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2005/05/09 - Toronto, CAN [Kool Haus]

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2005/05/09 - Toronto, CAN [Kool Haus]
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-Greg
loved when twiggy hit aaron in the face w/ a bottle.
don't like trent's muscles.
not a great show, but good to see trent again.
Master Traveler
ok, i hate with teeth but this was my favorite nin show. i've seen 7 shows since 91 and tonight was brilliant.

i now wish i hadn't sold my tickets for tuesdays show!
Prince Adept
whorenun wrote:not a great show
Fuck right off, it was unbelievable. I didn't even expect to go tonight, but there I was. Just fucking incredible... the crowd was goin' nuts during the hardest songs and stayed reasonably quiet for the quiet bits. God bless the KoolHaus! I haven't had a night like that in five years. Setlist:

Pinion
You Know What You Are?
Sin
The Line Begins To Blur
March of the Pigs
Something I Can Never Have
The Hand That Feeds
Terrible Lie
Reptile
Closer (w/The Only Time)
Home
Burn
With Teeth
Every Day Is Exactly the Same
No, You Don't (blew the goddamn roof off!)
Suck
Gave Up
Hurt
Wish
Head Like A Hole

More details to follow, once I've recovered a bit... tomorrow night should kick even more fuckin' Canadian ass!
Master Traveler
Thanks for the setlist botley. can't wait to see the show tomorrow night...
Bricklayer
Amazing show! Easily my favourite nin show as well (saw them 3 times previously since 94). Hopefully tomorrow night's even better :)
Knight of the Royal Axe
good show, but the venue was hot as hell! it was goot to hear Sin played live and Something I Can Never Have was really good. It was nice meeting everyone that i met too.....next up, Phoenix!
Prince Adept
trentsinmypants wrote:good show, but the venue was hot as hell!
You were wearing a fuckin' hoodie in the sold-out Kool Haus, dum-dum! I'm still dripping with sweat and I only had a long-sleeved shirt and jeans on.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Overall, an awesome show.

DD were very good, far better than the live mp3s I've heard although still not to my taste, but damn Brian can play those drums. I think the majority of the applause they got was for him.

Saw Rob setting up the camera in the sound pit in between bands, but forgot to say hi, even though he had to walk right by me to get in and out of the pit. Just as well; he's a busy boy.

NIN, well, what can I say? One of the best concerts I've seen. Not enough Fragile material imo, but like hell I'm going to complain about what we did get. Aaron seemed a little subdued and only got totally hyper for three songs or so throughout the show. Jeordie was rather animated, especially at the beginning and has wicked aim with those water bottles, but I'm sure Aaron's used to it by now. Alessandro played guitar (or bass? I couldn't tell) for at least one song. Kudos to all three for some spiffy backing vocals. Trent was all over the place and was by far the most hyper of the bunch. Not very talkative, we got a few thank yous and a "It's great to be back in fucking Canada" and that was it.

My first NIN concert and I wasn't disappointed. Can't wait for the stadium tour in the fall/winter/whenever.
Master Traveler
the venue didn't seem that full. i've been to shows at the kool haus when you couldn't move an inch.
Hey headhunter I can't believe you sold your tickets for Tuesday. Anyway I said hi to you at the show. You said "I hate With Teeth". I'm the guy who was behind you in line when you bought those tickets (I didn't get one) had to pay scalper.
Great Show the above setlist is right.
Why isn't Home on the NA CD he seems to play it every night. Not the best song live.
Highlights of the show, Pinion opening, You Know Who you are (great opening Terrible Lie Needed to move), NO you Don't (fucking rocked), Reptile and Burn, fuck so many great songs. The ending was fucking intence, Suck - Gave up - Hurt - then back to rock -Wish then HLAH. Great. It was hot up front. After biking home I still am wet.
I have to say that the TShirt's aren't the best quality and probably will need extra love to LAST.
Anywho else notice that some of the new songs aren't great live - I mean I love the new album but they need more work. I am sure they will work out the kinks. Old stuff just blew new stuff away.
Does anyone know if they are working on a DVD? Rob Sheridan shot the entire show from stage left. Looked like he was covering Jordie and Keyboard stuff. Trent is fucking ripped up. His arms are huge. I miss Robin. Don't think "new guy" has Robin's kick ass energy or skill -he is good just not Robin. But Axle is paying him large I guess -too bad. Can't believe Trent's body -looks like he must really fucking work out. Anyone see who ended up with the tamberine it landed near me -what a souviner FUCK.
Something I Can Never Have.....
Master of the Ninth Arch
awesome motherfucking concert

trent's last bottle hit me in the shoulder.

i'll give full story/review tomorrow.

i have been destroyed.
Master of the Ninth Arch
wow freakin awsome show DD were great live found a new love for them,
as for Nails.. wow it was... no words can describe it. greatest show i've seen EVER, and yea no, you don'[t fuckin just blew the place out.
it was hot as hell i was in a T and was driping, mind you i was jumping and screamin :) thx trent dresdon and all of NIN for a great time and show :)
see you tomorrow
DD - War Pigs! that was outstanding...

Trent and co. did not fall short. Trent was going insane tonight they just powered through the set. No, You Don't was great but I know that means they're probably going to play The Big Come Down tomorrow DAMMIT...

I'm jealous of all you ppl going to both shows...

Favs - Gave Up, With Teeth, Hurt
Master of the Ninth Arch
Feel free to skip right past this post because I do tend to ramble on about crap that you most likely won't give a damn about and has very little to do with the actual concert. I've always been extremely private but now I'm just gonna spill it so do feel free to skip by.

Confession. (Some of you here already know, however almost no one in my real life knows.)
I'm deaf.
Hearing impaired, more specifically.
I began slowly losing my hearing when I was seven. Over the last several years, there's been a dramatic decline in my hearing and I've now got 96% hearing loss in my right ear, 92% in my left. Most people will probably assume that this means there is no sound and that everything is just really fucking quiet. Not, so. Quite the opposite actually. I haven't heard the sound of silence since I was seven, and yes, I do remember every detail of it. What I hear is all grey noise, distorted, blended together to be overwhelmingly inaudible. That along with the horrendous tinnitus, constant ringing, roaring, and unbearable pressure, drown out the sounds that I might actually like to hear, and make that shirt that I bought back in '95 all the more fitting: Goddamn This Noise Inside My Head.
Anyway, the doctors all agree that the small amount of hearing that I do have left, and that I've learned to get the most out of, will be gone completely within a very short amount of time. What that entails exactly, I'm not sure. Will I finally get the silence that I've been longing for since I was seven or will the audible world around me all become completely and unbearably distorted noise? I guess I will soon find out the answer to that question.

Anyway, music has been such an important part of who I am ever since I was a small child and I've been desperately trying to hold onto that part of me despite the restrictions that I face.
I've been a nin fan since I first heard SICNH in '89. More than just a fan, a super-obsessed Trent fangirl. With the hearing that I do have, (plus kick-ass head phones, a wicked stereo system, an equalizer that I can fuck with to no end, and the aid of two small digital electronic devices that fit quite snug into my ear canals: I am part machine) I've been able to listen to the new album, With Teeth. Everything that I thought it would be. Of course I hear it in a completely different way than the rest of you do though I can't explain it. Trent has always had this miraculous ability to harness all this noise that overwhelms me, tortures me, and he can take it and turn it into something beautiful. Something that I love and can take comfort in.

So I got to hear the new album.
But I wanted more.
I wanted, after all this time, to finally see him perform live. (I've been unfortunate during the last several tours to end up sobbing uncontrollably at home while everyone else got to go to the shows.)
But that's not all. I wanted even more.
I didn't want just to see him perform live, I wanted to hear him.
Too late. I thought. Several years too late in fact.
But then the oddest thing happened. NIN was booked to perform at the Kool Haus in Toronto. A two thousand person club with acoustics that just aren't possible in a venue any larger.
Of course I was just guestimating that the sound quality in a club this size would actually make any difference with regard to me. But it sounded logical. If I wanted this one last chance to hear him, his voice, his music, live, right in front of me, then this was the best opportunity. All I had to do was obtain a ticket, then I would see for myself if my theory was right, maybe I would get the chance to hear something beyond the distorted noise, maybe I'd hear something familiar, something that I'd recognise. Maybe, I'd hear Trent. Live. Just this once. I've been waiting since '89 for this opportunity.

Easier said than done of course.
Seems like a two thousand person venue was ideal for so many others who wanted to attend. Needless to say, when I ended up ticketless, I spent two whole weeks in continuous tears. When people would ask what had happened that put me in such a miserable state, they'd laugh to find out that it was all over just a concert. They could never understand. After a while though, I thought that maybe this was what I needed. I've been hanging onto something that I know I should let go of. It's time to move on. I 'm only hurting myself with this. Stop the denial and just move on already. Get a hobby maybe. What do deaf people do anyway? Maybe I should look it up somewhere, and then start acting accordingly. Maybe I should take up knitting. I've heard good things about the joys of crocheting.

A few days ago, luck was finally on my side, and a ticket mercifully fell right into my lap. Care of Trevlan. BTW, thanks again, Trev. Fuck lame ass hobbies, I want my NIN.

