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2005/06/25 - Oberhausen, GER [Area 4 Festival]

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2005/06/25 - Oberhausen, GER [Area 4 Festival]
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Bricklayer
a friend of mine was there, sending me the setlist per cell phone. she also let me hear hurt on the phone :wink:

intro
wish
sin
march of the pigs
the line begins to blur
something i can never have
the hand that feeds
terrible lie
burn
closer
something from fragile (she didnt know what it was)
love is not enough
gave up
suck
hurt
you know what you are
starfuckers
head like a hole
Master Traveler
with tired eyes wrote:a friend of mine was there, sending me the setlist per cell phone. she also let me hear hurt on the phone :wink:

intro
wish
sin
march of the pigs
the line begins to blur
something i can never have
the hand that feeds
terrible lie
burn
closer
something from fragile (she didnt know what it was)
love is not enough
gave up
suck
hurt
you know what you are
starfuckers
head like a hole
"something from the fragile" = Big Comedown
I don't remember the intro being played... Jerome was on drums before the rest got onstage. I was in front and the first 2 drumbeats of wish didn't come through the speakers, I only heard them directly from the stage...
Master of the Ninth Arch
i think the setlist is correct - yup, it was "the big comedown" THANK YOU NIN FOR PLAYING THIS SONG !!!!!!!!!! i did not expect it and it was a great surprise, always loved this song, never heard it live!
again also "burn" was one of my personal highlights... also "the line begins to blur".

during the quiet part in "starfuckers" trent said something to the audience, correct me if i am wrong but he said that this festival was one of the nicest german festivals they had played so far....
and he mentioned "southside" but did not understand what he was saying ... :?

they all seemed to be in a good mood (?) i stood between jeordie & trent ... 2nd - 3rd row i'd guess ... what a blast ....
trent threw waterbottels into the audience.
when aaron threw one over to alessandro, he looked at jeordie, smiling .... i am sure i have also seen trent smiling here and there, he really seemed to like it there !

i was glad that the rain stopped ... when nin came on stage (everything started about 30mins later because of motörhead) the weather was pretty pleasant in my opinion - not too hot, no rain ... just a lot of heaps of mud .... damnit, you should see my trousers and shoes ! :wink:

rob sheridan stood on the left side of the stage, took some photos ... so maybe we can hope for nin.com to post them up anytime :)

after nin i made my way out of the crowd ... my friend stayed there, she was mainly there because of system of a down, they had a gread lightshow.
too sad that it was still a bit "too bright" when nin played - i also love some of the light effects...
Bricklayer
i drove all the way from belgium for this show, and they did not dissapoint. Great balanced setlist ,and my new hero is born, Aaron, goddamn, he's like a kid with add. Great guy, and about the show, everything has already been said here ;)

somebody took pictures?
Hope it was beter than Paris... waiting for Werchter !!!
Have you seen nin.com?

"Deutschland kann meinen kugelsack lecken"

Exactly what does that mean? Something with balls right? =)
Master of the Ninth Arch
DanZt wrote:Have you seen nin.com?

"Deutschland kann meinen kugelsack lecken"

Exactly what does that mean? Something with balls right? =)
:shock: where is that ??? * wanders to nin.com *
Peanut gallery
Just got home from Oberhausen about an hour ago. Setlist seems to be correct.

I endured an hour (or more?) of the fucking idiotic fans of the beatsteaks to get in the front... and now i'm extremely tired (9 hour train ride home).

I also noticed the "Deutchland kann meinen Kugelsack lecken..". wtf is with Trent lately? I noticed that after reading the new access entries... has the silly bug bitten him?

I'll write a more comprehensive review later.

Oh yeah, and I spit in some fucking bastard's face in the middle of the concert. If you read here, be sure to pm me about it, loser.
Grand Pontiff
"Deutschland kann meinen kugelsack lecken" = "Germany can lick my balls"
Bricklayer
i don't know if anyone posted this on the vienna thread, but:

"You were a fucking great audience. This is a fucking great town. We just played two shitty festivals in Germany and we thought we were gonna kill ourselves. We needed this. Thank you." (Trent Reznor, 14.06.2005, Wien)

it seems like trent does not like germany :lol:
Master of the Ninth Arch
hmmm.... maybe someone should go to nin.com and post him a question : WHY !?? :shock:
I mean, i have read about that "toten hosen" disaster .... but ... hmmm....
i believe him that he / they must havce been in a bad mood afterwards ....

at least : like i said above: he **seemed** to like it in Oberhausen ... :o

h6a6t6e: where were you standing ??? maybe i saw you ???
Peanut gallery
marya wrote:h6a6t6e: where were you standing ??? maybe i saw you ???
a little left of center, 3rd/4th row.

