. Around 11am some of the kids in front of us went running really fast toward the elevators, we kind of ignored them, but I was still curious as to why they took off so quickly. Pretty soon (a good 20 mins) a chick came back showing off TRENT'S autograph to people, she said that they were getting off the elevator looking for somewhere to eat. So we went to go get the fixed CD we happened to have in the car and on the way out the doors, I see this huddled mass of black moving toward johnny rockets. it was Trent, jeordie, aaron and leo. thats when things started to seem surreal, I pulled Aaron(esoterroist) by the hand and moved toward them. leo turned around and gave us a dirty look as we approached. I moved straight over to trent, feeling light-headed and feeling like vomiting on him, I extended my hand out to Trent, couldn't speak, couldn't even begin to form a sentance. He shook my hand, then Aaron, (esoterroist) who had turned as pale as a ghost, shook his hand as well. then TRENT said, "we're trying to grab something to eat, please don't tell anyone" I told him we wanted his autograph. he said "do you have anything to write with?" (that would be helpful wouldn't it) so we ran like little school children to the car to get the fixed cd and ran back in a daze to locate them again. By this time they had taken a booth in the back of johnny rockets, we approached the booth feeling somewhat akward. I said something like "sorry for bothering you guys again....would you sign this?" I studied his face the entire time he was signing it.
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After he had finished we said thank you and told them we couldn't wait to see them play and we walked away. I went back and squealed like a fucking kid. Aaron just kept saying "OH my GOD, Oh my GOD". A few of the other kids that met them, including a cute little pink-haired girl looked equally as "shocked" and as if they might faint. So we went back to standing in line, we were all standing up waiting for them to get through eating so we could see them again (we wanted more), then I remembered that I had my digital camera with me! So I got the camera out and prepared to take their picture. After about 30 mins we saw some other kids going toward the restaurant, so we headed over. They were walking out from the restaurant. After some other kids in front of us took pictures, they started to walk away. I followed camera in hand. I asked them "would you mind if I took a picture of you guys?" That Leo guy said "we really gotta get going, here you want me to take it?" I handed him the camera and he snapped me, trent and jeordie. FUCKING AMAZING.
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so that was the excitement for the morning, we went back to standing in line for 9 more hours.
They let us all in around 7pm. We were right at the front of the line which started with like 10-15 kids in front of us, but it grew to like 20-30, from all the COCK-SUCKERS letting their friends, who just got there, in line. we still got front row, right in between Trent and Aaron. Close enough to see Trent's sweat beads. After the horrible opening act (which memeber of the band's dick did she suck?) was over. They started playing around 9pm. We saw Rob Sheridan with his camera filming the crowd in the beginning. and filming parts of the show. The track list:
love is not enough
march of the pigs
reptile (My absolute favorite song by them, I actually regreted not asking them to play this after I met them, BUT they did anyways, because Trent loves me.)
piggy
terrible lie (fucking awesome)
the collector
with teeth (REALLY REALLY good song, he played a little blue tamborine!)
closer
home
burn (wow)
no, you don't
even deeper
the line begins to blur (this song is REALLY amazing)
suck
wish
hurt
the hand that feeds (sounded sooooo good live, he made eye contact with me during this song, I'd like to think he recognized me)
starfuckers (Trent laughed at jeordie during this song, I think that jeordie fucked up a part or something)
head like a hole
aaron north was jumping around all crazy the whole show, he kicked the amp off the stage at the end.
no encore. After the show I kept asking this MORON security to reach up and grab me jerome's drum stick that was laying on the stage. he's like "i can't my boss is watching" WAHHHH! so we waited, then leo came by and threw it into the crowd, my tall amazing boyfriend reached up and fucking grabbed it right away from all the greedy little hands. I didn't realize that he had it until I saw his hands around it in front of me. he then yelled "don't touch it or i'll kill you with it!" it was great.
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we exited the venue after begging for some guitar picks for awhile (greedy fucking fans)

BEST FUCKING SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!

2 concert tickets = $90.00
With Teeth hooded sweatshirt = $50.00
Lithograph tour poster = $20.00
Meeting God = Priceless
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Master of the Ninth Arch
FullmetalAlchemist wrote:Jeordie definitely is a wild motherfucker and he's quickly surpassing Robin... but he hasn't made it into the crowd yet
Just a small correction... Jeordie is primarily the bassist and barely moves. You're thinking of Aaron North.
Bricklayer
Great, great show.
Stood stage right on barrier.
Other reviews can cover better than I can...
so I'll leave it to them.

All I can add is my opinion. That when they played "The Hand That Feeds", to me, the song's somewhat 'direct' approach made more sense. It is a 'band' song. It was one of the best. What I mean by 'direct' approach is the song doesn't have his bizzare and dynamic sonic of his work of late. Not that the song is bad, just the opposite, it rocked!

I can add one afformation of the guitarist's craziness. Man, that guy was a tornado.

I'm still buzzing and it's 10am the next morning.
Master Traveler
I still can't get over how well Burn works live. The way it builds up, it was just incredible.

As far as Jeordie, he was great, but very stationary. I'm used to him moving around A LOT with MM. Oh well, Aaron North more than made up for that. Wow.

This is the 5th time i've seen NIN live, and this was also the best. Truly Amazing.
y'all can 'sodomize' the opening act all ya like, but she had some chords and belted it for longer than many could've with NO BACKUP. so shut the fuck up, unless you're willing to step up. Nice shadows behind, it looked like she had horns!

and TRENT.

ah, trent.

I'm so pleased that he's still so angry. I bet his sweat is even bitter(sweet).

they blew me fucking away.
Bricklayer
Esoterrorist wrote: BEST FUCKING SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!