I went to the show tonight. I stood on the top stair, leaning against the rail of the small staircase at the back right-hand side of the venue. Perfect. I could see over everyone's heads. Perfect view. I saw Trent tonight. Stared right at him with my own two eyes. Beautiful.
The music started and he began to sing. I could see his lips, I could read them, I could see him sing. I closed my eyes and I heard him, every word. Breathtaking. And yes, like the sappy, sissy chick I am, I broke down into tears when he sang SICNH, the first NIN song I'd ever heard back when I was just a kid listening to my older sister's tapes. I recognised them all. Every song in the setlist, right from the first notes played, I could hear them, my way, I knew which ones they were, I recognised the songs that even the people around me had no idea of. What a fucking amazing show.

So to the details of the show, finally.

While I was waiting beside the merch booth, I saw Leo. I was too shy to say hello though. He looked right at me. Really he did. He must have known I recognised him. I wish I had at least said hi. Then I saw Rob walk by. Definitely a very good looking fellow.

Dresden Dolls were fantastic. The drummer is amazing. The crowd seemed subdued, but welcoming toward them.

Again I saw Rob, he and another man stood right in front of me for at least ten minutes. They looked at me, looking at them. Really. True story. Again though, I was just too insecure to say even a hello. He wasn't even busy at the time, he was just hanging out. It probably wouldn't have been too much of a bother if I'd said hello. But I'm a chicken. And maybe it would have been extremely bothersome to him. So I let him be. I even looked away when he noticed I was looking at him, I didn't want to make him feel uncomfortable or anything. Plus I can read lips so looking at two people talking is liken to eavesdropping, I felt guilt. Damn Jiminy.

Anyway, NAILS took the stage!!!! Botley's set list is correct.
I saw botley too BTW, did I mention that I'm a chicken. Sorry I didn't say hello botley. You look really good with short hair. You should consider keeping it that way. The crowd was a little subdued, but then, so was the band. It must have been the unbearable heat. Damn it was hot and there was no air!! I wasn't anywhere near the pit, yet I spent most of the show fanning myself with a piece of paper just to stop myself from fainting. Thanks for the bottle of water at the exact right moment Trevlan.

Everything about the show was incredible. Trent looked and sounded unbelievable. It was a night that I've been waiting for, for almost 16 years and it didn't let me down in the least bit. I only wish that I could do it all again tomorrow, I'd gladly put up with the heat again. Everyone headed out to the show tomorrow is sure to be blown away, and destroyed. Enjoy.
Anyway, I'm finally ready to let go and move on. So this is my last post to ETS. VeraLynn quits ETS. But I leave on an unbelievably high note. Maybe I will try knitting.
No, not likely but I'm sure I'll figure something out.
Chao.

~Vera
Master of the Ninth Arch
i wasn't there and I know I shouldn't be posting,
but the post above me is amazing,
and makes me think that I shoudln't take such things for granted.

I would have given you my ears for the night if I could have.
Master Traveler
Vera

If you read this - you should try and send that post to soemone in the NIN camp. I think reading that would mean more to them than $$'s, chart positions, awards, etc, etc.

Take care.
Master of the Ninth Arch
^^Totally agree. Vera what an inspirational story. Best of luck to you!

(I wasn't there. Don't shoot. :shock: )
GentleRed
VeraLynn wrote:
I think it was very brave of you to post this.
I think you should stick around...no need to leave.
Troll
VeraLynn, your story touched me and just like someone pointed out above, never to take anything for granted. I wish you the best.






Andy Dufresne; after two weeks in the hole for playing music over the pa system in prison:

Red: why did you do it Andy?

FLOYD: Was it worth two weeks in the hole?

ANDY: Easiest time I ever did.

HEYWOOD: Shit. No such thing as easy time in the hole. A week seems like a year.

ANDY: I had Mr. Mozart to keep me company. Hardly felt the time at all.

RED: Oh, they let you tote that record player down there, huh? I could'a swore they confiscated that stuff.

ANDY: The music was here *points to his head* and here *points to his heart*. That's the one thing they can't confiscate, not ever.
Master of the Ninth Arch
woah, Vera don't leave us now.. :( i'm glad i was able to help you out and now i'm even gladder[umm is this a word?] that it was you. your very welcome with that the ride [you forgot to mention i gave you a lift home pfft] lol and the water. hope to see you around. and yea that was long post but a great read.

Trev
Master of the Ninth Arch
"Shawshank Redemption" reference on ETS??

Never thought I'd see the day. :)
Master Traveler
fuckin amazing trent!!!!!!!!1
with teeth, when that song came on....oh man. i was the stinky sweeaty kid with the white dress shirt on in the midlle sorta off to the left. i gotta "wave goodbye...." from trent, i think
awesome awesome show.
the 200$ taxi ride home was fun too. ever meet up with patrick the migerian taxi griver tell em wes says hi!
thanks trent it was a beautiful day!


ps anyone with pics should upload them or take soem tonite it would be great, and get me a tamborine
!!!!!!!!!
Site Admin
VeraLynn, that was the most moving thing I've ever read here. Thank you for sharing.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I was impressed with the Dresden Dolls. They were a lot better than I had expected, though I did have fairly low expectations. One of the only songs of theirs I had heard before last night was the third song they played, "Missed Me", which I hated then and still hate now (I find it repetitive to the point of being inane). However, the rest of their set was quite good. The cover of War Pigs was certainly a hit, and the two of them definitely have good stage presence.

Regarding NIN... what a set! A really good choice of tunes to play, very heavy and energetic (with a few breathers thrown in there). After starting the night in the front few rows of people I was pretty damned exhaused (and completely drenched in my own sweat) by the end of things. I'm pretty sure I had a bloody nose at one point, but my sweat washed it away pretty quickly (as my nose had a fair bit of dried blood in it this morning - sorry for the gruesome details).

I bet the people who got Trent's tambourine and Jeordie's bass feel pretty fucking lucky right now. Anyone know who ended up with them?

Also, someone was asking about Home, and why it's not on the album. It's a b-side on the "The Hand That Feeds" single, and most agree that it's not album calibre material. However, to give fans who don't feel like importing the single from Europe (or downloading the mp3) a chance to hear it, they've been playing it for this tour. At least I suspect that to be part of why they're playing it.
This should be the tour setlist. Its amazing.
Banned
thank god for kick-ass head phones, a wicked stereo system, an equalizer that I can fuck with to no end, and the aid of two small digital electronic devices that fit quite snug into my ear canals. :)
Troll
WOW

First of all, Trent looks absolutely ripped and healthy. He sounds better than he ever did.

I was watching the whole show by the right side of the mixing booth. I was actually right beside the camera that Rob Sheridan had set up to record the concert. If any of you saw, I was the guy who shook his hand and talked to him for 10 minutes. I got a bit of information.

Rob said he doesn't know when the GNN version of "The Hand that Feeds" is going to be released. He seemed to hint that it may not come to fruition. I did however compliment him on the great job he did on the "The Hand that Feeds" and "And All that Could Have Been". Because I am in the film program at York University, we started talking about 24p cameras and the fielding effect in "The Hand that Feeds" but I will spare you that discussion. He said that video was something he threw together at the last minute. I also complimented him on his artwork for the new album. I told him it was nice counterpoint to "The Downward Spiral". He then asked me "Do you know who's directing the new NIN single, 'Only'?" to which I replied "David Fincher!". I then mentioned that it was absolutely amazing that things have comer full circle (if you read my review of the album in the "album reviews" section I go into greater detail) about the NIN-Pahalaniuk-Fincher-NIN circle. He thought that was actually pretty astute, and mentioned that not to expect the video for the new single for quite a while. He said the video is ENTIRELY CGI. I asked him if they used photogammetry, but he said it was just CGI. He said its a really interesting concept, and that David Fincher was happy to finally be working with Trent. :-D I asked him for more details but he said "You'll just have to see!". What a tease, but he's a really nice and cool guy.

Oh yeah, NIN rocked. They delivered a face-melting show like I wanted them to. Trent delivered.

"You Know What You Are" was just awe inspiring- a "holy shit NIN are back moment"."Burn" live is an epiphany. The bass in that and the rhythm is UNREAL. "No You Don't" riled people up into a frantic/manic state unlike what I have ever seen (the only thing that comes close is "Starfuckers Inc." on the floor at Maple Leaf Gardens). I was also pleasantly surprised by "Reptile". Usually I find this song to be trudging on TDS, and I usually skip past it, but I'll be damned, that was the heaviest groove that night. Another song that "proved" itself was "The Hand that Feeds". What might sound slightly unremarkable on the radio or within the high standards set by NIN's discograpy, totally owned live. I guess when Trent wrote the song he jammed it live and it sounded like we heard it tonight. That song destroys all comers live. "Sin" was incredible. It was good to hear some synths again. "Wish" was the second coming, everyone rasing their fists during "fist fuck!" was hilarious. Oh, and "Terrible Lie", well- it's "Terrible Lie", there is no way in hell that song cannot melt your face.

The lights were as usual, blindingly beautiful. I think the lighting guy should have been a bit more intense and on the rhythm, but its barely worth mentioning. I finally found out what all those things were on stage that look like metal flowers facing the drum kit and keyboards- they're lights.

The Kool Haus was packed. All the way to the corners of the club. I guess that's about 2000-2500 people? My god it was hot in there. I can't imagine moshing or being near the front. I was drenched with sweat just standing watching the show. During the NIN set, or before it there was a guy carrying out a girl who had passed out. Poor girl.