I asked trent why just now in access.
Bricklayer
hey hate and marya, i was standing almost right beside you.
i was the one who screamed michael a few times and hate, but you didnt recognize me...

i'm not sure what trent said while they played starfuckers, but it seemed to me like he enjoyed playing in oberhausen. to me it sounded like (roughly) "...first time in germany no one throws sausages (not southside) at us..."

i really liked the fact that so many people wore nin-shirts. altough there most of the first and second row seemed to be there because of system of a down...

hoping for a bootleg :-)
Master Traveler
with tired eyes wrote:i don't know if anyone posted this on the vienna thread, but:

"You were a fucking great audience. This is a fucking great town. We just played two shitty festivals in Germany and we thought we were gonna kill ourselves. We needed this. Thank you." (Trent Reznor, 14.06.2005, Wien)

it seems like trent does not like germany :lol:
Jah, uv koahs hee dus naht lyike Gyuhmuhnee, yit ist ein schteenkeenk scheissehole! Und uv koahs hee kahme too Owstreeuh und hat hyimshelf ein grate tyime. Ah bett hee vound hyimshelf ein lyittuhl fraulein und lyickt heah yahsshole ahll nyite lahngk! Hey Truhnt, bee shoah too tryie das viener schnitzel!!!
Bricklayer
what? :shock:
Master of the Ninth Arch
Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
with tired eyes wrote:i don't know if anyone posted this on the vienna thread, but:

"You were a fucking great audience. This is a fucking great town. We just played two shitty festivals in Germany and we thought we were gonna kill ourselves. We needed this. Thank you." (Trent Reznor, 14.06.2005, Wien)

it seems like trent does not like germany :lol:
Jah, uv koahs hee dus naht lyike Gyuhmuhnee, yit ist ein schteenkeenk scheissehole! Und uv koahs hee kahme too Owstreeuh und hat hyimshelf ein grate tyime. Ah bett hee vound hyimshelf ein lyittuhl fraulein und lyickt heah yahsshole ahll nyite lahngk! Hey Truhnt, bee shoah too tryie das viener schnitzel!!!
...its arnold schwarzenegger - what else did you expect ??? :grin:
Bricklayer
i talked to one of nin's drivers and he said something about the band having groupsex backstage... :lol:
Master of the Ninth Arch
perfectdrugconsumer wrote:hey hate and marya, i was standing almost right beside you.
i was the one who screamed michael a few times and hate, but you didnt recognize me...

i'm not sure what trent said while they played starfuckers, but it seemed to me like he enjoyed playing in oberhausen. to me it sounded like (roughly) "...first time in germany no one throws sausages (not southside) at us..."

i really liked the fact that so many people wore nin-shirts. altough there most of the first and second row seemed to be there because of system of a down...

hoping for a bootleg :-)
lol, really such a quote ? i really don't know ... but as it is posted so much here: its no secret that trent did not like the german festivals ... so it would not be any surprise when he said sth. about sothside in combination with "this is the nicest german festival we've played so far" ....

anyway: well.... i was standing between trent & jeordie - more near jeordie , 3rd (maybe 4th) row ...
so i *should* have seen you (?)
did not realize anyone who screamed "michael" ... :shock:

hmmm... and the people who stood in front of me were mainly there because of NIN - i pulled "myself" out by a security after nin left stage ... (cool thing btw! always wanted to do sth. like that ! :grin: )

i wish they would have thrown more plectrums or drumsticks (!!!!!!) into the crowd ... the bassist of motörhead threw some after almost each song ! :shock: (and i did not get even 1 :-( )
Master of the Ninth Arch
perfectdrugconsumer wrote:i talked to one of nin's drivers and he said something about the band having groupsex backstage... :lol:
what ??? :D what did you ask him and when ?
i so hoped i would meet anyone walking around there (jerome for example) ... but no luck .... :-(
Bricklayer
photos, photos, photos??!! can´t wait to see some :) !!!
i was also standing in the 3rd or 4th row between jeordie and trent :D !! and i really enjoyed it a lot!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
*laughs*

seems as if ALL OF US stood between jeordie & trent ???! :shock:
Master of the Ninth Arch
Sorry if this is old news ( :oops: )
but on nin.com is a short videoclip from yesterday:

http://www.nin.com/current/index.html

... plus here you can see the "deutschland kann meinen kugelsack lecken" ... :?

