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2006/02/16 - Des Moines, IA [Wells Fargo Arena]

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2006/02/16 - Des Moines, IA [Wells Fargo Arena]
Please don't post in here if you weren't at the show. It is for pictures, stories, wtfever.
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen, For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen, I am first! For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen!

Pilgrammage intro thing
Mr. Self Destruct
Sin
Terrible Lie
Line Begins to Blur
March of the Pigs
Frail/Wretched
Big Comedown
Burn
Closer
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You in Time
With Teeth
Only
Every Day Is Exactly the Same
Wish
Even Deeper
Suck
Hurt
Hand that Feeds
Starfuckers Inc.
Head Like a Hole

Of course, I might be missing one or two, and the order is not right. It was sweet cuz there happened to be a copy of the set list sitting right below our seats (we were front row even with the stage), and Please was on the set list, but somehow Starfuckers got substituted for it. That sucks.

Kick ass show. Better than Moline. Crowd was a bit weaker cheering wise, but the floor crowd was amped up! They jumped like mad!

For MOTP, Trent started the song calling us "Iowa Corn-fed Fucking Pigs!". That was fucking hilarious. His monologue of the night was to thank us for coming out and also to pay homage to "the mighty Slipknot". He said they had the "unfortunate situation of playing after them in Japan" or something like that.

No real complaints. The band was not TOO crazy tonight, just the normal smashing of guitars and Trent going off on some mics a few times, but the crowd (cheer-wise) was pretty shitty, especially for the new songs and during the RWIB/BYIT quiet songs. If they didn't know the words, they just stared at the stage and waited for something they recognized. Oh well.

The venue and spiral people were VERY courteous. We had front-row seats and they knew before we even got to our seats that we wouldn't be able to see shit because of the position of the seats relative to some equipment on stage, so they relocated us. EXCELLENT! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

One more show at KC for me. This one was slightly better than Moline to me. No real mistakes. Well worth every penny (as was Moline)!
I didn't really think the crowd was so bad... but it was a little empty, probably due to the weather.

I thought it was a great show. Infinitely more polished than the show I saw in St. Paul on the first leg of their tour, and it was very nice to hear Starfuckers live. I just wish that they had kept You Know What You Are in the set list and ditched With Teeth. Oh well.

It was still a fantastic show, and I wish I could afford to see them again.
I thought the concert was very good. This was one of the best "band" performances I think I've seen. Very tight group. I was really impressed with Josh Freese (drummer) -- he really made the songs his own, and everyone seemed to be clicking.

I thought the crowd was fine. The people in the reserved seats were uh... "reserved" ...but the floor was amped up. Nothing wrong with that. In all, I think there was a lot of energy in the building, and especially a lot of energy coming off the stage. I was just thrilled that NIN actually came to freaking Des Moines. It's rare when any artist of Trent's caliber comes to Des Moines...

I like "Every Day Is Exactly The Same" better live. And, for the record, this was the best rendition of "Terrible Lie" I think I've heard live, and this dates back to the TDS tour and such. Just my opinion.

In all, a great concert. IMO, nothing will beat the concert I saw in Iowa City around 94 (the TDS tour with Marilyn Manson and the Jim Rose Circus), but that's OK. That night was pure chaos. Half of the reserved seating fans jumped the barricades and joined the general admission in a massive mosh pit. I saw numerous people carted up the stairs on strechers, suffering exhaustion or injuries. Man, that concert was insane and awesome at the same.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Here is the correct setlist, in order:

Pilgrimage (just chanting)
Mr. Self Destruct
Sin
Terrible Lie
The Line Beings to Blur
March of the Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer
The Big Comedown
Burn
Gave up
Eraser
Right where it belongs
Beside You In Time
With Teeth
Wish
Only
Everyday Is Exactly The Same
Even Deeper
Suck
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Starfuckers, Inc.
Head Like a Hole

Very good show. I will post more later, along with a few pictures.

Here are some pictures. A lot of them didn't turn out so well (or worse than these) since the exposure time was so long, since I was so far away :( But, some of them look decent, and you get the idea.