2 concert tickets = $90.00
With Teeth hooded sweatshirt = $50.00
Lithograph tour poster = $20.00
Meeting God = Priceless
hey this is the guy that was next to you during the concert last night, i just saw you on here and thought id say whats up...
:D
Hello...who caught exactly what he said before playing hurt? Wasnt it something like it wasnt his song anymore?? Ref to J.Cash possibly??

I wasnt in front...hard to hear sometimes...hey..I am six months preggers...cut me a break :grin:
MsSelfDestruct wrote::D
Hello...who caught exactly what he said before playing hurt? Wasnt it something like it wasnt his song anymore?? Ref to J.Cash possibly??

I wasnt in front...hard to hear sometimes...hey..I am six months preggers...cut me a break :grin:
He said, "I'm playing a song that isn't mine anymore."

God what a terrific show. Trent gets better with age and I loved the new stuff.
Bricklayer
MsSelfDestruct wrote::D
Hello...who caught exactly what he said before playing hurt? Wasnt it something like it wasnt his song anymore?? Ref to J.Cash possibly??
"Can you turn some lights on so I can fucking see, please... I'm going to play a song that's not mine anymore."

What I want to know is what was that instrument he was plucking at the end of piggy before throwing it at the mic.
Master Traveler
I believe he said "I'm gonna play a song that isn't mine anymore" I loved the way he performed the song without much accopaniment until the final chorus. The highlight for me was 'Reptile. I really enjoyed all of the old stuff, it'll take a while to get used to the new stuff (when the album comes out). Like many others, I was lucky enough to meet Trent and most of the gang (I didn't meet Aaron, but he walked past me a couple of times in the bar), but I didn't get pictures or autographs. I didn't want to hound them. I told Trent I was looking forward to the show and he said he was too.. Then I ran to my room to drop off my bag before heading down for something to eat and as I was walking out of my room, Alessandro was walking out of his across the hall and one door down from me. I ran into him 2 or 3 times in the elevator that day. I had a ton of fun and can't wait until the Vegas show!
One of the most incredible experiences I've ever had; Its echoes will ring along the strings of my life. The new material was incredible...Love Is Not Enough, The Collecter, and The Line Begins To Blur marked some of the show's highlights. A couple lovely ladies were nice enough to dance with me during Closer and Suck...shout out! And No You Don't really affected me for some reason. It was incredible; touched reseviors of emotion I didn't know I had. I liked how he said Hurt "didn't belong to him anymore". That was touching. And the man is excellent at commanding a stage. I have a lot to learn from him.
Master Traveler
i ended up sitting at a table almost directly behind the "hotel vip" booth. i have to say that this was the most amazing thing ive ever seen in my life... i feel bad for all the davis people who said their show sucked ass, cause ours was so unbelievably great, that i still cant believe i was there. thanks trent. :)
Bricklayer
no i was way to into it. i just started clicking away. my friend was right infront on the railing and didn't take one picture, he said he couldn't get the camera out of his pocket because he was MASHED against the bars. i was pissed. i would have had better ones if the crowd hadn't thrown me into the back of the pit.
Knight of the Royal Axe
what a good show i was sitting front row on the balcony. the only thing that bothered me was that the new songs i couldnt apreciate them really, just the line begins to blur, getting smaller wasnt played. this cd needs to be leaked before april 27 so i can relate to the songs more. but still the best concert i have been to by a long shot. :shock: someone better leak this shit soon. whats up to the kid i was talking to in line, the kid with the lip ring(first time to NIN concert better than the first time u had sex LOL,, you better pm me to tell me how the davis show was.
Bricklayer
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hey, i saw all three shows and i thought they got better and better every time. i thought Trent looked hotter than ever and i love the new line up. People should stop dissing that girl, Trent obviously picked her for a reason. It takes a lot to get up and play in front of NIN fans!
FUCK YES! NIN IS BACK!!! They sounded awesome, i saw them in Davis and Fresno. I have to say it was risky to put a solo artist as an opener, esp singer-songwriter, but she fucking rocked. WHO WAS SHE??? anyhow, i cant wait till the release fo WT!!! :D
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mywhitenoise wrote:The problem with opening acts, is that hardcore fans are never willing to experience new music. Trent generally has good taste in music (he listens to DFA, Liars, and Wilco for fucks sake) and I wouldn't be surprised when tonights opening act is interesting. I'll be pissed off if all these pseudo-goths boo them, but then again Davis is a college, with cool open minded college kids.
I'm sorry to say she really does suck. I go into all opening bands w/ an open mind, but her voice is awful. She's got some strong lyrics on a few of her songs but she really needs to have somebody else singing them, and her guitar work was so generic it was hard to tell the difference between each song. I'm interested to see what you're opinion will be after tonight.
I FUCKING LOVED THE SHOW! ALLL OF IT! The OPENING ACT was good and i dont think you should be shitting on her. I thought her voice was awesome and her songwriting was impressive. so shut the fuck up! jeordie needs to move around more. but i love all of them, it was aweosme!!!!
Reno show was awesome. Me and my friend waited in line from 3:30 until 7 when the doors opened. I got to stand right in the very front of the guitarist and had a kickass view. I didn't get too squished because I wasn't in front of Trent, but my friend got thrown around alot. the set list was pretty kickass. I was ecstatic that they played Reptile. I saw the band and the manager checking out the next morning as we were waiting for our shuttle in front of the Hilton and we decided not to bother them. Trent looked pretty ready to go and Aaron and the drummer all seemed to have just woken up. It seemed that the tour manager was calling them all from his cell phone to get them rounded up from their rooms. I saw a girl taking a picture with Trent as we were walking away though. I didn't want to bother them, and also, I didn't really want to ruin my impression of any of them by actually meeting them.
But other than that, I loved the show. I would love to see it again. The venue was awesome, the waiting in line all day and overpriced tickets on ebay and the overpriced room at the hilton were all worth it. We ran into a girl at the airport who said they had been staying on the 21st floor. Not that that would have helped knowing before hand because I'm pretty sure they barricaded themselves in their rooms, but sometimes its fun just to know where they're staying.
I was sooo glad I was right in front...this was my first nin show ever after having been a fan since I was 12 years old. (about 14 years). Definitely this was the show to have gone to for my first show. I don't know that I will every be able to deal with all the fuss of getting there and waiting and crowds and all that mess again but I am so glad I went.
My favorite songs live were Reptile, TLBTB, March of the Pigs, Suck, and Burn. There wasn't really a song I didn't like though. I really really wished they would have played the wretched. The guitarist was going apeshit in front of us during the whole show, he jumped upside down into the amp by the drums and at the end kicked the amp in front of the stage over into the security guard pit.
The cutest ever moment was when the bass player walked over to the guitarist and they bumped hips and smiled at each other really softly. I wish to god I would have had a camera!
Trent definitely looks a bit different up close than he does from far away. He was pretty buff but he was very short and had a thick ass neck...I geuss pictures usually aren't exactly accurate. Oh well...the music was fucking amazing. And I don't regret not stalking out the band, I'm just one in a million other fans.
Aboutt he opening act: I didnt' like her music, but thinking about it, it takes a hell of a lot of guts to play in front of so many people especially if it's only your second show ever live. What I wonder though is how she got up there: it seems like she has to be friends or related to someone in the band. I didn't think she was hot and I didn't really clap (now I feel like an asshole, I shoudl have at least given her some credit for playing up there without shaking like a maniac) because I just wanted to hear NIN not an open mic. I wasn't a fan of her voice either. But like I said, dogging her probably isn't the kindest thing for me to do either.
Bricklayer
HOLLY FUCK!!!
This was absolutely the best experience of my life. First I got to meet the man in person and get my picture. I was the person in the dead fucking center of the barrier, 3 feet from his mike the whole show. I was able to touch him and finish screaming out terrible lie, along with another fan behind me. I got some awesome pics during the show. Unfortunately they were taken with a disposable, so the quality is not the best. But, nothing compares to the images locked in my head for life. I was so happy to hear Burn. I really liked the set list. To end my evening, I was able to go backstage and hang out with the band and crew. Trent, however, stayed in his room. That was okay with me, I already felt like I got more than I could have ever wished for. Everyone was so nice. I can't wait for the rest of the shows. Here are some of the pics taken right in front of him.I have more that the world should see, but I am having trouble putting them up..stay tuned.[img][img]
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i've been a fan of nin since i was 14yrs, but this was the first time i saw a live show............fucking bad asssss. I was actually sad to leave the hotel, I COULD HAVE ROCKED OUT FOR DAYS. Trent has filled out so much lately, and he looks better than ever (if thats possible) yummmmmy. I didnt bring a cam cuz my dumb ass was following the rules, does anyone want to share pics PLEASE, PLEASE! e-mail me plz
Master of the Ninth Arch
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I don't know what else to say that has not been already said. Such an incredible show. I was on the front balcony right above the standing area and man what a view. What an amazing show!
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Bricklayer
I was only able to go to the Fresno and Reno show. They were both amazing! I was really lucky this cool guy Brett came up to my friend and I and gave us backstage passes in Reno and we got one for my sister too. While I was there we were told Trent wasn't going to be coming down. It was not at all what I was expecting back there, to be honest got a little boring and we had to leave early to go rescue a friend from some people trying to kill him (No plans to EVER return to Reno, that's for damn sure... maybe for NIN) The show was insane, I was in the mosh pit and looked like hell afterwards, although my friends tried to assure me it was in a sexy way :? . Met Rob too... at both the Fresno and Reno shows and yeah, he was really cool. Really wanted to meet Trent, but maybe next time... Insane road trip to get to both places. It's hard to believe all the shit that took place...
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Knight of the Royal Axe
Reno was a much better sounding show then Fresno. I had a blast here too but i wasnt too happy with the seating. Kinda lame for a GA show.......