I think Trent has replaced the "drug high" with the "work out" high. Much healthier. He was the healthiest looking guy at the show. Hell, I felt bad-and if its one thing that Trent and his music has inspired me to do- its work out. Not what you expect from NIN music. I'm a normal weight, but I ain't got muscles. Definitely no muscles like Trent (he looks strangely like Sylvester Stallone now). Thanks Trent for setting a good example.

Overall, I really thought this show was the best he has ever done. I must admit, I was closer to the stage during the Fragility Tour, and could see Trent more clearly (he was higher). Now, please don't flame me for this, but I'm 24 years old now, and 5 years ago when NIN came to the Gardens, I could connect to every lyric. Seeing Trent this time has made me feel a bit older. Some of the lyrics no longer apply to me anymore, and I no longer "feel" them. It was a disillusioning experience, but I guess that's getting older. I wonder how Trent who is close to 40 can connect with his younger sentiments? I must admit, the political bents of "Burn", "Head Like a Hole" and "The Hand that Feeds" continue to stay appealing as timeless works, personally. I think I've just become a more even and grounded person, it comes with becoming and adult I guess, so please don't take it as a criticism of Trent's work. I will continue to see NIN, its just that I feel some of the songs have lost their relevance to me. But NIN's live vitality is unparalleled and unmatched, and I will continue to relish and revel in NIN's sonic glory and visual ecstasy for as long as Trent finds NIN viable and relevant to him.

:-D
Grand Pontiff
NIN-JAH wrote:Overall, I really thought this show was the best he has ever done. I must admit, I was closer to the stage during the Fragility Tour, and could see Trent more clearly (he was higher). Now, please don't flame me for this, but I'm 24 years old now, and 5 years ago when NIN came to the Gardens, I could connect to every lyric. Seeing Trent this time has made me feel a bit older. Some of the lyrics no longer apply to me anymore, and I no longer "feel" them. It was a disillusioning experience, but I guess that's getting older. I wonder how Trent who is close to 40 can connect with his younger sentiments? I must admit, the political bents of "Burn", "Head Like a Hole" and "The Hand that Feeds" continue to stay appealing as timeless works, personally. I think I've just become a more even and grounded person, it comes with becoming and adult I guess, so please don't take it as a criticism of Trent's work. I will continue to see NIN, its just that I feel some of the songs have lost their relevance to me. But NIN's live vitality is unparalleled and unmatched, and I will continue to relish and revel in NIN's sonic glory and visual ecstasy for as long as Trent finds NIN viable and relevant to him.
No worries. The lyrics etc dont have to have any personal meaning/reference/connection to you.

Each fan can be or is different.

His lyrics etc have never had any relevance/connection to me and that also applies to every other artist/band I've listened to. I've been a fan all his (NIN) of these years simply because of the music. He could be singing about "knitting sweaters for poodles" and I'd still be a fan (well maybe not as much as one though). :D If the music sounds good to me then that is all I need.
Troll
the show was incredible...i managed to make my way front and center holding on to the barrier for dear life...march of the pigs was amazing...terrible lie was easily the best song...gave up and wish were soooo great...i managed to give trent a good feelup after he jumped off the stage after gave up...wooow im never washing my hands again...the sound was incredible...ive been to the kool haus a few times and have never heard a band achieve such a great song...dresden dolls were really good too...the drummer is amazing...watpigs was soo cool...overall this is one of the best shows ive ever been to...i will make you hurt.

ps: is there any chance anyone recorded the show...i would love to hear a boot of it...
Great show. I've been a NIN fan for the better part of 10 years, but had never seen them live. I wasn't even moshing, but was still dripping with sweat by the end. I was a little surprised that there wasn't more stuff from The Fragile, but I guess that with all the great songs NIN has, something's gotta go. The light design was pretty cool too.
Bricklayer
damn good show. was right in front of the soundboard, so the sound was perfect. good setlist, although i think trent must be afraid to play a lot of fragile material, which is a shame really because he only played 5 or 6 from the fragile on the fragility tour, it's a double album people!!! really couldv'e used somewhat damaged, or the way out it through... anything. loved no you don't though!

anyway, we met trent after the gig, he was in really good spirits, laughing and joking with us.

great night!
wish i was going tonight as well, but i gave my tix to a friend who wasn't lucky enough to get one. watch them play the fragile in it's entirety tonight:) oh well, autechre tomorrow!!!!

peace
shapeling
Troll
how did you meet trent?
ok, i was at the show last night and it totally fucking rocked. the only complaint i had was that the crowd was totally hostile. by lining up since 4 in the afternoon i managed to be second from front centre. by the time nine inch nails started, i was being squeezed on all four sides and i couldn't breathe or see anything. i had to get out because i was going to pass out. it really pissed me off because i am a huge fan and really wanted to be there in the front. mosh if you want to, but don't be an asshole and ruin it for the people who just want to be up front because they want to be close to the band. moshing should be where it always is, in the middle of the crowd. the front is for the hardcore fans who are willing to wait in line for 4 hours... i was really angry about that. i'm going to tonight's show too and don't even think i'm going to attempt the front, which is so disappointing. i hate that it only takes a few assholes to ruin everything for everybody. the show fucking rocked though, and i'm so excited about seeing it again tonight
Master ad Vitam
Vera, I think your story has deeply touched everyone here, me included. Best of luck in whatever you do. Always feel welcome at ETS.
Decent show, the pre-WT stuff rocked my socks off. I don't care much for WT and I didn't enjoy its songs live. I think only playing one fucking song from The Fragile is fucked. It's one of the greatest albums of all time and he's abandoning it. I expected more from seeing one of my favourite bands live for the first time. Maybe tonight we will get at least TWO FUCKING SONGS from The Fragile.
Site Admin
Maken wrote:Decent show, the pre-WT stuff rocked my socks off. I don't care much for WT and I didn't enjoy its songs live. I think only playing one fucking song from The Fragile is fucked. It's one of the greatest albums of all time and he's abandoning it. I expected more from seeing one of my favourite bands live for the first time. Maybe tonight we will get at least TWO FUCKING SONGS from The Fragile.
Quit yer bitchin'. If you've followed any of the setlists from the other shows, you'll notice a pattern that indicates you'll probably get to hear more of what you want tonight.
Drunkpoet wrote: Quit yer bitchin'. If you've followed any of the setlists from the other shows, you'll notice a pattern that indicates you'll probably get to hear more of what you want tonight.
Yes, I have noticed, and I thought it was fucked right from the beginning. I guess it's too bad I missed the fragility tour, I would have enjoyed it much more than this Awitha Ateetha... ... stuff.
the after show only party was alright. i never did end up seeing trent, i left after an hour and a half. jordie and the rest of the band were busy chasing tail. they didn't care for anything else, so i didn't really bug them. the show was amazing. dresden dolls were pretty good too.
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Prince Adept
Got there about 7:30, said hello to the people I knew on the security staff and milled around before the doors opened. Aaron was watching the Dresden Dolls during their soundcheck. I said "hi" and reminded him not to go TOO nuts onstage. He laughed and said he'd try. Well, evidently he didn't remember! During "Head Like A Hole" when the water bottles were flying all over the place he was hanging upside down from his amp for the longest time. I thought he or it would fall over but he just kept hanging there and then BAM kicked right back into things! What a performer, thanks Aaron!

Really dug the preshow music. "This Wreckage" by Gary Numan was playing just before The Dresden Dolls went on. They got a mixed response: quite a few people (myself included) got into it and others didn't at all. I thought they made a really good opener, bowing to the crowd as the curtain parted to let them on. Standard setlist for this tour ("Good Day", "Bad Habit", "Missed Me", "Coin-Operated Boy", "War Pigs", "Amsterdam", "Half Jack", "Girl Anacronism"), but before "War Pigs" Amanda said it "needs no introduction except to say that whenever we're in Canada, we feel like staying"! For some reason (2 many d00bies) the fire alarm went off during their last song! But everyone ignored that, it was silenced in a few seconds. The Dolls took one last bow, and the pre-show music restarted from the top of the playlist.

Oh yeah, Leo and Rob were wandering around the place before the doors opened, too... I didn't talk to them 'cause they looked busy. After the Dolls played I think the roadies were having problems moving Brian's drumkit offstage, the only house lights they could turn on were behind NIN's curtain so they had to pull it back to see what they were doing. I think we got an early glimpse of the lighting rig before we were supposed to. It was doing this rotating wheel thingy, maybe a test pattern. Leo fooled around with the tambourine a bit while the other guys did some real work. :lol:

Anyway they finished testing everything, finally left the stage and we all stared expectantly. There was a bit of a delay, NIN were a few minutes late going on, I think because they weren't sure how to turn off those damn house lights without making it look obvious. The last preshow song was playing ("Final Solution" by Pere Ubu, if I'm not mistaken) when I heard the background noises in "Pinion" slowly fade up over the entire song! It was a really cool effect, like we were crossfading into a new universe. The house lights went down JUST as the first guitar note of "Pinion" hit. Everyone went nuts, of course, and we got the long, drawn-out, timestretched "Pinion" that I remember from Woodstock '94 bootlegs as the band took the stage one by one.

I pushed forward a bit and started jumping around like a madman for "You Know What You Are?" and almost everyone was screaming the chorus at the top of their lungs! "Sin" was another absolute rush, Aaron's guitar solo was fabulous. "The Line Begins to Blur" hit me like a punch in the f[/i]ace/chest/groin; at first I didn't like that song as much as the rest of With Teeth but now I fuckin' love it. "MotP" was insane of course, I was moshing in 7/8+7/8+7/8+4/4 time and knocking the shit out of anyone who did otherwise (ie everyone). Trent's delayed screams at the end were so fucking intense I thought I would die.