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Some jock in front of me, that only stood up for songs he knew

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Mr. Self Destruct

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The Line Begins to Blur

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Closer (Trent rockin out on his platform. You can kind of see him)

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Burn (one of my favorite visuals, aside from the video projection)

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Beside You In Time

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With Teeth
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Knight of the Royal Axe
sonic_engr wrote:I didn't really think the crowd was so bad... but it was a little empty, probably due to the weather.

I thought it was a great show. Infinitely more polished than the show I saw in St. Paul on the first leg of their tour, and it was very nice to hear Starfuckers live. I just wish that they had kept You Know What You Are in the set list and ditched With Teeth. Oh well.

It was still a fantastic show, and I wish I could afford to see them again.
Are you crazy? With Teeth is awesome live. Hearing YKWYA was nice to hear, but I think WT is great.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Awesome show. I enjoyed it greatly until my friend got pulled out and I was worrying about her for the last 3-4 songs. Not that there wasn't plenty to rock out to, because trust me...there was. That adorable mental patient playing geetar smashed the eff out of it at the end of the show.

Soundcheck made my boyparts hard too.

PINK HAIRED GIRL! If you read this, get a hold of me. I gotta ask you something!
Bricklayer
Good show! I was greatly worried that the band would be disappointed with the turnout and not provide an energetic experience -- there were about four completely empty sections at the far end of the arena -- but that turned out not to be the case. They seemed really fired up, and after the first three songs there were already a couple of broken guitars and tossed mics strewn about. Much more like the good ol' days (ala the Mr. Self-Destruct and Further Down the Spiral tours).

I was in the second row of the floor, in between TR and Aaron North. I had my hair all done up in knots, real pretty-like. We showed up early for rail action but couldn't squeeze our way in. Luckily, everyone around me was short...thanks for being inbred! ;)

The floor had a lot of energy, which TR seemed to appreciate, but the overall vibe was surprisingly not very rough. There were a lot of folks in front that had no business down there, but that's nothing new. I suppose that if you fill the floor with enough 15-year-old 5'1" girls, it'll mellow out the crowd a bit. And hey, 15-year-old girls can be tough too (just ask the cuties that ruled the rail in front of me all night).

Set list sounds about right. I was glad to see some different songs played from when I last saw them in St. Paul. Starfuckers was fun, and as people on previous nights have mentioned, the band is playing the living shit out of the song right now. Very hard, very fast, very intense. Nice!

At one point late in the show, some surfer landed without warning right on my head, so I punched him in the nuts. When the floor crew pulled him out, I screamed "I hope you get AIDS!" And I meant it.

About halfway through the show, somebody pulled down my pants. I had planned for this contingency, however, and was wearing shorts underneath. Nonetheless, for the rest of the night I had to contend with my feet being bound together, but I did discover that there is a nice cool breeze flowing across the floor...

NIN played for about one hour and fifty minutes. I got splashed with water and Powerade via uncle Trent, which was nice (and delicious!). Didn't bring home any guitar parts this time, but you can't win 'em all. Had a hand on a water bottle near the end but it wasn't worth the fight.

About the guitars that Aaron smashes at the end of HLAH...they are always Squier strats (the cheap version of the Fender strat). This is the only song he uses one of these guitars for; I think they must have bought a pile of them just to destroy every night. Tonight, just like the one he used (and I caught) in St. Paul, the "Squier" label on the neck had been rubbed off, and the guitar body had been scratched up (to make it look mean and/or used). Now, I would be excited it they smashed an accordian at the end of the show, but wouldn't it be more rock and roll if he destroyed a Les Paul every night?

I guess they're growing wise in their old age. Can't say I blame them -- I wouldn't destroy a $2000 guitar every night either.

All in all, a lot of fun! I am not too sore today, and I don't have any wounds that won't heal soon, so hooray for me. Another fantastic show by NIN. At my age, I don't know how many more shows I will do on the floor...I'm getting a little old for that I'm afraid. Part of me will miss it, but part of me will be glad to have air to breathe, a beer to drink, and room to move.