*EDIT* here are some pix from the show.....

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This show was off the hook.


First off. The drive sucked. I got up there the night before and the Snow on the over passes was scary as hell. Also Reno sucks. They will still your money lmao.

So the actuall show. The venue was SOOO small. Best fucking place ever to see nin. ive been a nin fan since PHM. They havn't played such small venues in a long time. If you wanted to meet the band. here was the place. The show rocked. the fact that they played BURN, And The line begins to blur fucking rocks. I got up front of the Aron and Trent. I ran into the crowd after March of the pigs came on. I new this would be one of the only pits i can go from the back to the front in a matter of seconds. YAAAAA. Made eye contact with Trent during BURN. Singing " I NEVER WAS A PART OF YOU" YAAAAA. So fucking kewl. Then around suck. I wanted out of the mosh to go meet back at my seat with my girl. Then the stupid fucking Security gruard grabbed me by the arms and pushed me hard. I got pissed and got kicked out the concert. But thanks to my smart thinking. I walked right back in and got my Wonderful Center seats to see the rest of the show..


Later on that night I got to meet the Aron, and the keyboardst watching some Band down at the bar. A No doubt wanna be band. LMAO. They both stopped right by me and started to laugh. I relized who it was. And immediatly extendended my hand to Thank him for a wonderfull show. Aron smiled. I said your a great addition to the band and his style really fits in to NIN. He said thanks i really appriciate that. Then he tapped my shoulder and laughed and said. "This shit is funny" And took off. haha.