id really like to know: WHY ..!?
hope we'll get ananswer to h6a6t6e's question-post ...
Master Traveler
Right. Two questions:

1) What's the thing from NIN's past that makes them hate Germany so much?

2) And what exactly is going on in the short video clip on nin.com? He's smashing his guitar, but did it happen at the end, did they disrupt a song before it was finished or what?

Seems a little strange to act like this, I must say. NIN have fans in Germany as well, and if they really, REALLY hate the country, why book shows there?
Bricklayer
1) happen somewhere at the NIN tour together with guns'n roses in the early 90's. nobody knows about it and some fucking guns'n roses fans throw bockwürste (sorry do not know the englisch word) at the band. that seem to be the main thing that trent hates germany.
yesss - have been also to Oberhausen yesterday an went back to Hamburg again. Oberhausen was amazing. Better than Hurricane. Thanks NIN for The big comedown. Again I made it till first row in front of Trent (Like a teen - but whatever). But there was no Intro like Pinon.
Everybody is right, that in Oberhausen most part of the crowd was only watching but nearly not rockin, freakin. (in front of stage) I asked some if they were just there to take photos but received no answers just weird eyes. But what the fuck! - I hope NIN will kick our German asses again soon. Hope that I don't have to wait 5 years again.

Thank you Trent for awsome moments at Hurricane, Berlin, Area 4.
Master Traveler
with tired eyes wrote:1) happen somewhere at the NIN tour together with guns'n roses in the early 90's. nobody knows about it and some fucking guns'n roses fans throw bockwürste (sorry do not know the englisch word) at the band. that seem to be the main thing that trent hates germany.
Okay. Thank you very much. I can imagine Trent would remember something like that and use it on every occasion dealing with Germany or german people. :grin:
Master of the Ninth Arch
Houseman wrote:
2) And what exactly is going on in the short video clip on nin.com? He's smashing his guitar, but did it happen at the end, did they disrupt a song before it was finished or what?
answer is - its at the end of head like a hole. listen carefully and you can hear the crowd and trent's "ooohhh oh oooohhs". :grin:
Master Traveler
marya wrote:
perfectdrugconsumer wrote:hey hate and marya, i was standing almost right beside you.
i was the one who screamed michael a few times and hate, but you didnt recognize me...

i'm not sure what trent said while they played starfuckers, but it seemed to me like he enjoyed playing in oberhausen. to me it sounded like (roughly) "...first time in germany no one throws sausages (not southside) at us..."

i really liked the fact that so many people wore nin-shirts. altough there most of the first and second row seemed to be there because of system of a down...

hoping for a bootleg :-)
lol, really such a quote ? i really don't know ... but as it is posted so much here: its no secret that trent did not like the german festivals ... so it would not be any surprise when he said sth. about sothside in combination with "this is the nicest german festival we've played so far" ....

anyway: well.... i was standing between trent & jeordie - more near jeordie , 3rd (maybe 4th) row ...
so i *should* have seen you (?)
did not realize anyone who screamed "michael" ... :shock:

hmmm... and the people who stood in front of me were mainly there because of NIN - i pulled "myself" out by a security after nin left stage ... (cool thing btw! always wanted to do sth. like that ! :grin: )

i wish they would have thrown more plectrums or drumsticks (!!!!!!) into the crowd ... the bassist of motörhead threw some after almost each song ! :shock: (and i did not get even 1 :-( )
during Starfuckers before the "don'tyou"-outburst, I also think i heard Trent say something like "shhh quiet polite nice little german festival..." I think they call that sarcasm...
Grand Pontiff
Houseman wrote:
with tired eyes wrote:1) happen somewhere at the NIN tour together with guns'n roses in the early 90's. nobody knows about it and some fucking guns'n roses fans throw bockwürste (sorry do not know the englisch word) at the band. that seem to be the main thing that trent hates germany.
Okay. Thank you very much. I can imagine Trent would remember something like that and use it on every occasion dealing with Germany or german people. :grin:
Here's some great stories from Germany. :-D