Finally, to the cute girls standing in front of me all night: you're all pretty hot. Keep up the good work, call me when you turn 18.

mm
Bricklayer
Here is the review from the Des Moines Register. I think he hit the nail (no pun intended) on the head: Where was everybody? Being a cold night, and school night for the kiddies, probably didn't help matters, but still...

Note to Mr. Reznor: next time, come to Ames instead of Des Moines. It's a smaller town with an older arena, but it's a college town and the draw will be better.

Review follows:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/p ... 005&lead=1

Nails pierce crowd, even if following has dulled
By JEFF INMAN
SPECIAL TO THE REGISTER

February 17, 2006


A decade ago, Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Reznor was a dark god.

The mere mention of Reznor's name had every kid with a black T-shirt collection and bad mascara lining up for a chance to revel in his pain. His caustic and cathartic records dominated the charts. His groundbreaking videos were mainstays on MTV. He was the melancholy king.

Now Reznor can’t even fill up half of Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines. Nine Inch Nails’ concert Thursday night pulled in just 4,950 fans — a small tragedy befitting a guy who’s made a living by rolling around in his own angst.

Especially since Reznor put on a show that could have stunned millions. Clean and sober after a long battle with addiction, Reznor performed like the demon he always made himself out to be — thrashing about on stage, throwing mic stands, kicking equipment. He beat classic NIN songs like “Terrible Lie” and “Sin” until they bled distortion and rage, their computerized backbone of mechanical whirs and percolating beats severed by a massive blow of guitars.

New material, like "The Hand that Feeds" and "Every Day is Exactly the Same," both from last year's With Teeth, was just as massive and pulsating. With it, Reznor created little earthquakes that literally shook the building, all the while seeming to wonder if anyone could still hear what he was trying to say: "I think I used to have a voice, now I never make a sound."

Obviously, that’s not quite the case. When the group tore into NIN standards like “March of the Pigs” or the group’s notorious hit “Closer,” the audience screamed along. The floor turned into a sloshing mass of bodies moving in a series of flickers, hundreds of strobe lights flashed at unrelenting speed. The whole arena became a dome of tension, wrapped up in everything Reznor did, be it touching ballads soaked in self doubt or crushing industrial metal that sounded vaguely like hundreds of robots being tortured.

It didn’t even matter Reznor looked like a suburban dad ready for a play date, sporting jeans, a T-shirt and a close-shaved head. He knows true evil is always in the familiar.

That’s a lesson opener Moving Units is trying to take to heart — or at least that's what you’d think considering the way the quartet has copied Franz Ferdinand and Interpol with such loving detail.

The only problem is that the Los Angeles group forgot it isn’t just the twitchy new-wave rhythms and depressive lyrics that make those bands memorable. It’s the fact that they’re making daring music. Moving Units played like it’s jumping on a trend — and knew it.

Jeff Inman is a Des Moines-based freelance writer.
Master of the Ninth Arch
http://photobucket.com/albums/a392/WKstreetteam/NIN2/

A few crappy pics I took. I foolishly filled up the internal memory on the camera taking 2 very worthless videos, and had no idea how to switch it to the memory card. Oops. :(
Bricklayer
pretty awesome concert...i was really surprised at the attendence though. i was really glad that they played the big come down that was grrrreat.

on the downside..it was in iowa and iowa is so god damn boring. now i know why slipknot is so shitty. it was unfortunate that trent had to mention them too.
Grand Pontiff
bagface wrote:on the downside..it was in iowa and iowa is so god damn boring. now i know why slipknot is so shitty. it was unfortunate that trent had to mention them too.
Word. Right when he mentioned Slipknot I cringed because I knew he would either have to compliment them, or be murdered by hoards of crappy music lovers. I find it's best just to not talk about Slipknot...ever.
Knight of the Royal Axe
I don't really agree with the reviewer. If he were to sell out the arena, or play in Ames, you'd get all the fags that just show up for songs like Closer. I went to the Moline show as well, and the two bitches in front of me went home right after he finished Closer. At the Des Moines show, the two jocks in front of me sat down every time there wasn't something they could bang their heads to. My point, is that I'd rather be around just shy of 5,000 fans, rather than a few people that are like "hey, NIN made that one song, Closer, we should go see them." That's why I loved the clubs tour so much I think.
Bricklayer
Quick Review and a couple notes..