Then the next day on the elevator we were in the elevator with the Drummer. We had encounters with them all night the night before. Exept with trent.

But in Sac that was a different story ;)
Master of the Ninth Arch
I was two rows up from the pit in a booth fucking getting "punched in the face".

The band had crazy energy, sound was assaulting good. Loved hearing "Suck" live. THTF sounds so much better live in your face as well. I walked out of there just shaking with adrenaline. I need to go to every show possible now.

Aron is a FREAK, at one point he was playing something upside down with his legs straight up in the air hanging over some speaker, the crowd went nuts. The only issue I saw was I think Trent was actually playing more guitar than Aron because he was going so nuts during the songs. He does this wild hoola hoop thing with his guitar.

Anyway, "SO IMPRESSED WITH ALL YOU DO"
Master of the Ninth Arch
The NIN Reno show was fucking amazing! It was so good to see Trent (even if it wasn't with the gang we've grown to know and love) on stage again, and hear the live reditions of his incredible music. The new break down in 'closer' with the "through every forest, above the trees..." line was a nice change to a song that's been played a million times. The drumming on the WT songs was fucking tight! I'm sure that's mainly thanks to Dave Grohl, but something tells me Jerome added his own special touch too. Jordie's fuck up during 'Starfuckers, Inc.' was funny and it was nice to see Trent actually smile! I'm not familiar with the new guy on keyboards, but he fit in pretty well which is more than I can say of Aaron. Maybe I'm just too partial because Robin was perfect for NIN, but the guy was just too... obnoxious. Well as far as stage presence, his musical talents seemed efficient, but he's just not Robin and that's hard for me to get used to. My favorite song of the night, and the one I most looking forward to is 'With Teeth', but hearing all the new songs like that was awesome and now I'm even more stoked for the new disc and the shows at The Fillmore. That's right, The Fillmore in Denver, CO, so I don't want to hear your bitching Systematicdecline! My girlfriend and I spent over 20 hours round trip in my car, and nearly died in the shit (it began with rain, then sleet & snow all in high winds) through Wyoming. But man was it worth it! Even with all the money I dumped into those fucking machines!
Master Traveler
Reno was awesome. Trentsinmypants and I showed up at about 2 maybe (we took our time getting over the mountain from Fresno and playing in the snow, dont eat the yellow stuff). Anyway we hung out by the radio booth and talked to the DJ and we told him we were from Soan Diego (I am from the OC, I am not saying that proudly by the way). Any way so the DJ then is doing this live broadcast thing and says he's got two guys here from San Diego (us) and that we are seeing all the shows, so he starts to hand the mic to us. SO I say Keith (trentsinmypants)let me do this. So the guy hands me the mic and I blank a little, so in a very deep monotone voice say "the show was very good, the new set list is great, and nine inch male(yes), er nails sound awesome" (Imagine hearing Shaq say that and thats how it sounded). I know it sounds dumb but I was I had said what I was really thinking.... that the show was "as tight as a 10-year old".
Any way the show was awesome, Opener sucked, Aron North mellowed slightly from his attention hungry state from Fresno, and we sat at a nice table with some people from CO, (posted above me). Had a blast and met alot of cool people, however by this time we were so tired (before the show) that we were laughing at just about any and everything. Anyway we didnt get to meet trent byt Keith and I chanted fro Leo as he walked through the casino. (Yes I am the guy with the nipples for LEO.
was i dreaming or did i just see NIN in reno?
so great!!!
show was beautiful.
met aaron and Alessandro in the casino...rode in the elevator with them...apparently Alessandro is no good at gambling.
no sign of trent or jeordie but the show was enough to quench this fans' thirst...until the next night anyway.
the dream continues in the davis section...
Site Admin
TRC-13 wrote: What I want to know is what was that instrument he was plucking at the end of piggy before throwing it at the mic.
Interesting. I'm sure I saw a picture of Trent with what I thought looked like a Thumb Piano, but I didn't think much of it, wondering "Is that the thing people said he used to tweak his voice live?" (that live voice tweaking is radical, by the by.)

On the bootleg, I assumed someone pulled up the wrong keyboard patch at the end of the song. I guess Trent was actually playing the line on a thumb piano. That's badass.

I like how Trent's performing a lot more on this tour. Playing hurt on the piano, playing guitar and singing together, the thumb piano on Piggy, etc. Really nice touches.
Knight of the Royal Axe
i would have to agree with you levi. adds so much more to the show and its good to know he can still move around like that. :) too bad i wasnt able to meet you in person....i met a couple of other people and had a blast. rectal barometer was on the radio talking about the fresno show and we got free APC DVDs/CDs because we were "die hard" fans or something like that.

PS. you ever going to send me that stuff for the dvds i sent u?
I had seen them twice before this show and the Reno show was the best. One of the best show's I have ever been to out of the 80-90 shows I have seen. They fucking ROCK! Only the second show of the tour so they had all that built up energy they let explode on stage. I'll never forget it when I am old and gray! Thanks for the EXPERIENCE! :twisted:
show was awsome the chick sucked and kissed ass.. anyone get the "chewed up nails, love your wrinkles" reference?first time seeing trent and he did not diappoint.i now have a new apprieciation for all on downward. Terrible lie was amazing. Hi to the little guy who this big girl protected for most of the show. oh and the guitarist didnt play when trent was playing ALOT. LOVE it cant wait for cochella and vegas shows
Master Traveler
it seemed there were a lot of technical difficulties at the Reno show for the guitarist. In Davis he went off.
Prince Adept
Leviathant wrote:
TRC-13 wrote: What I want to know is what was that instrument he was plucking at the end of piggy before throwing it at the mic.
Interesting. I'm sure I saw a picture of Trent with what I thought looked like a Thumb Piano, but I didn't think much of it, wondering "Is that the thing people said he used to tweak his voice live?" (that live voice tweaking is radical, by the by.)