1994 March Musician:
"And other band members had traumas and I felt beaten up to the point where I was hiding, I couldn't deal with it. The lyrics from "Broken" started to form around then. Then Axl Rose made contact with us. He was a fan, and wanted to help out. We were going to Europe to do a tour, and we figured what better way to confuse people than to open for GNR?

So we did, and the audience hated us. We were terrified to start with, and then we're talking onstage in front of 65,000 people in Germany. The first song goes okay. Second song people realize we're not Skid Row, who came on after us. Third song they'd confirmed the fact that they've heard a synthesizer and it's time to attack.

There's something about the sight of every single person flipping you off in a giant stadium that makes you go instantly numb. I started laughing, then insulted them with anything I could think of.

At that moment I see this fucking link sausage come flying up onstage and I thought, okay, Germany, link sausage, you got us. So that was a penis shrinker. Then I looked into the audience and about 20 rows back there's some poor fucking kid holding up a NIN shirt, and I gave him a quick thumbs up. Suddenly there was this scuffle and he was gone. Never to be seen again.

That night we got the figures for our t-shirt sales. Out of 65,000 people, how many did we sell? Three. Now, I know I saw one of them myself."
1993 January Alternative Press:
This time it was Mr. Rose's charming fans who sent the bottles flying enmass toward the stage. Ducking cheap whiskey bottles and longnecks wasn't Reznor's idea of a good time. "I had actually forgotten about that but," he says in a sarcastic huff, "I guess it's OK now," and laughs. "We fuckin' sucked. It sucked! The first show I tried to be as good as possible but by the second one my tail was between my legs."

As if it wasn't bad enough being hated simultaneously by a stadium full of stringy-haired rockers, they also had a dressing room right across from Gunners number-one fans and bill-mates, Skid Row. "Before they'd go up on stage we'd hear them listening to Kiss a lot and doing the old hustle. We tried to video tape it but we couldn't get it. Afterwards, Sebastian would come into the dressing room all sweaty. Have you ever actually seen Sebastian Bach in person? He's like 18 feet tall and his body curves like this." Trent forms an "S" shape with his hands and does an impression by walking like Bigfoot as he shouts in a nasal, high-pitched tone. "Hey, guys,' a total pest, 'us, mother-fuckers, you want any pot or ecstasy or heroin or drugs? Come on over, dude. Rock 'n' roll man!' Then later someone told us he said on stage, 'No fuckin' drum machines on stage, man, this is just rock 'n' roll, we don't play that fuckin' snyth music.' Like he needed to say that anyway." Trent sums it all up, "It's one of those things when you think it might be a funny idea then you realize, when you're up there, maybe this ain't so great."
:-D
Master of the Ninth Arch
"At that moment I see this fucking link sausage come flying up onstage and I thought, okay, Germany, link sausage, you got us. So that was a penis shrinker. Then I looked into the audience and about 20 rows back there's some poor fucking kid holding up a NIN shirt, and I gave him a quick thumbs up. Suddenly there was this scuffle and he was gone. Never to be seen again."

I fucking cracked up when I read that ROFLMFAO, For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen!
Area 4 - my first NIN concert ever. i was realy looking forward to see the show. berlin, columbia halle, was my first choice, but i wasn't able to get tickets from official ticket stores, only ebay tickets where available for me (but i didn't feel like filling other peoples pockets). so i went to oberhausen and hoped to see a good set, even it would be shorter than a single show.
in my opinion the festival itself wasn't that well organized. to get the promised 10 € back (because the white stripes had cancelled) we had to wait in lines for houres. the festival was sponsored by becks and they are supporting their (not so new anymore) brand 'becks gold' which was sold in bottels. what's the point in disalowing to bring bottels on festivals when they sell them on the festival themself ? the reason i am pointing this out is because i counted more than 20 bottles that were thrown into the crowd in front of the stage. i don't think getting hit by a glass bottle is what you want when you watch your favourite band.
NIN rocked. they where just as brilliant as i hoped. the sound was (for a festival) great, stage setup was more than i expected (again for a festival). my personal highlights where terrible lie and starf*****. i didn't expect love is not enough sound live as great as it did. i was amazed, that trents voice sounds as great as it did during the whole show.
trents (NINs) attitude to germany: well, they seem to be proffessional enough to overlook it and still play shows in germany (hopefully in the future as well). i am german and i spent so much money buying 'halos' that i am telling myself the 'do something to my balls' thing isn't adressed to me. besides that: the international spiral fan club is for germany as well - so there is hope !