First, I have seen 3 other shows this year, and I am pretty sure this is the best sound that the band has put out. Everything seemed like it was to a T. Also, is it just me or did the show seem incredibly long. It was something like 24 songs....I even had a couple of friends I was with mention how long they thought it was.

Am I wrong here or are they using new visuals on certain songs? I'm pretty sure I noticed this on a few songs....of the top of my head The Hand that Feeds was one.

For the band sounding so great I was kind of disappointed in the crowd. People weren't screaming back each lyric of the songs as I have grown acustom to. Also, there was a lot of people that were not even moshing..just running into people and shoving them. I don't mind this to an extent, but please do it with the fucking music. Two or three times during the night in the middle of songs like RWIB and Hurt some jackass would run full on and shove myself/others. I would then, of course, shove them back with my free arm...which is incidently bruised to fuck today.

Last thing, did anybody notice the oddity during Starfuckers during the, "don't you" part? At other shows I have been to the crowd will scream don't you back at him for about 10-20 seconds as the lights go out. Trent will then use this part to stop the crowd and say something. After that he will break back into the song. Well, when he did this the crowd didn't really say don't you back to him, and instead, just cheered. Trent said don't you after this about three-four times on 5 second intervals, and seemed to me that he was suprised. It seemed that he did not know what to do, and did not expect that. I finally started screaming don't you hoping that people would catch on, or that he would atleast notice a few people in the crowd caught on to what he was hoping for, but it was fairly worthless in a crowd of 5,000.

All in all the band was fantastic tonite, but the crowd was disappointing. Which disappoints me, being from Iowa, and this being my first chance to catch them in Iowa. Although I do really hope a recording shows up.
A few notes to add after reading the comments posted:

About the Squier strats, there was a huge pile of Squier boxes fresh and unopened from the factory behind the stage. This is obviously the stockpile that Jeordie and Aaron take their HLAH axes from every night to smash to tiny bits. Trent is always playing a Les Paul lookalike, these are the ones that are being auctioned on ebay after he smashes them. And I agree that it doesn't make sense to ruin a $2000 guitar every night if 90% of the crowd has no fucking clue about guitars anyway.

I agree that he might get a bit better turnout in Ames, but not much. Tool came to Hilton a few years ago and it was pretty sad how empty it was. This is why it is RARE to see good rock acts come to Iowa. I don't believe it has anything to do with quality of fans, just quantity. And yes, you'd get more retarded frat boys in Ames, no question.

A note about the middle of Starfuckers. In this case, the quietness of the crowd probably helped. When I was at the St. Louis show last year, the crowd started the "don't you" chanting and Trent stopped everyone and said "No, no, no. We don't do that fucking shit anymore. When I wrote the song it seemed like a good idea, but honestly it's just become a pain in the ass." So the crowd (most likely unintentionally) did not repeat, which probably helped our esteem as a "good crowd" in Trent's eyes. But Trent did respond just before breaking back into the song, "But it's not about you." And it's not, it's about asslickers in the music industry (I think).

So there ya go. Not trying to be preachy, just sharing some knowledge. Take it or leave it.
Knight of the Royal Axe
yeah, so instead he said "this song really isn't about you" in just a regular, non singing voice. That was funny to me.

edit: that was to the poster, before the last poster :)
This was my first NIN show.. but probably the first of many.. I'm a musician, and I don't claim to like any genre of music.. I like the "real" shit..no matter what kind of music it is... posers need not apply.. These guys are the real fucking deal.. I can't get over the drive and raw power of Trent's tunes..The visuals with the drop curtains were particularly outstanding.. Although I wasn't crazy about the way he did "Hurt".. after hearing a dying Johnny Cash do it......you can't get much deeper than that, but it was cool.. one of my favorite all time chord progressions..