On the bootleg, I assumed someone pulled up the wrong keyboard patch at the end of the song. I guess Trent was actually playing the line on a thumb piano. That's badass.

I like how Trent's performing a lot more on this tour. Playing hurt on the piano, playing guitar and singing together, the thumb piano on Piggy, etc. Really nice touches.
I agree. His playing more instruments on this tour is great - and I loved it that he played stuff like the thumb piano and a tambourine. I heard some people complaining about the tambourine because it wasn't "cool" enough for Trent to play. But it worked perfectly in the song, and the look on Trent's face while he was playing it was like, "yeah, come up hear and make fun of my damn tambourine playing and watch me kick your fucking teeth down your throat!" :D And honestly, I have heard many live versions of Hurt before....but I have never heard a version that I love as much as how he's playing it on this tour. I was so glad to have it just be him and the keyboard - with the guys gradually coming in at the end with the guitar, bass, and drums - it was perfect. I never liked how he used to have Robin sing backup in the refrain - sorry Robin, but your singing sucks and Trent's is so poinant. It was beautiful just to hear his voice, and to be so close that I could see his facial expressions: he still really feels that song. And I swear to God, when Trent started to get all emotional during Hurt, I DID NOT CRY.....I DID NOT SHED A TEAR.....that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :grin: (I'm such an emotional pussy. :oops: )

EDIT: Keith.....I love your sig! And I think Aaron's gonna start to get some beatings pretty soon. You notice in Davis how Trent was starting to push him around from behind? (Wow....that sounds worse than I thought! hehe.) Aaron's gonna end up in the audience soon!
Site Admin
Whoever's playing guitar on The Wretched is actually playing it like it's played on the album, without skipping any notes. That didn't happen on the Fragility tour.
Prince Adept
Leviathant wrote:Whoever's playing guitar on The Wretched is actually playing it like it's played on the album, without skipping any notes. That didn't happen on the Fragility tour.
I think both Aaron and Trent played guitar (Trent played a lot during these concerts), but then Jeordie may have actually been playing guitar instead of bass during The Wretched.
Master Traveler
Edit...

Also I agree that This time they played stuff more towards the Tempo of the album. A friend brought this to my attention.
Master Traveler
aaron was playing a gold top during the wretched in davis. trent didn't play guitar on that song. the kalimba trent's playing at the end of piggy is really cool. he has it plugged in with a 1/4" jack and he also holds it close to his vocal mic.

i also liked the stuttering distorted delay effect he uses on starfuckers. a usb ribbon controller is attached to his mic stand and he touches different parts of it to give certain words a different effect.

alessandro's synth intro to march of the pigs is killer. anyone know exactly what his vertically-mounted x-y pad controller is? is it gutted from a kaos pad or something else?

-tj
Master of the Ninth Arch
Speaking of alcohol drinks, did anyone have a 'Fun Cup' from the bar? They were the drinks in the really long glasses. I have no idea what was in it, but I downed one pretty quick and even had a JD & Coke beforehand and didn't feel a thing! I guess we should've just kept drinking JD & Coke!

And for those of you who are observent and want to place a face to a name, I was wearing the 'Mandate My Ass' shirt.
My first NIN show...fucking great...and of course memories that will last a life time. I drove up from Santa Ana (OC) I used to be a LA boy, just to see Trent. A few things, so we parked by the tour buses and started walking up towards the doors and I see North up ahead, now remember, it's just me and my chick friend and we're walking towards North, I make eye contact with him while we're walking towards him, the bastard went out of his way to walk around us just so he didn't have to talk to us at all...fucking dick! Oh well, just wanted to say hi and tell him how the past like eight years I've been waiting for this moment...but besides that...missed meeting trent at johnny rockets by an hour...he gave vip passes to his waiter as a tip. Great show, was right in front of jordie, his mic didn't work for most of the show, so he was getting really pissed at the roadie, even going so far as making hand guesturs for a mike and putting up to his face saying "get me a fucking mic that works" yeah I can kind of lip read. Oh yeah, there was that asshole in front of me who tried to choke some chick because she put her hand on the barrier to keep her steedy...he tried to start a fight with me because of it too. But great fucking show...can't wait for Cochella and San Diego
Master ad Vitam
famous last words or tour stop number two:

the tale continues as we are gently shooed from the saroyan lobby into the cold night air. me and a few others of our party, as well as a few new additions, decide that going over to the motel eight and hanging out with a cool dude named dominic [he of miyagis from the "friday night's alright for fake gunplay" saga]while we wait for part of our party to return from the euphemism is an great "idear". sooner or later, ignatz and crew become "unstuck in time" and we plot our next move.

word on the street is that the 80 is still snowed in. i am regaled with stories of black ice and other horrors by former residents of the east coast. what really bothers me is that is not only do i have zero experience driving in such conditions, we also lack any real plan of action i.e., an actual hotel room of our own in reno. i do not relish driving a route that may or may not be closed by the weather and going to a town where i have to wander vaguely around a hotel lobby [which most likely contains a casino] for god knows how many hours. since i am the driver, i make the executive decision that we ain't going nowhere until daybreak. this decision is not popular, but fuck it, i'm in charge.