m.
Peanut gallery
perfectdrugconsumer wrote:hey hate and marya, i was standing almost right beside you.
i was the one who screamed michael a few times and hate, but you didnt recognize me...
I was the pretty tall guy wearing a black "the fragile" t-shirt, and was standing behind my red-headed girlfriend. I was also between Trent and Jeordie, closer to Jeordie though...

Anyway, here is my comprehensive concert review... now that I've slept and am in a better mood I should be able to recall the evens a bit better.

We arrived in Oberhausen at about 3pm, after a 9 hour train ride and realised no lockers were available in the trainstation, so we had to search for a while to find someplace we could hide our other bag of stuff while in the concert... eventually everything was okay, and we went to the Area4 grounds just in time to hear Finch playing a few songs on the main stage. As neither of us are Finch fans, we went to the tent stage and listened to who we believe may have very well been "the golden horses." Anyway, we sat down and meditated for a while, trying to pull all our energy together, but whatever. After this band finished, we made our way to the main stage where motorhead was playing. Waited at the 2nd fence for a while, until they were finished playing. Motorhead really, really, really, really sucks, and it cannot be denied. But anyway, I got kind of scared for a moment as I saw bottle after bottle of bear being tossed into the center area of the crowd (I later realised they were plastic bottles, but I was sure they were glass). Anyway, the time came, motorhead finally shut the fuck up (they played like 20-30 minutes too long) and left. We then rushed forward, but were still only in 5-9th row or something. The Beatsteaks (from Berlin) showed up and the fans wen't fucking insane. Not cool insane, not "Hey man, I'm gonna hop around and have fun" insane, but "I am going to push you down and stomp on your face" insane... so the two of us tried our best not to be murdered during this performance... and in a large way we did. A few things are worth mentioning about the Beatsteaks though... 1.) They apparently don't know how to write songs as nearly every song played was a cover. 2.) Their fans all look like 13 year old boys, but must've had really bad childhoods or something as they were all crazy, 3.) They must've watched the Dresden Dolls and mastered the art of the "unending song" (see my Berlin review for more information). At any rate, at some point the Beatsteaks stopped playing (although they did say several times it was an honour to play before Nine Inch Nails) and they began the stage setup. We pushed a little closer... setup took a while... I saw Jeordie standing a round in the back for a while... and sometime Trent just appeared on stage and Wish began. I didn't hear an intro, but maybe I wasn't paying attention... anyway, that setlist seems accurate:

wish
sin
march of the pigs
the line begins to blur
something i can never have
the hand that feeds
terrible lie
burn
closer
big comedown
love is not enough
gave up
suck
hurt
you know what you are
starfuckers
head like a hole

During the show some pissy, girlie, loser guy kept elbowing me and me Julie in the face and head and neck, and was really annoying. To make a long story short, I finally got the pansy-boy to stop.

Highlights (for me) were probably sin and big comedown (and starfuckers maybe, although as i said before, i would've liked to have understood what trent was sayingn). The crowd didn't seem as crazy as they were for the beatsteaks which pleased me, however they were push forward every bit as much. There isn't really much to say about the performance itself... Trent seemed to be in a better mood than he was in Berlin as he moved around more and squirted water around more I think. Aaron was as hyper as ever, and knocked over Jerome's cymbols at some point, and basically flew around the stage like a madman. Trent smashed a guitar sometime at the beginning by simply dropping it from the stage and letting the side hit sometime... which the security quickly move away despite the masses of begging fans. The video of Aaron at the end captures that stunt pretty well... although the amp was already broken from earlier in the show (to the best of my knowledge).

