2006/03/16 - Greenville, SC [Bi-Lo Center]
Terrible Lie was definitely somewhere in the beginning.dunebug81 wrote:The setlist...in order.
Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
Mr. Bukkake
Sin
The Line Begins To Blur
MOTP
Closer
Burn
Gave UP
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
EDIETS
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
THTF
Head Like A Hole
Let me sum it up for you.Pollack wrote:Terrible Lie was definitely somewhere in the beginning.dunebug81 wrote:The setlist...in order.
Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
Mr. Bukkake
Sin
The Line Begins To Blur
MOTP
Closer
Burn
Gave UP
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
EDIETS
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
THTF
Head Like A Hole
Also, the setlist wasn't shit; it just didn't include any Fragile tracks.... weird, but not disappointing.
Tonight being my 15th show this tour...yes it was shit if you stack it up to the other nights.kainen j wrote:Let me sum it up for you.Pollack wrote:Terrible Lie was definitely somewhere in the beginning.dunebug81 wrote:The setlist...in order.
Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
Mr. Self Destruc t
Sin
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
MOTP
Closer
Burn
Gave UP
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
EDIETS
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
THTF
Head Like A Hole
Also, the setlist wasn't shit; it just didn't include any Fragile tracks.... weird, but not disappointing.
For this being your first nin show: It was awersome
If this was your 2nd or third then it wasn't near as good, especially if those other two or three had been in the same year because you basically saw the same damn thing everytime.
ha!@comparing "indentured servants" not slaves to actual slaves. There is a huge difference between the two. Indentured servants actually got paid in some form or another whether it be travel expense to a country or whatever. Also after their certain amount of time was up, indentured servants were free to go. Oh, and another thing, many indentured servants chose to become one and some would even quit before they finished their job. You, sir, read your history books. With that said, I don't expect you to understand Saul Williams, and that is not a knock on your intelligence. I don't understand Will Ferrell's comedic appeal. So I guess we all have our quirks. It's not promoting racism, quite the opposite actually. I think you are hearing the words but not listening to them. You are entitled to your opinion though. With that said I enjoyed Saul Williams quite a bit. I do, however, agree with your suggestion for him to include live musicians.kainen j wrote:Ok I just got back from the show, this being my 5th and here comes my Honest Reveiew, no bullshit...as usual:
Saul Williams: Ok I'm going to say GOOD and BAD things about him so before you freak out read it all. I feel I will make good points and i'm interested in your responses.
#1. It's embarassing and ridiculous for any musician of any musical style to get on stage with a mic and a second hand who presses buttons (play and stop) The DJ was also doing beat hits/snaps as well as spinning the wheel but his performance, from a musical perspective, would have had much more density and power with live musicians.
#2. One of the songs he performed is entitled "True Black." Now for you morons out there who don't know, this promotes racism. How well do you think it would roll over for a white 24 male (myself) and my band to go out and write a song called "True White" and write about the same subject matter but switch the color of skin. It's childish and is a sign of weakness. Some of you may say that it is called for because he is black and maybe his ancestors were slaves. I got news for you people... white, chinese, mexicans have all been slaves pre revolutionary war...read your history books, they're called indentured slaves. My point simply is this, we live in a free world as of status quo so stop bitching about the past. It's over, it's a tired subject...DROP IT!
#3. The DJ was fooling no one acting as if he was singing the backup vocals because sometimes (most times) he would miss he cues and then it just seemed like a stage act. Boo!!!
Ok now for positives:
#1. Great beats, strong music but lacks appropriate message.
#2. Great stage prescence and dynamic voice, but god does he need live musicians.
For all of you that might turn this against me to make it seem like i'm a racist, don't. You'll be making a fool of yourself.
Now for the real deal:
Nine Inch Nails:
Setlist is 100% on (sadly to say) because for the past year the name of this tour has been "Every Setlist is exactly the same." If anyone of you ever has a band and you get popular - DON'T DO THIS. Play it all and make all songs available to play by having your "SPIRAL" members vote for the stelist here and there out of your whole catalgue.
#1. Great energy on stage
#2. Killer lights though they don't come close to fragility or self destruct days.
#3. Out of the 9 shows i've seen Nine Inch Nails play this was by far the worst and thats a good thing because while they still were excellent the set is lacking originality, actually it's screaming/begging for it. Also the lights are of lower value, everyone who is a guitarist misses Robin.