at the local hang, i grab some floor and try to sleep. i succeed in catching a few winks but it can't be any more than an hour or two as i go over the latest dispatch of tour anxiety in my head. luckily, towards daybreak, i am treated to a listen to a spiffy group called "the frogs" who would probably annoy the crap out of you. this makes them the coolest thing possible to me, despite the fact that a smashing pumpkins dvd is what recommended them to skwerl and eventually led to my ears. they are funny, which puzzles me since i didn't know corgan actually possessed a sense of humor, but hey, i've been wrong before. this won't make me like the pumpkins any more than i already don't, but will give me pause before the next time i launch into a hate filled rant about how much they piss me off; especially corgan and his bald head.

what i come to learn as the sun also rises, [yes, there will be no extraneous nin quotes from me in my reviews and i will therefore substitute literary references instead], is that a certain member of the party has decided to opt out. while this is disappointing, skwerl has been tempted to go.

what you have to know about this is that the dude said the following:

"i don't care if you give me a ticket and a ride. i am not going."

famous last words.

so we gather up our new, improved party, containing me, exit, and skwerl, and head out on the 99 fwy on the way to "sac", which is the unfortunate contraction of the name our revered state capitol at 10 ayem. we take the chains and hope for the best since all travel advisories have been lifted. while on the road i get phone calls telling me that people who started on the road in the middle of the night were forced to sleep in their cars at the summit. this makes me feel a tad better about my decision and, while i hope that it doesn't put me in the very back of the hall watching tiny specks of musicians, i manage to retain a cheery attitude.

in sacramento, i take the 80 fwy and start up the pass. at the beginning of the trip, we are treated to socal-like conditions. with little to no warning, the snow sets in. literally. we get snow showers and get to watch the plows work on the snowbanks as we climb. the subject of the afternoon inevitably turns to cannibalism. i think it was the fact that i made a joke about snacks and skwerl replied that the donner party thought they had plenty too. sadly, since we were cutting time pretty close, we were unable to stop at the "pioneer monument" and chew on some beef jerky and memorialize the event with photos. that's right, apparently, we are some sick bastards. but the discussion of that most taboo of subjects continued on past the summit and went through modern day cannibals, the seige of stalingrad, and the book, "stiff", which had already come up while we were eating lunch, but had to be revisited while passing the emigrant gap.

we arrive in reno and return to what looks like socal but feels like utah-like conditions, at least from the standpoint of the temperature. it is at this time that we realize that we really have no place do trivial things like take showers, change our clothes, or do our hair. mac lip-schtick to the rescue. seems that the arbitary "plan" hatched earlier wasn't really concrete and since we don't have a lot of time till the show - we really don't have a lot of time to do anything about it. instead we trudge over to the casino floor and get in line.

even though it is four pee'em and there are about 125 people ahead of us, we are not very concerned. what i should have been worried about was this:

i had dressed according to my assumptions of cold weather, which was actually a really good idea. i was wearing a suit jacket, a base layer ski thermal, jeans and some ski socks. think warm. i'll admit it, i was a little loopy from lack of coffee, water, solid food, and sleep. i was also waiting for uncle drunkie to come down and claim his ticket from me. bless his black heart, he called everyone else but me and then took his time. this caused me to wait around and, in a fugue state, i forgot to change and get rid of my purse. this will become crucial about half way through the set since i am in the pit but i have only myself to blame. i also have to work on getting a hotel room for us to sleep in since our space for after the show has magically disappeared, much to my dismay.

time seems to speed up and we become aware that a couple of really neato folks from apc.net are kicking around the hotel. skwerl goes off in search of dvn and i talk to completetool about our obsession with the donner party. she concurs and tells of having to video all the related signage on the way up over the pass.

drunkie eventually comes over to get his ticket and we get to meet gentle red. the line start moving and i truly come to terms with how much of a bad idea not changing was. i wish i had had the presence of mind to ask exit to hold my purse, but i didn't want to be the lame-o who stuck her with my responsibility. since reno will be the worst of the two pit areas, i should have swallowed my stupid pride, but i am not one to foist on my friends.

shit.

skwerl and head for the orchestra in the front and ignore the many banquettes that offer the relative comfort and safety that makes me squirm.

exit decides, for reasons of her own to hang back. not because she can't rage but, well, she has a mission to complete, don't you know.

funnily enough, the rodent and i end up in the second row. weird how that happens, eh? we are surrounded by truly fantastic bunch of friendly freaks who are more than willing to share space and fight for the rights of their newly acquired tour buddies [that would be us, btw]. these guys are ready to fight before the show starts and promise help and stare down the lowlifes who are already eyeing the space that we are currently occupying. even though, some drugs are clearly being consumed, i feel a nice sense of trust and camaraderie towards these folks.

now is the time when i should mention what i know as a concert adage.

"the smaller the pit, the more heinous the crush." and yes, the reno pit follows this adage to the letter. here we go.

opening act: lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. my soul, my sin.

to bring the point home, i have taken a moment to specially compose a whimsical poesy just for the occasion.

this non review
has been brought
to you
by the auspice
of the letter
"j"
don't forget
on the way out
to have a
really nice day!

as soon as said act has left the stage the crush begins in earnest. as a group, we attempt to hold our ground but there are some serious scumfucks to whom the words "we were here first, fair and square" mean nothing. in particular, one large bastard [that is code for tank brain] clearly intends to muscle his way through skwerl and me. since he has no way of knowing that skwerl is a veteran of the philly punk wars, he does not realize that he is doomed to abject failure.

love is not enough - this song kicks off the show well and sounds even better than last night. i realize that we are directly in front of reznor and am pleased as punch.

march of the pigs - rocking [!] and it is at this point that i am forced to dig my nails into some guys forearm. when he yells at me to stop, i point out that his elbow had been lodged in my throat and that i was not able to breathe. he seems to back off after that.