At the end, during Head Like a Hole, I was watching Jeordie most of the time, and held my hand out and he threw a pic directly to me. Unfortunately I missed, and I swear her threw another just for me (which unfortunately I also missed)... but whatever, now Jeordie seems a lot nicer to me... Trent also threw a water bottle I caught (!!) but some other guy pulled it from my hand promptly afterwards. Oh well, 5 more chances to catch something I guess.

I'm very sore today.
myles wrote:I know why Trent fucking hates German fans (and not Germany itself).
It's because they are the worst in the world.
First of all, shut the fuck up. Second of all, post in a more appropriate thread (like the update thread in the nine inch nails section). Your thread in no way related to Area4, and your shitty observations from SSF 2 years ago are also irrelevant in this matter.
yes, the worst place to play your shows at must be in germany.

The german audience seem very stiff and boring.
Ya know, it aint a bad thing to actually SHOW some support for the band that plays.

I would be ashamed if i saw people not even react to the songs here. Especially NIN who are known as a great live band.
What use is it to play live without an audience?

=/
this aint a flame - just a wake up call. ^^
Master of the Ninth Arch
answer is - its at the end of head like a hole. listen carefully and you can hear the crowd and trent's "ooohhh oh oooohhs".
yup, its HLAH - you can also see them leaving the stage, at least jerome ...

as said above: i also don't get it with the glass bottles, wtf ?
plus me& my friend also had to wait about 1 hour because we got our 10€ back ...

h6a6t6e: i am not sure if i have seen you, we made our way to the stage when finch was playing .... when motörhead started to play - btw. they did not play 20-30 too long - they were 20-30 too late ! it took too long for the to "prepare" the stage and instruments for them ... :?
anyway, when motörhead were on i was already very close to the front ...

beatsticks: i think they were quite funny & entertaining, i really did not like motörhead ....
but when the beatsticks were on i already realized that the crowed got so excited and restless ... because of the fact that NIN would come up next ...
i really had to struggle with the "beatsticks-audience" ....

i also think the festival was bad organized ... and i really did not like it at all - but the nin performance was the best i've seen so far .... cant wait for london !
Peanut gallery
Here's a really crappy picture of me after the nin show...

okay, not anymore.

I didn't like the festival very much either, but i agree the nin show was great.

as i said before the becks gold bottles were made of plastic, but at first i thought they were glass and was kind of afraid to go in the front where they were all being thrown.

i always pictures festivals having grass... that was a disappointment.

Oh yeah, I wanted to mention they sold some big nine inch nails posters there that i've not seen elsewhere. they had trent on them I think... although i only saw other people walking around with them... i didn't actually see them being sold.
Master of the Ninth Arch
now that i see the pic - i think i havn't seen you ... :?
Bricklayer
they sold the nin-posters outside. 2€ per copy. the resolution isnt that good, but well worth the two euros. i just don't know were to put it...in case i get fed up with trent i can turn it around and take a look at iggy pop. :D

has anyone of you been to the toilet where someone wrote "awitha theetha" on the wall? i would have taken a photo, but i didnt have a cam...
Oberhausen has just been my first NIN live experience. I tried to get tickets for various shows in the past, but whenever they do a show on their own, these are sold out in no time, so no luck until this Saturday.

Now, what's to say about the festival? I'll start of with a piece of advise that no one older than 14 should really need to learn, but hey, even 30+ups do marvelously dumb mistakes like that: Don't go out drinking the day before! I did! And I regretted it BIG time! Most of the festival I didn't enjoy myself too much. Most of the bands didn't get to me for a second, so most of the time I was wandering around, thinking: "I'd like to get myself a beer, if only just the thought wouldn't make me wanna puke..." The saddest thing about not having a beer there: I was kinda looking forward to see Motörhead. Not that I particularly like them, but I used to a LOT of years ago, so I thought a little nostalgia could be nice. But the sad truth is: Motörhead is definitely UNBEARABLE when your sober!

But since my main reason for beeing there was NIN anyway, al that was OK after the first couple of tunes from the guys. Trent so knows how to rock! And if he really doesn't like playing in Germany that much, he didn't show this night! (I didn't understand the before mentioned quote, saying something about a "polite audience" too good as the most, but it I'd agree with clover: that sounded a bit sarcastic. But they still did a great show!)