Then we got "Something I Can Never Have." The energy level shifted so swiftly, you'd never notice what happened. There were people around me in tears, because the song was absolutely note-fucking-perfect. Trent made his voice shift behind the beat and catch up with it exactly when he needed to, Jeordie was holding the ostinato piano line down perfectly, Alessandro hit everything at just the right moment, Jerome's drumming took what Chris did on Closure to another level, even Aaron's "drone guitar" at the end was spellbinding.

But we were back up off our knees in seconds flat. I tried desperately to work myself into a frenzy for "The Hand That Feeds" and I would have if I hadn't been so drained by the previous 5 songs. I was destroyed before the band even got going! But this song was terrific, they really kick the shit out of the studio version. Same with "Terrible Lie," Aaron was actually playing "FUCK, YOU" instead of "E, F" chords. "Reptile/Closer" was heavenly and pleased the crowd to no end. I think I saw my future when Aaron started up the intro to "Home." Jerome really is awesome to behold during that track, he's actually holding down a fucking difficult part with ease.

"Burn" was absolute madness. That intro is such a tease, and the ending with both guitarists wailing away after the drums stop is superb. Same level of energy for "With Teeth," although most people around me were caught a bit flatfooted when it kicked back in after the quiet part. Leo didn't quite catch the tambourine when Trent threw it down to play piano, so it rattled on a bit longer than it was supposed to. It's a highlight of the show, and Alessandro's talkbox/guitar work really is fucking awesome to watch and hear. Take that, Charlie!

I let out a loud and probably unnecessary "HOOOOOLY SHIT!!!1" when Alessandro started the piano intro to "Every Day Is Exactly the Same." Jerome was keeping time on the ride cymbal, so for a split second I thought it was "Just Like You Imagined." Silly Botley, don't you know that instrumentals are for weenies? :-o The tambourine was offered to the crowd as a sacrifice, and there was a bit of a struggle for it where it landed! I didn't see Jeordie lose his bass... I'm sure they recovered it afterwards though. Tambourines are a dime a dozen but there were some expensive axes up there!

As I said before: "No, You Don't" blew the goddamn roof off. I've never seen people that worked up at a Toronto show, there were little circles forming with guys thrashing each other shitless. All in good fun though! Where would rock'n'roll be without the occasional riot? "Suck/Gave Up" ramped it up even more, the whole place was absolutely stoked and FUMING! Jeordie's gated guitar outro got fucked up and he kept playing much longer than expected... Trent had to start "Hurt" twice to get people's attention after such a moshfest. It was wicked, I just love the new piano-based arrangement. Fuck everyone who's bored with this song. "Wish" and "Head Like A Hole" left us bloody, sweaty, brutalized... and wanting more.

"NINE INCH NAILS, NINE INCH NAILS, NINE INCH NAILS!"

we'll just have to wait for the next show...

I'm really sorry Vera and I missed each other, I would have liked to have met her. Don't leave us! We love you!
Master of the Ninth Arch
Sorry about the mixup with the meetup after the show at Fionn MacCool's. Turns out they did last call at midnight.

Anywho, Scotland Yard is a pub just two doors down from Fionn MacCool's and is open until 2am if anyone is interested in meeting up tonight after the show.
Here's info on the pub: http://www.toronto.com/profile/146466/
and here's a map: http://www.toronto.com/map?mode=geo&id= ... on=-793735
Master of the Ninth Arch
What an awesome show!!!
-Loved watching Trent play the tambourine in With Teeth and Every Day Is Exactly The Same.
-When he was finished playing the tambourine in EDIETS he tossed it into the crowd
-Aaron North spits alot
-the mosh pit was intense

Here's the setlist I compiled from the show:
1. Pinion
2. You Know What You Are?
3. Sin
4. The Line Begins To Blur
5. March of the Pigs
6. Something I Can Never Have
7. The Hand That Feeds
8. Terrible Lie
9. Reptile
10. Closer
11. Home
12. Burn
13. With Teeth
14. Every Day Is Exactly The Same
15. No, You Don't
16. Gave Up
17. Suck
18. Hurt
19. Wish
20. Head Like A Hole
Prince Adept
Decaying Voice wrote:16. Gave Up
17. Suck
Other way around, dearie! See you tonight?
Master of the Ninth Arch
botley wrote:
Decaying Voice wrote:16. Gave Up
17. Suck
Other way around, dearie! See you tonight?
I'm sure you're right. I just posted them the way I wrote them down. It was kinda hard writing stuff down in the dark and being bumped around by many people. Anyways, it was a great set nonetheless.

For sure I will be there tonight! I can't wait!
Master of the Ninth Arch
ktface wrote:ok, i was at the show last night and it totally fucking rocked. the only complaint i had was that the crowd was totally hostile. by lining up since 4 in the afternoon i managed to be second from front centre. by the time nine inch nails started, i was being squeezed on all four sides and i couldn't breathe or see anything. i had to get out because i was going to pass out. it really pissed me off because i am a huge fan and really wanted to be there in the front. mosh if you want to, but don't be an asshole and ruin it for the people who just want to be up front because they want to be close to the band. moshing should be where it always is, in the middle of the crowd. the front is for the hardcore fans who are willing to wait in line for 4 hours... i was really angry about that. i'm going to tonight's show too and don't even think i'm going to attempt the front, which is so disappointing. i hate that it only takes a few assholes to ruin everything for everybody. the show fucking rocked though, and i'm so excited about seeing it again tonight
Yeah, I feel your pain. In fact, I think I know who you may be... I was third from front centre, and there were a couple of ladies of smaller frame up in front of me, one of whom was pushed out of the crowd after a few songs. She was obviously really into the show, and was fairly excited beforehand, but it got so rough up there so quickly. I kindof expected that to happen, and I'm glad I got to see the band up close (if only for a few songs), but it was a lot worse up front than many people behind realized (I think). We didn't have room to move at all (I barely got an arm up to fend off crowd surfers, and that arm subsequently got locked up in the crowd as I tried to avoid falling over), and breathing was quite an issue.

A friend and I (and a couple other people I know) bussed our way up from Fredericton, NB for the show. I hope 18 hours on the fucking bus gives me some "hardcore fan" credit, haha. Thankfully I'll be living here in TO next year doing my Master's, so it should be easier for me to make the fall tour.

If you are who I think you are (short, brown hair in dreads, red plaid skirt?) and you were in front of me, I hope I didn't crush you too badly - if I did, it certainly wasn't my intention, and I tried to help you out of the crowd as best I could when I saw you trying to get out.

The shirt I wore yesterday, hanging on my door, is still damp with sweat.
Bricklayer
That was all about NIN: The music,
not NIN: the spectacle

NIN: The spectacle..will commence this Fall

off to the big shitty for show #2

(last night was fucking brilliant by the way)
Master Traveler
VeraLynn wrote:Feel free to skip right past this post because I do tend to ramble on about crap that you most likely won't give a damn about and has very little to do with the actual concert. I've always been extremely private but now I'm just gonna spill it so do feel free to skip by.

Confession. (Some of you here already know, however almost no one in my real life knows.)
I'm deaf.
Hearing impaired, more specifically.
I began slowly losing my hearing when I was seven. Over the last several years, there's been a dramatic decline in my hearing and I've now got 96% hearing loss in my right ear, 92% in my left. Most people will probably assume that this means there is no sound and that everything is just really fucking quiet. Not, so. Quite the opposite actually. I haven't heard the sound of silence since I was seven, and yes, I do remember every detail of it. What I hear is all grey noise, distorted, blended together to be overwhelmingly inaudible. That along with the horrendous tinnitus, constant ringing, roaring, and unbearable pressure, drown out the sounds that I might actually like to hear, and make that shirt that I bought back in '95 all the more fitting: Goddamn This Noise Inside My Head.
Anyway, the doctors all agree that the small amount of hearing that I do have left, and that I've learned to get the most out of, will be gone completely within a very short amount of time. What that entails exactly, I'm not sure. Will I finally get the silence that I've been longing for since I was seven or will the audible world around me all become completely and unbearably distorted noise? I guess I will soon find out the answer to that question.

Anyway, music has been such an important part of who I am ever since I was a small child and I've been desperately trying to hold onto that part of me despite the restrictions that I face.
I've been a nin fan since I first heard SICNH in '89. More than just a fan, a super-obsessed Trent fangirl. With the hearing that I do have, (plus kick-ass head phones, a wicked stereo system, an equalizer that I can fuck with to no end, and the aid of two small digital electronic devices that fit quite snug into my ear canals: I am part machine) I've been able to listen to the new album, With Teeth. Everything that I thought it would be. Of course I hear it in a completely different way than the rest of you do though I can't explain it. Trent has always had this miraculous ability to harness all this noise that overwhelms me, tortures me, and he can take it and turn it into something beautiful. Something that I love and can take comfort in.