Speaking of posers.... good god did that opening band suck balls.. just in case you didn't notice that they sucked ass, had no talent, and every single song sounded the same... Oh yeah, my favoite part was the "feedback solos" at the end of every song..it reminded me of the teenage punks that come into the music store and can't play a lick, but think that using some screaming effect it awesome..check them out on my space..

"Moving Units"
Bricklayer
As far as the Starfuckers thing goes...I was also at the St Louis show this year. When he said something to the extent of, "we don't do that anymore" then took a second to talk...you could tell that he had obviously planned for that. They way I took it, and I could be wrong, but from that show, and others, he uses Starfuckers as a way to briefly talk to the crowd then cut back into the music. I have no problem with this. I actually think it is a pretty cool way to converse with the crowd.

So, I could be way off, but it just seemed to me that he expected the crowd to start the don't you chant which never happened. Not that it is a big deal either way. Perhaps I was more suprised by the crowd not starting the chant since I expected it.
Pssh.. Quit bitching about Iowa, the crowd, and the opening band.. Nine Inch Nails came to town and regardless of the turn out, being in Iowa, or the shitty band they played their fuckin' asses off. I'm greatful for that. This was a great show and IOWA needs great shows.. It was purely awesome.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Great show! I thought they had more energy and put on a better show than when I saw them last year in St. Paul. I loved Trent's sarcastic comments about Slipknot. Setlist looks right to me. Was nice to hear some different songs from the last leg of the tour. Starfuckers was really good.

Moving Units were alright until they started singing. Went all downhill from there. I did like how they made mention that they realize no one was there to see them and were alright with that.

If anyone taped this or has word from somebody who did PM me. I would absolutely love to get some sort of recording of this show.

I took some pics with my phone, haven't had a chance to check how good they are. If they are decent I will post them this weekend.
carbz wrote:Pssh.. Quit bitching about Iowa, the crowd, and the opening band.. Nine Inch Nails came to town and regardless of the turn out, being in Iowa, or the shitty band they played their fuckin' asses off. I'm greatful for that. This was a great show and IOWA needs great shows.. It was purely awesome.
Yes, the show WAS awesome. No, Iowa is NOT awesome, and if you think Iowa is awesome... well, I don't really even need to say anything. Telling other people how to feel about the show just makes you look like a douche. And don't be all like "love Iowa or leave it" cuz I AM leaving it, VERY, VERY SOON.

One thing I felt like adding about the lighting... most all the equipment from the fall arena tour was the same. However, if you saw them in the theaters in early '05, they had these super-powerful vertical lighting panels. Those are back for this tour, and I don't remember them being there during the fall tour. These panels are especially sweet on Burn, with the blue flame effect. Kickass!

About Moving Units... the drummer is pretty awesome. Besides being technically talented, he is the one that threw in the comment, "Thanks so much to Nine Inch Nails for inviting us out. And thanks to you guys for sitting through us, a band you didn't really come to see." Their first song would have to be the best. Yes, many of their songs sound similar. There's no doubt that the worst part is the singer, you can't understand anything he's singing, and it's all long, droning notes. No dynamics to the vocals at all, very boring in my opinion. And as I've said before, for some reason the opening bands for NIN always just SOUND bad, as in acoustics and equalization. My final opinion, they are ok. I only booed them once and that was when the singer said something like, "Yeah, we're in Iowa. The heartland. I can feel the warmth here in the heartland." And he was being a prick about it. Fuck you, dude. I hate Iowa too, but saying that shit on stage is about the dumbest performance move possible.