reptile - another very pleasant surprise song and the moment when i fancy that the compression in the crowd is such that my rib cage may implode and my heart might pop out. no lie. but boy, was the rendition of the song worth it.

piggy - this song began as a brief breather that was also the moment that i understood what a bad idea my clothing was. reznor is smiling and gives extra emphasis to the end lyrics with a sardonic glee that is wonderful to see. meanwhile, the pudgester next to skwerl takes the lyrics "nothing can stop me now" as his personal mantra to rid the pit of all obstacles to his personal adulation of trent.

terrible lie - less enthusiastic but still good version of the song. i think this may have been when reznor had a "difficulty" with his own lyrics, much to his own amusement. this is also where the mighty mighty skwerl first pushed dipstick back into his place. it was truly a sight to behold and i am still somewhat in awe of his sheer strength and determination. i asked him if he wanted out right then and he said, "hey, as long as bottles aren't flying, i'm okay."

the collector - i was fading fast at this point so i am none to clear on the details. sounded pretty fucking good though.

with teeth - more tambourine inspired hilarity. even hearing it the first night did not prepare me for the fact that the song has an elongated break and is not really o-v-e-r. i noticed that the lighting [mostly in jewel tones] goes from the blue/purple, to white, darkness, and briefly flashes reznor green. indeed, he does toss the tamb. and leo goes long for the catch. we are also treated to dancing that is pretty funk-i-fied for a dude from pa. the lack of self consciousness that was needed for this demonstration to work is a marvel of nerve and no, i am not kidding. this is where skwerl, the digital superhero, must again place roly poly in check. truly, he is not to be underestimated by those who think bulk will carry the day.

closer - more of the same - that is to say - good times. but, since i am considering taking a nap as a good option, i am forced to have myself pulled from the crowd as i feel i am on the verge of heat exhaustion. after telling skwerl that i am about to faint [true], i stupidly try to work my way back. that is how out of it i was at the time, kids. security unwedged me and i am treated to the indignity of being the lame girl carried bodily to the side by some burly dude. i hang my head in shame. nice lighting, btw.

home - i don't remember this one so i have no opinion.

burn - coming back to normal; "burn" sounded even better than the previous night. more vicious, if you get my meaning.

no, you don't - this is where i begin to truly regret getting pulled out. more aural ill will in perfect harmony.

even deeper - son of a bitch, it sounded good, but i was at the side of the stage. i love this song and hope that i will hear it from the front in davis.

the line begins to blur - much better place in the order. well done.

suck - mother of bitches, i wish i had just pulled off the thermal and wore my coat. this was fucking great and sounded exactly like the album version that i recklessly adore.

wish - the less said about this the better, but only because i might pout at not being in front.

hurt - loud sing along song, very popular with the kids. well done like the night before.

the hand that feeds - more good stuff that i missed out on.

starfuckers - see above for comment.

head like a hole - an even more passionate version of the song than the previous night and an even better capper to the night. jesus god i wish i had made it through this whole show.

after locating skwerl and bumping into uncle drunkie, we are introduced to a couple of other board members. don't worry, it was no one that you would recognize. we noticed that the guys left in the orchestra area seem to be flailing around like a speared octopus trying catch items that are being flung from the stage. sensibly, we ignore them and their weirdness. however, while i am striking up a convo. my new acquaintance is suddenly knocked to the floor by rampaging douchebags. just as soon as i reach over to offer her a hand, i too am slammed off my feet. my ass seems to barely graze the ground as unseen hands use jedi like intensity to lift me back up. we resume convo. as if nothing else had happened, which is lucky since i intended to scream obscenities at the fucking losers who think it is okay to run women over in search of souvenirs.

skwerl indicates that this would be a good time to search out dvn and completetool. we collect them and find exit outside the venue doors texting me. we retire to dvn's suite and have most excellent time ordering room service, eating fried food with ranch dressing, and making a list of the ten coolest motherfucking things of all time. go over to "speak your mind" and check the thread if'n you don't believe me. and truly, the two fifths of bacardi that we consumed helped us along. we had such a great time and our laughter was so loud that around 2:00 ayem, we got a friendly visit from the reno p.d. asking the nice nine inch nails fans to shut their tiny little precious mouths for the nice policemen.

yes, this is how we roll.
Bricklayer
tjmilian wrote:anyone know exactly what his vertically-mounted x-y pad controller is? is it gutted from a kaos pad or something else?
I had the same question.

Sounds like a good question for the NIN site.
Rdm wrote: the only thing that bothered me was that the new songs i couldnt apreciate them really, just the line begins to blur, getting smaller wasnt played. this cd needs to be leaked before april 27 so i can relate to the songs more. but still the best concert i have been to by a long shot. :shock: someone better leak this shit soon. whats up to the kid i was talking to in line, the kid with the lip ring(first time to NIN concert better than the first time u had sex LOL,, you better pm me to tell me how the davis show was.

Before i say how floored i was by this show, i wanted to scold this person (with my own point of view, sorry if you dont agree, as he obviously does not). Think about it man, this is something that Trent has been working on for years. The fact that he is on tour, playing some of the songs live now, is probably a sign that its done, if not close to done, yes. But does that mean that we have the right to hear all of it? Not at all; we will only have that right once Trent himself thinks we are worthy of it, and i think that no matter how big of a fan you are, thats a level of respect that NIN should command over anyone posting of this website of obvious NIN fans.