So I got to hear the new album.
But I wanted more.
I wanted, after all this time, to finally see him perform live. (I've been unfortunate during the last several tours to end up sobbing uncontrollably at home while everyone else got to go to the shows.)
But that's not all. I wanted even more.
I didn't want just to see him perform live, I wanted to hear him.
Too late. I thought. Several years too late in fact.
But then the oddest thing happened. NIN was booked to perform at the Kool Haus in Toronto. A two thousand person club with acoustics that just aren't possible in a venue any larger.
Of course I was just guestimating that the sound quality in a club this size would actually make any difference with regard to me. But it sounded logical. If I wanted this one last chance to hear him, his voice, his music, live, right in front of me, then this was the best opportunity. All I had to do was obtain a ticket, then I would see for myself if my theory was right, maybe I would get the chance to hear something beyond the distorted noise, maybe I'd hear something familiar, something that I'd recognise. Maybe, I'd hear Trent. Live. Just this once. I've been waiting since '89 for this opportunity.

Easier said than done of course.
Seems like a two thousand person venue was ideal for so many others who wanted to attend. Needless to say, when I ended up ticketless, I spent two whole weeks in continuous tears. When people would ask what had happened that put me in such a miserable state, they'd laugh to find out that it was all over just a concert. They could never understand. After a while though, I thought that maybe this was what I needed. I've been hanging onto something that I know I should let go of. It's time to move on. I 'm only hurting myself with this. Stop the denial and just move on already. Get a hobby maybe. What do deaf people do anyway? Maybe I should look it up somewhere, and then start acting accordingly. Maybe I should take up knitting. I've heard good things about the joys of crocheting.

A few days ago, luck was finally on my side, and a ticket mercifully fell right into my lap. Care of Trevlan. BTW, thanks again, Trev. Fuck lame ass hobbies, I want my NIN.

I went to the show tonight. I stood on the top stair, leaning against the rail of the small staircase at the back right-hand side of the venue. Perfect. I could see over everyone's heads. Perfect view. I saw Trent tonight. Stared right at him with my own two eyes. Beautiful.
The music started and he began to sing. I could see his lips, I could read them, I could see him sing. I closed my eyes and I heard him, every word. Breathtaking. And yes, like the sappy, sissy chick I am, I broke down into tears when he sang SICNH, the first NIN song I'd ever heard back when I was just a kid listening to my older sister's tapes. I recognised them all. Every song in the setlist, right from the first notes played, I could hear them, my way, I knew which ones they were, I recognised the songs that even the people around me had no idea of. What a fucking amazing show.

So to the details of the show, finally.

While I was waiting beside the merch booth, I saw Leo. I was too shy to say hello though. He looked right at me. Really he did. He must have known I recognised him. I wish I had at least said hi. Then I saw Rob walk by. Definitely a very good looking fellow.

Dresden Dolls were fantastic. The drummer is amazing. The crowd seemed subdued, but welcoming toward them.

Again I saw Rob, he and another man stood right in front of me for at least ten minutes. They looked at me, looking at them. Really. True story. Again though, I was just too insecure to say even a hello. He wasn't even busy at the time, he was just hanging out. It probably wouldn't have been too much of a bother if I'd said hello. But I'm a chicken. And maybe it would have been extremely bothersome to him. So I let him be. I even looked away when he noticed I was looking at him, I didn't want to make him feel uncomfortable or anything. Plus I can read lips so looking at two people talking is liken to eavesdropping, I felt guilt. Damn Jiminy.

Anyway, NAILS took the stage!!!! Botley's set list is correct.
I saw botley too BTW, did I mention that I'm a chicken. Sorry I didn't say hello botley. You look really good with short hair. You should consider keeping it that way. The crowd was a little subdued, but then, so was the band. It must have been the unbearable heat. Damn it was hot and there was no air!! I wasn't anywhere near the pit, yet I spent most of the show fanning myself with a piece of paper just to stop myself from fainting. Thanks for the bottle of water at the exact right moment Trevlan.

Everything about the show was incredible. Trent looked and sounded unbelievable. It was a night that I've been waiting for, for almost 16 years and it didn't let me down in the least bit. I only wish that I could do it all again tomorrow, I'd gladly put up with the heat again. Everyone headed out to the show tomorrow is sure to be blown away, and destroyed. Enjoy.
Anyway, I'm finally ready to let go and move on. So this is my last post to ETS. VeraLynn quits ETS. But I leave on an unbelievably high note. Maybe I will try knitting.
No, not likely but I'm sure I'll figure something out.
Chao.

~Vera
wow...FUCKING WOW...i didn't go to the show last night but am going tonight. (((HUGZ))) This is so inspirational. You are one special person.
Grand Pontiff
Vera, touching story. You kind of remind me that deaf girl in Manson's book who said she could feel the music rather than hear it. I'm happy for you :)

Crazy night indeed... We left Montreal on Monday morning at 4AM... We got in Toronto at 1PM, waited in line for like 7 hours, then we drove back to Montreal right away, arrived a 7 in the morning, and I still havent slept...

The Dresden Dolls was amazing... I kept screaming for "Bad Habbit"... Amanda obviously heard me, but didn't mind. She prefered smiling to the gay couple beside me that screamed "I love you Amanda". Anyway, they were great... I was just kinda shocked by how hairy she was... Especially during Amsterdam with her beer held so high... Damn I can swear she had hairier armpits then Trent's. But anyway... Once again the drummer is really great, amazing stage presence from both of them.

Now, NIN... I wouldn't go as far as saying it's the best show I've seen all my life, but it's definitely in my top 5! Highlights for me were: You know what you are (really an amazing opener), The Line Begins to Blur (which I feared wouldn't be as good live because of all the effects, but it turned out it was the other way around), March of the Pigs (I felt back in 94, seeing all that fury, and Trent falling off the monitor and getting back up as if nothing had happened at all, really the best song of the evening for me), Hurt (Yeah... Can't believe I cried... I couldn't help it. I went back to the time my friends started to turn back on me and I had this sort of depression and I couldn't stop listening to Hurt. Basically I went to hear this song live, and it was so perfect, I can't believe people were actually speaking during it) and Wish (the FIST FUCK part so cool). Other songs I was really happy to hear were: Burn, Reptile, Terrible, Something I can never have. I was kinda dissapointed with Every is exactly the same. Maybe I expected too much from it. Or maybe it was because I was too close to the bass and had a hard time hearing the melodies.

About Twiggy throwing his bass in the crowd... Well actually, it wasn't a bass, it was a guitar during Head like a hole and it happened right in front of me. But nobody kept it, actually, the guitar tech and a security guy got it back from the crowd.

I was also very impressed with lights, I wasn't expecting this much in such a tiny venue. Cool stuff.

If anybody has more pics, please share them :)
well you have all officially made we want to hang myself for missing such a great show. I wanted to see Burn, Reptile, anything from Broken, and Sin, and boy would they have ever delivered. But the trip from Calgary was to proven to be to much for my roadtrip partner to handle so I couldnt make it myself. Definatly sucks major ass to be me!! But hey at least I have 2 mint tickets to look at for the rest of my life. :?
Overall, easilly the best show I've ever been in. I had some friends at the back taking photos while I went in to the pit for the majority of the night. I managed to get over the crowd for With Teeth and Wish and even got to touch Trent's guitar at the end of Gave Up!

Was it just me, or did the burly security guard in front of Trent look like he was about to slap all of us as we went over the barrier?
Bricklayer
What a great fucking show!

DD were pretty good. They totally exceeded my expectations and playing War Pigs was awesome. Sounded great. Cool stage presence and a sick drummer.

NIN came on so fucking strong. What a great couple of songs to start off with. The only thing that pissed me off were the assholes who began to push like crazy to get in when people have been waiting in line for hours before. Not cool at all, especially going in front of some of the shorter chicks in the crowd.

But anyways, Something I Can Never Have was just amazing and Wish and MotP was so fucking hype and crazy. So much energy. Sheridan was on the stage the whole time basically videotaping Jeordie and Alessandro.. maybe something might come from that.

Also I think Trent said "This is the new song" before playing Home if i'm not mistaken.

Talked to Leo a bit after the show and asked him if he could hook me up with something (first i asked for a setlist and he said he's not allowed to give those out or something) but I got nothing in the end. Still a cool guy.

Overall it was a really sick show. My wet green radiohead shirt and new NIN shirt are soaking wet still same with my APC hat.

I hope todays show is just as good.
After deciding to sell my tickets to the show on the 10th (justification = i live in Ottawa, am broke, don't drive, not a fan of With Teeth)...I tried to refrain from reading these reviews.

*sigh* goddamit, I can't believe they are playing Reptile now. A few years ago, I used to sit around with friends, usually on some hullucinogen listening to TDN very loudly and intensly and Reptile was the song that was so warped, and so brilliant that I always loved hearing it and dreamed of it live. Now I'll miss it. Oh well, have an amazing time for anyone who is attending tonight.

You Lucky Fucks,

Anagrama
What a great show and what an awsome venue .. it was so shallow but wide.. it was like no matter where you stood trent was in your frick'n living room...

Was in line a few people in front of a bunch of ya (saw trentisinmypants in particular) .. lemme tell u he was in all our pants.. lol

and it was hot as hell.. the second highlight (other than the show itself) was all the lil goth-kiddie punks who passed out before the show even started... passed out before the moshing begin lol..

Some high school girl behind me payed $240 for a ticket.. crazy... this venue has the funniest scalpers..

Another highlight.. there was like a 80 year old geezer standing to the right of me.. was funny..

Dresdon dolls were good but the last few songs I was getting impatient...