Finally (and then I'll shut up, at least until the KC show), there seems to be some debate about what Trent said about Slipknot. What I heard was, "Also we want to pay homage to the mighty Slipknot. We had the unfortunate situation of playing after them in Japan." Meaning, Slipknot is awesome and following them on stage is tough because they put on a good show. Some people took this as sarcasm, meaning Slipknot sucks ass and Trent was joking. I thought he was sincere. I don't really care about Slipknot, so I'm pretty unbiased. Just stating what I thought I heard.
lol.. When did I say love Iowa or Leave it? When did I say Iowa was "awesome"? What the fuck are you talking about? You must have been born in this shithole state.. My point was that NIN rocked the fuckin' house, regardless of where we were. Let me clarify that IOWA IS NOT AWESOME IN ANY WAY. Yes, Iowa does not inspire 'awe' in me, whatsoever... I've been listening to nine inch nails for the last 10 years of my life, I enjoyed the concert greatly.. so.. chrome.. It didn't matter to me where it was, just that they gave it everything..
Bricklayer
i wasn't at the conccert so i know i shouldnt post but...i just wanted to add to the slipknot debate because i think chromeboy was right when he said trent was being sincere and really likes slipknot because im pretty sure he's worked on projects with slipknots drummer in the past with rick rubin and stuff....im pretty positive he wasn't being sarcastic and he really does like slipknot
Master of the Ninth Arch
I'm not starting a 'love Iowa or hate Iowa' debate, but last time I checked this was a forum to talk about the NIN show in Des Moines. Not to bitch about how you hate Iowa or how much you love it.

As for the Slipknot comments. Maybe I took it as sarcasm because of my dislike for them. However it was meant to be taken, it was still nice to have a chatty Trent. Makes him seem a bit more personal when watching the show.

It was a great show and that is the most important part that I will always remember.
Bricklayer
Definitely a great show, I don't think anyone can argue that. I had a blast; I would have had a blast if I was the only that showed up.

As far as the crowd goes, I'm all for quality over quantity, and I wish I could have gotten tickets for one of the club shows. I'd rather not get beat on by some skinhead who is just there to slam dance (or butt-slam). But, when I go to a show where there are three times as many people (eg, NIN in St. Louis 2/14/95; in Madison spring 2000; in St. Paul October 2005), are there three times as many "quality" fans there, or 10,000 extra dumbfucks that just decided to buy tickets? I imagine that the balance is shifted more towards the former than the latter, but maybe I'm wrong.

And in any case, let's not get to uppity here on our high-and-mighty fan site about "quality fans". Should people stop going to shows if they don't know every single word to every single song? If they don't know the name of the band's current drummer? If they can't list all of NIN's previous drummers in reverse chronological order?

Touring is where bands make their money...if they sell more tickets, they'll sell more records, play more shows, and (probably) put out more albums in the future. Yes, I hate annoying sorority sisters as much as anyone, but if they want to be just to hear "Closer" and then go finger themselves in the bathroom, then good for the band for getting some suckers' money.

Back to attendance issues: I was at the Tool show at Hilton in Ames that someone else mentioned previously. I was also at the show the day before at Omaha, and the day after in the Quad Cities. Ames had the smallest crowd of the three, I thought, but had many more people (7000-8000) than this NIN show did in Des Moines. It was also the best show of the three, by far.

I knew a number of people that would have gone to the latest NIN show had it been in Ames, none of which were meatheads, fratboys, or dumb annoying whores. They mainly included college students that didn't have cars, or people that simply didn't want to drive "all they way" down to Des Moines (Iowans are like that, I have discovered in the five years I've lived here).

In the end, it really doesn't matter all that much -- it was a great show. But I still contend that louder, filled-to-the-brim arena would have made a great show even better.

About the Slipknot comment: think what you will about the band, but Mr. Reznor's comments were sincere. I took it to mean that members of the band was actually at the show.

About the Starfuckers thing...I'm glad to hear that I wasn't the only one confused by that. If they don't want us to do the chant, why stop the song? Earlier in the tour, I think I read that they just skipped right through the chanting part. The "But it's not about you" was difficult to interpret...It sounded slightly insulting, but other than that thing TR seemed in good spirits that night and pleased with the crowd. So maybe it was just part of the schtick. Either way, I'll probably still find a way sleep at night.

Interestingly, that line reminded me of the "Non-Conformist's Oath" that Mr. Keenan of Tool often has the crowd swear to (repeat after me):

"Think for yourself...

Question authority...

Dare to be individual...

Never repeat anything anyone else says..."

It's funny, but it also highlights the kind of love/hate relationship that some bands have with their fans. Mr. Renzor and Mr. Keenan are both artists and performers -- their careers depend on people paying to listen to them -- but they both are probably pretty tired of all the clingers-on and fan art. It is a fine line they must walk, I suppose.