Including the somewhat flawed organisation of the event (10-€-refund-in-less-than-an-hour anyone?), the festival itself wasn't that good, but the NIN show was way more than worth wading through the mud for 12 hours!

BTW: If Trents comment concerning german audiences licking the stuff between his legs is really based on his experience as an opening act for GnR - A guy as professional as Trent should know better than to open with his kind of music (and genius!) in front of a dumb-ass GnR crowd, shouldn't he? ;)

Mellow Greetings
der_Schmock
Master of the Ninth Arch
has anyone of you been to the toilet where someone wrote "awitha theetha" on the wall? i would have taken a photo, but i didnt have a cam...
urgh, PLEASE don't remind me on THOSE toilets !!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
First off all, Motorhead blew me away. I mean, especially the last two songs "Ace of Spades" and "Overkill" reminded me of a stormy hair-dryer. Many of the little rascals out there on the market still have to look up when these grandfathers of rock perform on stage.

Trent and his minors actually made my day. I was comfly banging where the first barrier was just behind me and enjoyed the great sound and show. Simply awesome.

However, what's the point playing "something i can never have" (boring when played live) when tracks of THTF are underepresented? Secondly, wtf happened to closer? You are eagerly awaiting one of the most brilliant parts of the entire history of music and you suddenly face a mash-up.

BTW, I have visited the nearby "Gasometer" http://www.gasometer.de/ the next day. A weird experience. It should be fun, to attend a NIN concert in there.

Hail to all NIN-addicts, kosti
Knight of the Royal Axe
marya wrote:
has anyone of you been to the toilet where someone wrote "awitha theetha" on the wall? i would have taken a photo, but i didnt have a cam...
urgh, PLEASE don't remind me on THOSE toilets !!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Master of the Ninth Arch
pics don't show up !!!! :-(
Peanut gallery
marya wrote:pics don't show up !!!! :-(
Be Happy about that.
Knight of the Royal Axe
they show up now :/
Master of the Ninth Arch
mordillio wrote:i didn't expect love is not enough sound live as great as it did. i was amazed, that trents voice sounds as great as it did during the whole show.
I second this.

Love Is Not Enough is live waaaayyyy better than on the album!
I think this is a reason why Trent has put a rehearsal version onto the Only single!
(and this will be a good reason to buy this single!)
Master of the Ninth Arch
h6a6t6e wrote:
marya wrote:pics don't show up !!!! :-(
Be Happy about that.
jup, they ... ahem,.... show up now .... :shock:
Peanut gallery
OH yeah, I forgot to mention earlier that Trent made a different motion for "fist fuck!" than normal. It wasn't quite as cool as the old forward heave, but still not bad... 4 out of 5 stars on that Trent.
Grand Pontiff
kosti wrote:However, what's the point playing "something i can never have" (boring when played live) when tracks of THTF are underepresented? Secondly, wtf happened to closer? You are eagerly awaiting one of the most brilliant parts of the entire history of music and you suddenly face a mash-up.
Eh? So you'd rather have them not play SICNH (brilliantly performed when I saw them at Hultsfred, the whole crowd was up in the clouds, beautiful) in favor of playing THTF and extra time? Eh? Eh? ... Eh? And that's not a fucking mash-up, it's like 30 seconds of The Only Time in there (and it's pretty fucking awesome btw), then back to the song. I know I shouldn't post since I didn't attend, but I just don't get you, dude.
ravenouz wrote:I know I shouldn't post since I didn't attend, but I just don't get you, dude.
Look, time is limited. NIN played only 75 minutes. It would be a different story if he were on stage for three hours. Then the audience may have need some lamers thrown in to keep the temperature wihtin the healthy range. In the present case, I found this valuable time wasted (...sort of).
ravenouz wrote:it's like 30 seconds of The Only Time in there
I'd call this a mash-up. They were returning to the song (closer) afterwards only for approx. 30 seconds. This was simply not the aural blow-job I was expecting.
Master Traveler
frangipani

thx!
Peanut gallery
Anyone reading this happen to have made a recording?
Bricklayer
no bootleg, but some more pics: click
Peanut gallery
still no word on any recordings?