Cya all at his next T.O. show.. wish I had bought tickets for Tuesday :\
Knight of the Royal Axe
Finally back home in San Diego. Lovely show, but again such a hot venue. I know i was wearing a hoodie, but i needed that so i could record the show....which ended up not happening due to dead batteries :( Even if i didnt have the hoodie on, it would have been hot as all hell in that place. Botly, why didnt you say hello? Would have been nice to meet another person from ETS. Veralyn and Trevlin were the nicest people ever.....Canada is full of friendly people too and the city is VERY clean. Id love to go back there any day, who knows....maybe when NIN comes around again? lol :)
Master of the Ninth Arch
Arc|Angel wrote:What a great show and what an awsome venue .. it was so shallow but wide.. it was like no matter where you stood trent was in your frick'n living room...

Was in line a few people in front of a bunch of ya (saw trentisinmypants in particular) .. lemme tell u he was in all our pants.. lol

and it was hot as hell.. the second highlight (other than the show itself) was all the lil goth-kiddie punks who passed out before the show even started... passed out before the moshing begin lol..

Some high school girl behind me payed $240 for a ticket.. crazy... this venue has the funniest scalpers..

Another highlight.. there was like a 80 year old geezer standing to the right of me.. was funny..

Dresdon dolls were good but the last few songs I was getting impatient...

Cya all at his next T.O. show.. wish I had bought tickets for Tuesday :\
why didn't you say Hi!?? that's like 3 ppl that said they saw him which means you seen me and vera lynn, but yet no one says Hi..lol i think bootly also. but eh were all adults.. right? lmao! at the 80 year old. didn't yuo see his wife or mother passed by in the car??? lmao! she stopped and waved and said "another hour dear" oh what about the bum with the cops.. our "next mayor" that was classic. but yea just like 2 others who were supposed to call my cell to meet up. does it matter what we lok lie? who we are? we aare all here for one reason and one reason alone. TRENT AND NIN, must we hide behind something? hoping others won't look behind?

P.S. yes i'm a Hoser but i'm damn proud of it Eh!

Trev
Bricklayer
still buzzing over the show monday. met great ppl in the lineup, which made the 4+ hour wait fly by. Can't wait for the tour video to come out...
Knight of the Royal Axe
Arc|Angel wrote: Was in line a few people in front of a bunch of ya (saw trentisinmypants in particular) .. lemme tell u he was in all our pants.. lol

I dont get it......*scratches head* how am i in all of your pants?
Trevlan wrote: why didn't you say Hi!??

Heh sorry. I wasn't think'n right between anticipation and time going so freak'n slow in the line... The mother driving by was awsome .. even better then the mayor and his story of his holes...

In hindsite I wonder if the geezer was someones chaparone it was pretty funny.. bout 20 mins in he disappeared.. hopefully not into the pit..

Anyone see the girl who got on some dudes shoulders and took off her clothes during closer? Lol
Trevlan wrote: why didn't you say Hi!??

Heh sorry. I wasn't think'n right between anticipation and time going so freak'n slow in the line... The mother driving by was awsome .. even better then the mayor and his story of his holes...

In hindsite I wonder if the geezer was someones chaparone it was pretty funny.. bout 20 mins in he disappeared.. hopefully not into the pit..

Anyone see the girl who got on some dudes shoulders and took off her clothes during closer? Lol
Bricklayer
Here are a few images from the show, please excuse the rather grainy quality but I was working with a dodgey disposable camera and it was quite bumpy in the front row! Enjoy!

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Prince Adept
I apologize for not talking to any of you on this night, I honestly didn't recognize anyone from ets (I knew TIMP would wear the hoodie because he said so before), I just hung out with my buddies from school.
Master Traveler
I just got back from toronto not too long ago.
The show was definitely amazing! I was about 4 rows back at the beginning of the show (during the DD). I was very impressed with their performance...so coordinated.
When NIN came on, I got pushed/shoved a lot. My friend was like "ahhhh!!! I can't breath, and it's hot, I need to get out of here". She ended up going to the back, with a pretty good view, and she enjoyed it a lot.
While, trying to find out what she was saying, I got pushed into the pit, and was being spun around for a little bit, and eventually clawed my way out of there. I ended up being near the amps on the right. I had a good view from there, except I couldn't see jerome.
I'd say it was a superly awesome good show. It was my first NIN experience, and I certainly hope it's not my last. I met some cool people at the show as well...don't think anyone from ets though... :\
I took some pictures, but I have yet to get them developed. Hopefully some turn out, and I'll post for all to see. :)
Grand Pontiff
VeraLynn wrote:touching story
Yeah, yeah. I know I am about 2 pages late, but this is the best post I have ever read on ETS. Thank you for sharing VeraLynn. I hope you get another chance to see NIN.
Master Traveler
divine_debris wrote:Here are a few images from the show, please excuse the rather grainy quality but I was working with a dodgey disposable camera and it was quite bumpy in the front row! Enjoy!


whoa me and trent were both wearin the same shirt in those first two pics :O



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Master of the Ninth Arch
Does anyone else know about Chris Martin of Coldplay attending this show wearing a hooded shirt to keep himself inconspicuous. My friend saw Chris and went up to him and tapped him on the shoulder, Chris looked very surprised then my friend said something like "it's nice to see you appreciate good music".

In case you didn't know, Coldplay is playing a show at the KoolHaus tonight - Wed.May12th.
Bricklayer
In short, the show was great, I loved every second of it, and meeting Trent (though briefly) after the show was the hightlight of the night. If any one recorded the show, please do tell and share (pm me).
Hope everyone else had a great time too. Can't wait till the fall!
Bricklayer
For my money...Monday night was the better show.

Better set list...better sound.

(and I wasn't quite as stoned) 8)
Knight of the Royal Axe
just in case you guys wanted a picture of the venue, here you go.....

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Prince Adept
I like their logo so much.

Yes, that is the CN tower sticking out from behind...
Master of the Ninth Arch
I traveled to Toronto and attended both shows. I would have posted earlier, but I just got home. The first night was really good, but not as intense as the second night. THere seemed to be more energy in the crowd for the second night. I was happy to hear something I can never have and I have to admit that there were some tears involved. The one thing that I wanted to point out on the board is that Canadians are really very nice, very pleasnt people. Being from the US I was expecting the typical crowd of angry asshole concert goers, but you Canadians are fucking NICE PEOPLE. I got kicked in the eye by a crowd surfer and the instant that it happened like three people around me grabbed me to inspect my eye and make sure that I wasn't bleeding. Something like that would NEVER happen in the states. If that had happened here the three or four people next to me would do nothing but be happy it did not happen to them. Also the crowd was very active about geting people out of the front if they couldn't take the pressure. I applaud all of the Canadians that were in the crowd at both shows. Thank you for having such a nice counrty where people are very hospitable. It really added to my experience.
Master Traveler
Awww...shucks... :oops: You're making me blush!!! :P
Master of the Ninth Arch
BBFS wrote:Also the crowd was very active about geting people out of the front if they couldn't take the pressure. I applaud all of the Canadians that were in the crowd at both shows. Thank you for having such a nice counrty where people are very hospitable. It really added to my experience.
Thanks very much for the kind words.

Yeah, it was nice that when I wanted to get out of the pit people were kind enough to let me through - it got pretty intense in there.
what a good show. i managed to get front row, right in front of jeordie. such good times.

i was worried about having to go alone (none of my friends appreciate nin enough to pay 50 bucks and wait 5 hours in line), but i met lots of fab people in line. if you were nice to a single gal in a moneen shirt, then thanks. hehe.

i'm so glad i was able to go to this one, i can't wait for the larger venue show as well!
Decaying Voice wrote:
BBFS wrote:Also the crowd was very active about geting people out of the front if they couldn't take the pressure. I applaud all of the Canadians that were in the crowd at both shows. Thank you for having such a nice counrty where people are very hospitable. It really added to my experience.
Thanks very much for the kind words.

Yeah, it was nice that when I wanted to get out of the pit people were kind enough to let me through - it got pretty intense in there.
Thats pretty typical in Canada. In big mosh pits if somebody falls while crowd surfing, everyone gets out of the way to let them up.
PLEASE tell me somebody got a bootleg of this show!!!
(I try to collect a bootleg of every concert I go to)
ktface wrote: the front is for the hardcore fans who are willing to wait in line for 4 hours...
haha...4 hours? that's nothing. I got there at 10pm SUNDAY night.
Bricklayer
front row center right infront of trent for the entire show. ribs are still bruised and damn the pain was worth it. waiting in line since 5 in the morning paid off as soon as the band took the stage and reznor became within five feet of me. definitely the best show i've ever been too. so hot that i was about to pass out but like hell was i going to give up my position. no one was able to get the tamborine. it fell down by security and they threw it back on stage those bastards. great setlist, wish i was able to make it to the second show to have seen more of the fragile being played, but im quite content with what we were served. still buzzing about the show. 80 bucks for a zip up though, that was ridiculous, but i still had to pick one up. cant wait to see them in the fall. off to see mars in montreal tomorrow night, should be amazing.
hey to the one who stayed there the night, im sure i met you in line, not sure which one of the four you were though.
Grand Pontiff
Just got back from Toronto, attending both shows.
AMAZING TIME, i'm posting in this one 'cause I like this show the better of the 2.