Anyway, good debate, glad to read everyone's comments, see you on the Tool tour this fall.

mm
i went to this show and to the one in lincoln the next night they both were amazing trent sounded great jeordie did a great job and josh really made the songs come alive aaron was fun to watch i will say that i saw nin in 94 when they were in iowa city and that by far was the best. As for the crowd it was ok not that rough but they all had repesct for trent and im sure were grateful that he even came through iowa
did any of you guys see the dude get hit in the face with Aarons guitar when he threw it ?
I didn't see anyone get hit, but my thought when he threw it was "whoa!" That thing had some velocity and spin on it. I would not have wanted to try catching that one.

I also would not have wanted to be involved in the pile-on that ensued. I wonder who ended up with the pieces, and whether anyone broke anything in the process.

BTW, did anyone tape this show? Security was very slack, I thought, very lenient patdowns. The guy next to me on the floor claimed to have brought a knife in with him (which made me quickly shuffle out of his way).

mm
Master of the Ninth Arch
I agree, security was very slack. I got patted down rather thoroughly (had to empty my pockets), but my wife barely even got looked at and let through.
i saw a guy after the show with a huge goose egg on his forhead and a very split lip it must have been the guy that got hit it looked bad and he didnt look happy i wonder if aaron found out he hurt someone after the show cause that act was not repeated the next night in lincoln nothing was thrown except some drumsticks by some roadie after the show when the lights came on
This was my third show (after Austin,TX last May and St. Paul, MN last September), and it was great! It was much like the St. Paul show, but I was on the floor this time, and the production was a bit different. The Austin show was a completely different experience, for a lot of reasons.

I don't really have anything to add about the concert, per se. However, during the video (which I loved both times I've seen it), there were some choads cheering at the flamethrower, the bird getting eaten, etc. DON'T FUCKING DO THAT! It wasn't as bad as in St. Paul, where people were cheering at the G.I. with his gun to the little girl's head, but I really wanted to elbow-smash the guy behind me, who thought it was cool to list groceries as the camera went through the store. A withering glare from my girlfriend only encouraged him.

I had a rather pleasant experience on the floor - I was given a berth of about one person, and so could move back and forth quite freely. Much improved from the Austin show, where it was 100F and I lost my shoes and glasses in a completely stuffed gravel pit.

It was nice to here Big Come Down and Even Deeper, which I hadn't heard live yet.

Also, that was the most I've seen Trent talk.
The show was ROCKING!!! why do you think Trent played 25 songs for us? He hasn't played that many for anyone else has he?
he played that many because hes never coming back to the shithole that is iowa again
foorue42 wrote:he played that many because hes never coming back to the shithole that is iowa again
Awww yeah!!! Now that makes perfect sense!!! You are far too classy to be from Iowa, you must be from Minnesota. No? Nebraska? Even classier. Hopefully someday I can be half the tool you are, but probably not. Anyways, I was searching the net when I came across this quote that you might find interesting:

“I’m sooo sick of playing at these shithole venues that are Iowa… I don’t see why I don’t just play concerts for foorue42, since he is my only true fan… God he’s such a fucking badass” –Trent Reznor, July 17th 1995
Site Admin
That's enough, dickheads.
Fuck yea I'm from MN. God that would be dank if he would just play concerts for me since I am the only true NIN fan. I BET YOU DONT EVEN OWN ALL THE HALOS DO YOU !?!?!?!?!?!?...
the show was awesome. the setlist was great, the crowd was into it, the bad was tight. i thought it was awesome of trent to play up here...i hope trent & the band come back through again sometime. just relocated up here this past summer, and i was very happy to have someone as bas ass as nin come through.
Bricklayer
Ack! I thought this show was the Moline show... I'm moving my post now...

- P.S. Slipknot is overrated, and they totally tear-off Testament right and left.
What the hell are you talking about? I know I was in Des Moines. The Moline concert was on a different day and has its own thread.
Bricklayer
Oops! Sorry about that.

Still, uh, don't rip on Iowa!