The show really was just that amazing, worth missing all of the classes that i did to get to it. I bought the tickets on ebay for much more than i SHOULD have payed, but dont get me wrong, it was *completely* worth every penny.
My personal story is pretty interesting actually; i live in British Columbia, and am in university here. I caught a bus from vancouver to reno, and got there an hour and a half before the show began.
When i got off of the bus i didnt know how to get to the show or anything, other than i needed to get there fast, and hopefully get dinner before hand.
I stopped in at a little coffee shop called the Java Jungle in downtown and met some people there who told me what city bus i would need to take, and then got talking about how i needed to hitch-hike to san-fran to see a friend before going back to classes. Not twenty minutes after arriving in Reno, i was offered not only a ride to San-Fran the next afternoon, but even a place to stay after the show (i was on a VERY small budget incase you didnt guess).
From there things just seemed to get better. I got to the Hilton at 7:58 on the city bus. I had to scalp one of my tickets (a friend bailed on me) and lost only $5 on what i payed for it on ebay to what i sold it for. Then, went in, got right in the front of the pit as the lights went down for the opener. She was... acceptable. I was not very floored by her, but she has my respect for a)getting up infront of all those NIN fans and b)obviously being respected on some level by Trent, therefore worthy of respect and c)it was good to here a girl up there playing feminist songs, solo.
2 songs into her set i realized how badly i had to go to the bathroom, so i weighed out the possibility of holding it until after the show, which i realized i could not do, and going out and back really qickly. Opting for the latter choice i booked it out, to the bathrooms (where i heard some jokes about how even Trent needs to get laid; hence the opener) and back, just in time to hear her last song.
Waiting for NIN to come out, i met some kids from Denver, who had been pulled over on the way and had tons of pot and i think it was valium taken from them, and they were pretty choked, but some Reno locals got us pretty high to make up for it.
The entire show i was no more than 20 feet from Trent, pretty much dead center im guessing (i didnt look away from the stage at all to judge as much). I'm also trying to figure out what the instrument that Trent was playing was, i couldnt pick out any distinct sounds coming from it. I would say more about the show, but i really dont think its necessary; those that were there to experience it understand my practical loss of descriptive words, and those that werent hopefully can get some idea of how good of a show they missed. Just wish that i could have seen more of the tour, but alas, i cannot, and am now back in classes in BC -- but i did get to go to the Anarachist Bookfair in San-Fran, unintentionally, but it was a very good experience, and helped my hitch-hiking north.

Someone mentioend a bootleg of the show, is it available online somewhere?
I once had a site where I listened to it constantly, but the index place either crashed or just shut off or something... maybe even bandwith time.

Anyway, I've been looking into whose it actually was, but if I find the index URL working again soon here, I'll post it, 'cause it was so easy to access. All the songs, lined up, in order.
Global Mod
sorrow_starr wrote:Think about it man, this is something that Trent has been working on for years. The fact that he is on tour, playing some of the songs live now, is probably a sign that its done, if not close to done, yes.
this is an even bigger sign that it's done:

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Grand Pontiff
Nobody will see this, but what the fuck . . .

Just thinking back on an incredible show i saw at an incredible venue last month in Reno. It was (for me) a once-in-a-lifetime experience that i will never forget.

*Sigh*

Spending the night in the Reno Int'l Airport wasn't so great.

Memories . . .
it was my first nin show ever...

i came from saskatoon, saskatchewan and ended up right in front of mr. north i was while trent smashed that instrument during piggy. Good, take that. Now, at 140lbs and 5'11 im not very big but burn sure makes you feel like you can take on anything. Entertaining, but too many older songs not enough fragile/with teeth stuff... the perfect drug/deep maybe? not to be a bitch, being that trent is a king amoung men, but it was my first show ive pretty much seen it before (closure/aatchb) i hope to hear a more current set list next time i see trent. Vancouver, Canada I hope. See you all there.
This show was absolutely amazing. It was well worth the price that I shelled out on eBay for the tickets. The new songs were great live --(as I am posting this, obviously, after the release of WT)I think they sounded better live than they do on the CD (and that's saying a lot). This was my first NIN show, and now I'm rabid to go see another show, sooner than later.
i went to this show, but i wasnt there if you know what i mean.i couldnt hear the truth trent was screaming during the concert. i had disconected and pretended everything was alright. it wasnt alright. i was numb to everything. i think i missed out on something great. i hope to live again
Grand Pontiff
what the hell does that mean? drunk? drugs?

what a waste.
The reno show was really awesome! I flew in from Austin Tx just to see my very first live NIN gig. I just couldn't wait till may to see them at Stubb's, so I requested Vacation time from work to head out there, and what a great time i had! Trent looked and sounds better than ever, and aside from me droolin and creamin my pants the whole time Aaron really fucked up the crowd w/his persistent movements and Jeordie was very appealing on the bass.....i think he's doing great since leaving MM. Alessandro was wicked on the keyboards and of course Jerome was a maniac on the kit! I was totally blown away, Trent is like an addiction to me....i was bummed i didn't get to meet him (and i prolly woulda been able to) but my date wasn't in the mood to wait around, he just wanted to get piss drunk, which we did and I was so dissapointed that i wasn't up front b/c i woulda gotten some better pics of Trent and the guys.....oh well they'll be in Austin in a few days and you'd better believe i am gonna be there bright and early to meet the guys and give trent that bday present i've been longing to give him for years and years......Ciao
i know this is for the concert. i went. But right now theres something else i have to say.

i have no other way of contacting a girl named sarah. sarah if you see this get ahold of me. i miss you.

steave
steaven ur fucked up!
Wow. Who do you think you are? Fuckin lame, man.
Oh, and the concert fucking ruled! Trent looked and sounded amazing. Aaron was lookin pretty good too. Heh. Yeah the music was sweet too......

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michelle ;)