Hmm, This setlist was killer, PINION, SIN, SOMTHING I CAN NEVER HAVE, EVERYDAY IS EXACTALLY THE SAME...
wow, It was awesome!
I was front and center against the barrier for the whole show and all i can say is OUCH ha, the crowd was killer, i have these beautiful 4 inch red "burn/bruises" from the barrier, hah but it was worth it, just wish i brought a damn Camera to the first show!!! coulda got soem insane photos from front row!!!!!

Hmm, The best part of the first show was durning MARCH OF THE PIGS, Trent started going nuts and he ran over and started attacking Jeordie and doing the good old wrap him up in the mic cord stunt and then I donno what happened, but he must have pulled some cords out because there was a short interlude between the next song and Trent comes to the mic and just says "woops" haha it was awesome!!!!

Durning YKWYA some fucktard from the crowd through a bottle at Aaron, you shoulda seen the pissed off look on his face, looked like he was ready to stop and just kick some ass.
Master of the Ninth Arch
i got 2 pics, nothing great from a camera phone but.. i don't know where to upload them or how. ne one help me out ? please and thx
nwimnthng0 wrote:front row center right infront of trent for the entire show. ribs are still bruised and damn the pain was worth it. waiting in line since 5 in the morning paid off as soon as the band took the stage and reznor became within five feet of me. definitely the best show i've ever been too. so hot that i was about to pass out but like hell was i going to give up my position. no one was able to get the tamborine. it fell down by security and they threw it back on stage those bastards. great setlist, wish i was able to make it to the second show to have seen more of the fragile being played, but im quite content with what we were served. still buzzing about the show. 80 bucks for a zip up though, that was ridiculous, but i still had to pick one up. cant wait to see them in the fall. off to see mars in montreal tomorrow night, should be amazing.
hey to the one who stayed there the night, im sure i met you in line, not sure which one of the four you were though.

haha...yeah Im quite sure i know who you are...Smith Falls? I was the girl with the redish hair.
Master of the Ninth Arch
My friend here snagged one of Jerome's drum sticks after the first show. He is wondering what anyone here would do for it.
Absolutly fucking nothing.
Bricklayer
I saw him get that stick. I can't believe he wants to get rid of it. I want it! PM me. :)
Master of the Ninth Arch
He does not want to get rid of it, he is just a jerk and asked me to post this. . .I don't know why I did. . .
Master of the Ninth Arch
By the way, I could not spot anyone from ETS out. . .
What were you wearing/look-like? I was wearing a white TOOL shirt with an eye on the back of it. I am 5'6" with short blonde hair. Did anyone here see me?
Grand Pontiff
off to see mars in montreal tomorrow night, should be amazing.
Cool... I'm seeing them there too... Pretty busy week. I've been on the road for the last 3 days :P
I guess it's worth it though...

I meet some people from Saskatchewan waiting line (we were the 2 french jerks struggling to speak english). You guys there?

I was wearing a Marilyn Manson hoodie...
1. did anyone lose a shoe, and instead of finding their own, pick up a greenish DC skate shoe and take it home?

2. did any of you get spat on by trent when someone threw their water bottle at him?
Bricklayer
that's IT for pics?? :?
Bricklayer
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Bricklayer
H wrote:Vera

If you read this - you should try and send that post to soemone in the NIN camp. I think reading that would mean more to them than $$'s, chart positions, awards, etc, etc.

Take care.
I agree!!!
Bricklayer
Decaying Voice wrote:
BBFS wrote:Also the crowd was very active about geting people out of the front if they couldn't take the pressure. I applaud all of the Canadians that were in the crowd at both shows. Thank you for having such a nice counrty where people are very hospitable. It really added to my experience.
Thanks very much for the kind words.

Yeah, it was nice that when I wanted to get out of the pit people were kind enough to let me through - it got pretty intense in there.
I haven't been to a show in Canada where we haven't helped anyone out. In most cases, it's all we do. We trade spots so everyone gets to see. Take the pictures for those who have cameras and can't reach high enough. "Surf" people out if they're not doing so good. If there ever is a fight or an issue, 99% of the time it's a drunk, stoner, or over zealous security guard at the heart of it all. I'm not rying to paint us Canadians as saints but that's how it should be. We all deserve to enjoy the show.
Bricklayer
I'm trying to post a few of the pics we got from the show...nothing is working now so I'll attempt this again in the morning...We were at the Monday night show...completely amazing! It still seems so unbelievable that we were able to see Trent so close in the flesh!! I can't even remember every detail of the night so it is great reading all of these posts to refresh my memory (I was in shock... :shock: lol) Last time we saw them was at MLG for the Fragility Tour, live with teeth totally kicked ass!!! If anyone has any bootlegs from the show...please contact me!!!
Master Traveler
Here are some crappy disposable cam pics from the monday night show :)

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I forgot, I got those too, these were taken from backstage, me and my friend manage to get ourselves backstage because it was her birthday. Aaron and Alessandro were kind enough to let us took picture of them :)
Backstage party was like 35 goth-girls, 4 or 5 guys and the band members, Trent didnt show up so I left backstage earlier... and by miracle showed up outside like 15 minutes after, I was so freakin' glad I left backstage, even tho it sound kinda stupid. So anyway i'm still waiting for Trent's pic we got outside, i'll update when I get them.

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Bricklayer
Here are a few pics that semi turned out from the Monday night show! :)
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Bricklayer
Hi all.

I was there the first night (Monday). I was front and centre 3 bodies back. I could not write anything down let alone move my arms.

I have read through all posts from both nights.

I would really love it if someone could just post the set lists from both nights.

I guess I am just confused from reading them all.

AgentOrange seems to have it straight but did list same songs on both nights when he was pointing out differences.

Thank you all. It was a great show.
Bricklayer
Amortys wrote:I forgot, I got those too, these were taken from backstage, me and my friend manage to get ourselves backstage because it was her birthday. Aaron and Alessandro were kind enough to let us took picture of them :)
Backstage party was like 35 goth-girls, 4 or 5 guys and the band members, Trent didnt show up so I left backstage earlier... and by miracle showed up outside like 15 minutes after, I was so freakin' glad I left backstage, even tho it sound kinda stupid. So anyway i'm still waiting for Trent's pic we got outside, i'll update when I get them.

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Nice pictures, but I think you're a bit confused - neither of those guys are Alessandro.
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Master Traveler
nice pics indeed. Very cool that you got to meet them. :)
Prince Adept
Amortys wrote:I forgot, I got those too, these were taken from backstage, me and my friend manage to get ourselves backstage because it was her birthday. Aaron and Alessandro were kind enough to let us took picture of them :)
Backstage party was like 35 goth-girls, 4 or 5 guys and the band members, Trent didnt show up so I left backstage earlier... and by miracle showed up outside like 15 minutes after, I was so freakin' glad I left backstage, even tho it sound kinda stupid. So anyway i'm still waiting for Trent's pic we got outside, i'll update when I get them.

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I'm a guy, and all, but you are so damn lucky to have Jerome's drumming arms around you. What in hell were you thinking? Gees.
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Clocksrun wrote:
Amortys wrote:I forgot, I got those too, these were taken from backstage, me and my friend manage to get ourselves backstage because it was her birthday. Aaron and Alessandro were kind enough to let us took picture of them :)
Backstage party was like 35 goth-girls, 4 or 5 guys and the band members, Trent didnt show up so I left backstage earlier... and by miracle showed up outside like 15 minutes after, I was so freakin' glad I left backstage, even tho it sound kinda stupid. So anyway i'm still waiting for Trent's pic we got outside, i'll update when I get them.

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I'm a guy, and all, but you are so damn lucky to have Jerome's drumming arms around you. What in hell were you thinking? Gees.
I do wonder how anyone could mix up Alessandro and Jerome. Oh well ;)
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Oh yeah you're totally right, :? I'm still confuse why I wrote Alessandro
Master of the Ninth Arch
Thanks for posting all the reviews guys! I unfortunately, couldn't acquire any tickets this time around but you guys made me feel as if I was there! The pictures were fucking awesome, and the vivid descriptions were a great substitute! Also, it was great hearing of all of my fellow Canadians helping out others in need! That's one of the best things about Canadian concerts, everyone's so freakin generous!

I look forward to the fall tour.. hope to be seeing you all there.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Desecrated wrote:Thanks for posting all the reviews guys! I unfortunately, couldn't acquire any tickets this time around but you guys made me feel as if I was there! The pictures were fucking awesome, and the vivid descriptions were a great substitute! Also, it was great hearing of all of my fellow Canadians helping out others in need! That's one of the best things about Canadian concerts, everyone's so freakin generous!

I look forward to the fall tour.. hope to be seeing you all there.
Excuse me for butting in here since i didn't go to this show, ha neither did you, i couldn't help noticing your s/n, but what i want to say here is - maybe you should think of an original s/n instead of ripping off mine!

Nice pictures of Jerome and Aaron, Amortys you are so lucky to have gone to a party with those extremely handsome NIN men!!!
Does anyone else remember Love is not enough being played? I swear they played that song on Monday. No one has posted about it. :x
Grand Pontiff
Front Fucking Center! I have officially been destroyed.

nothing more needs to be said.
Bricklayer
Patrick wrote:Does anyone else remember Love is not enough being played? I swear they played that song on Monday. No one has posted about it. :x
You may be confusing it with Every Day is Exactly the Same. They never played Love is not Enough on either night. I'm not sure they've played it on this tour at all to be honest.
Prince Adept
Yeah, they have. Maybe they'll play it when they come back in the fall.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Hey asshole, I didn't rip off anyones name - I joined a few days ago, so I didn't even see your name. Pretty lame if you ask me, bitching about a screen name, get over it.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Likely story thieving LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad to see you got your panties all in a ruffle though, made my day!
Master of the Ninth Arch
Yeah, I've always got good form. A fullfilling Source of amusement for everyone.
Bricklayer
enough bitching and someone post a link to the audio already, or at least pm me about something. i need to hear this show again.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Hey all.
I am a little embarrassed about the sappiness of my original post but I was in a rather euphoric state of mind at the time. (**Fucking amazing concert! Whooo!!**)
I really appreciate all the feedback I've received, both in this thread and via pm. Though I would like to clear something up; I didn't make my 'confession' to elicit any form of sympathy. That should be saved for someone who really deserves it. I'm an incredibly happy person and I have no complaints at all. My intent was to express how much this whole nin experience has meant, because it really has just meant the world to me.

Thanks for all the kind words, I especially liked the Shawshank Redemption quote. It's a great movie and I took note of that particular scene when I first watched it. Great quote. As well, that member also wrote about how not to take anything for granted - touching - and when put in context with his username, it added a wonderful level of hilarity. Thank you... ummm... 'ungratefulfuck'.
Sorry for high jacking so much of this thread.

Cheers.
~Vera

**Oh, Amortys, you promised more pics. Don't feel bad about the name mix-up, it could happen to the... well no, but still, no one here really cares.
Master of the Ninth Arch
My point exactly..Vera.
Master of the Ninth Arch
That's boss. Great review, captures what the shows are all about.
Grand Pontiff
Poster that was taped to the barrier in front of center of stage. It is in post-concert condition. I kept it in my boot through the show.
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Master of the Ninth Arch
Mmm, Trent's looking mighty tasty. I'm glad you posted them. :lol:
Troll
Those guitar picks are so fucking cool.

I want some :(
Bricklayer
so let me get this straight. no one on this board has a bootleg of torontos first night? am i understanding this, please someone prove me wrong.
Dont know if there is a bootleg, but im downloading a torrent with 7 video clips from the show (digicam) video clips from 7 songs.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Lateralus wrote:Dont know if there is a bootleg, but im downloading a torrent with 7 video clips from the show (digicam) video clips from 7 songs.
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 1 You Know What You Are
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 2 The Line Begins To Blur
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 3 The Hand That Feeds
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 4 Reptile
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 5 Closer
2005.05.09 in Toronto [Koolhaus] 6 With_Teeth
i got clips of these songs, not that great but better then nothing.. and so far only bootleg is horrible...
Bricklayer
This looks so impressive. I wish I could have gone.
Bricklayer
Wow, this sounded like quite the show. I couldn't get tickets to this one, but lord, it sounds amazing.
If anyone knows where to get any mp3s of this show please email me.
lowtek@madmanmail.com
or
acidevil_@hotmail.com

I met Trent on Queen street and he gave my girlfriend and I tickets and VIP Backstage passes. He also signed some shit and we got our picture taken.
Woo!
Must be weird having people come up and wanting to get their picture taken with you. I'm not from Toronto but it seems like everytime I go there random strangers want to take my picture or pose with me. At Canadas Wonderland I felt like one of the friggen idiots in the suits...like Scooby Doo or Fred Flintstone. vat-ze-fuk?

Anyway...point made..it musta be weird.
Grand Pontiff
Minor Tom wrote:Must be weird having people come up and wanting to get their picture taken with you. I'm not from Toronto but it seems like everytime I go there random strangers want to take my picture or pose with me. At Canadas Wonderland I felt like one of the friggen idiots in the suits...like Scooby Doo or Fred Flintstone. vat-ze-fuk?

Anyway...point made..it musta be weird.

hahaha, years ago I had this happen to me numerous times in Toronto. At Casaloma once I was approached I believe 3 times in about 30 seconds. *shakes head* tourists...
Amortys wrote:I forgot, I got those too, these were taken from backstage, me and my friend manage to get ourselves backstage because it was her birthday. Aaron and Alessandro were kind enough to let us took picture of them :)
Backstage party was like 35 goth-girls, 4 or 5 guys and the band members, Trent didnt show up so I left backstage earlier... and by miracle showed up outside like 15 minutes after, I was so freakin' glad I left backstage, even tho it sound kinda stupid. So anyway i'm still waiting for Trent's pic we got outside, i'll update when I get them.

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Are you the one who gave Aaron that hicky? I remember after the show seeing him and thinking how red that sucker was. :twisted: suckysucky
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Master of the Ninth Arch
jayjay wrote:Are you the one who gave Aaron that hicky? I remember after the show seeing him and thinking how red that sucker was. :twisted: suckysucky
Are you a friend that's making some sort of insider jab at her?
Or are you just being an ass towards this girl?

I love the assumption that male fans who get backstage are there because it's cool to be able to meet and 'hang' with their idols but female fans are always and only there to starfuck.
Not every female fan is a groupie, and your assumption that this particular chick is, is based on what logic? The cutesy poses? Guess what, Aaron and Jerome normally pose like that in pics with their female fans. It makes for cute pictures.
mymy aren't we testy. Of course women can get backstage without performing 'favours' or whatever but yeah we DO live in a world where almost everyone thinks if a chick gets back stage she has to be incredibly hot or bobbin' knobs. But that didn't even cross my mind when I looked at the photo. I was joking holy shit. And I don't know I never saw photos of aaron and jerome with female fans , and what does that have to do with anything.. her poses don't look bad if that's what you thought I was getting at. He had a hicky on his neck cause I friggin' saw it, it's not that hard to spot a hicky on a pale white dude and I was only playin'around.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I was joking holy shit.
So suggesting that this woman (that you don't know anything about besides the fact the she got backstage), is a slut, is what you consider to be a joke?
...whatever but yeah we DO live in a world where almost everyone thinks if a chick gets back stage she has to be incredibly hot or bobbin' knobs
Speak for yourself, not everyone is an idiot.

According to your logic, women have to be hot and/or whores to get backstage; as opposed to their male counterparts who get to go backstage just because they're cool?
Does your mother know this is the way you view women?
how the hell is that suggesting she's a slut? Your blowing this thing way out of proportion. It was a joke. Nobody has ever made a semi sexual joke towards you without implying your the biggest ho? I find that hard to believe. People poke innocent fun at one another all the time. It's not like I said "Hey you whore nice hicky you gave Aaron". Please the NIN backstage area and crew and whatnot were notorious for mistreating women and making them do ridiculous things just so get backstage. Am I saying it's right? No. But that's what happens. I'm not gonna defend this anymore because it's just going to go in circles. In short I wasn't calling her a slut I was merely crackin' a joke she was standing next to him with this big hicky blazing on his neck..if some people are touchy about certain things than I respect that.
And more women than men are allowed backstage.
Not that this has much to do with the topic...(although normally i would be on the front line for be berating someone for implying all women are sluts...i do think this guy was joking.)
ANYWAY my reason for posting:
Did anyone else hear that the security guards were given a bunch of passes to hand out, but only to girls with huge boobs. A security guard actually told me that they were told if the pass didn't fit on the clevage she doesn't get a pass.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? I almost puked when I heard that.
Oh yeah..I'm totally not surprised. In fact that's probably not the worst they do. In reality many women who get backstage is because they are hot or willing to perform favors for crew and band members. If you think they are gonna just let any chick back there just because she's such a big fan think again. I'm sure that has happened before like perhaps in this instance, i truly doubt she did anything with any of the band members.. but is the girl in the photo the least bit unattractive? I'd say no. She's a cute girl. Come on look at the attendance of the party. 35 goth girls...4 dudes and the band. Haha. Think about it..you have this young cute girl completely willing to "do anything" to just get backstage and they are allowed to give out a couple passes what do you think the average joe who thinks with his dick is gonna do? Also I heard friends of a certain NIN bandmate got a few extra passes and was going around gettin' girls to do ridiculous things to get one. It happens all the time and mainly to women. Many women are willing to do anything just to have a brush with one of these dudes and like I said I wasn't implying that this girl was one of them I was joking and I'm glad somebody got it.
Well I do agree that many women are willing to do anything for a pass...I also think many guys would do anything...If Trent was a female any guy would be all up on giving head. But since Trent ISN'T a female..it's to be assumed he doesnt want a guy to suck his dick (although i'm sure more than a few
-even straight- guys would love the opertunity.)
basically what i'm saying is...it's not womens fault they are the only ones given the oppertunity to look like an idiot while they degrade themselves for a pass.
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I see what your saying but I think women in bands is different. I mean do you really think if a girl wasn't in a band she wouldn't ever get laid? It's way easier for you girls to get some. Besides most female performers don't live that lifestyle of backstage one night stands as much as men do but were gonna get into the whole men can seperate sex and love more than women can. The female groupie species is a lot bigger than the male groupie species.
Bricklayer
any bootleg of this show yet, someone please tell me theres something out there, i cant wait until november to see them again. if there is anything please email me: krypton369@hotmail.com
Grand Inspector
Heya

If anyone has a spare litho for this date, I will buy it for very good money!!! Please pm me

Many Thanks

Christo

or email me @ christo_geoghegan_2@yahoo.co.uk
Master Traveler
this was the best show I have been in my life.

( haha yeah I am posting this months later )

the 2nd best was ... radiohead in 2003