#4. Highlight of the night???? Easy...Josh freese. Period, he's far better drummer than the last guy and defintely jerome and is by far the most boring drummer ever. I felt embarassed for him every night they toured with the dresden dolls. Oh Mr. Bukkake + dead souls were highlights.
#5. Trent said the band has been working on new material and are planning to record it, that was nice to hear. Also he thanked the crowd many times over and said we were a great crowd (though the 10,000 arena was 70% full...for you non math majors thats 7,000
#6. Did anyone else notice Josh did his intro drum part to march of the pigs one measure to early so the whole song the lights were off by one measure? God i was hoping someone else noticed that.
#7. It was funny as hell watching Trent about to kill over in laughter when he trhew the mics into the crowd and heard these terrible girls singing. Girls singing Nin doesn't sound rightl, especially when you're 14 going 12. Trent almost lost it though.
#8. Boo of the night goes to the chick in the back with a glow stick during hurt. Need I say more? Lighters are acceptable defintely, but a fucking glow stick? This isn't a rave.
During head like a hole my nose decided to burst in blood for no reason, probably due to sinus infection as of recent. So no ending remarks other than I mean everything I said.
For Nin I give show it's worst rating out of the 9 I've seen but seriously people it's Nin and when Nin shows aren't up to par or might be bad they're still pretty damn good. Let the flames begin!
Appreciate your comments. I looked up his lyrics in the meantime of my last post and his lyrics are that of tired subjects. He seems to be a very bright guy and intelligent and you can hear that through his music and passion though his lyrics don't set him apart from many others. Thanks for the clean up on Indentured servants but, you get what I'm saying.rabid_swine wrote:ha!@comparing "indentured servants" not slaves to actual slaves. There is a huge difference between the two. Indentured servants actually got paid in some form or another whether it be travel expense to a country or whatever. Also after their certain amount of time was up, indentured servants were free to go. Oh, and another thing, many indentured servants chose to become one and some would even quit before they finished their job. You, sir, read your history books. With that said, I don't expect you to understand Saul Williams, and that is not a knock on your intelligence. I don't understand Will Ferrell's comedic appeal. So I guess we all have our quirks. It's not promoting racism, quite the opposite actually. I think you are hearing the words but not listening to them. You are entitled to your opinion though. With that said I enjoyed Saul Williams quite a bit. I do, however, agree with your suggestion for him to include live musicians.kainen j wrote:Ok I just got back from the show, this being my 5th and here comes my Honest Reveiew, no bullshit...as usual:
Saul Williams: Ok I'm going to say GOOD and BAD things about him so before you freak out read it all. I feel I will make good points and i'm interested in your responses.
#1. It's embarassing and ridiculous for any musician of any musical style to get on stage with a mic and a second hand who presses buttons (play and stop) The DJ was also doing beat hits/snaps as well as spinning the wheel but his performance, from a musical perspective, would have had much more density and power with live musicians.
#2. One of the songs he performed is entitled "True Black." Now for you morons out there who don't know, this promotes racism. How well do you think it would roll over for a white 24 male (myself) and my band to go out and write a song called "True White" and write about the same subject matter but switch the color of skin. It's childish and is a sign of weakness. Some of you may say that it is called for because he is black and maybe his ancestors were slaves. I got news for you people... white, chinese, mexicans have all been slaves pre revolutionary war...read your history books, they're called indentured slaves. My point simply is this, we live in a free world as of status quo so stop bitching about the past. It's over, it's a tired subject...DROP IT!
#3. The DJ was fooling no one acting as if he was singing the backup vocals because sometimes (most times) he would miss he cues and then it just seemed like a stage act. Boo!!!
Ok now for positives:
#1. Great beats, strong music but lacks appropriate message.
#2. Great stage prescence and dynamic voice, but god does he need live musicians.
For all of you that might turn this against me to make it seem like i'm a racist, don't. You'll be making a fool of yourself.
Now for the real deal:
Nine Inch Nails:
Setlist is 100% on (sadly to say) because for the past year the name of this tour has been "Every Setlist is exactly the same." If anyone of you ever has a band and you get popular - DON'T DO THIS. Play it all and make all songs available to play by having your "SPIRAL" members vote for the stelist here and there out of your whole catalgue.
#1. Great energy on stage
#2. Killer lights though they don't come close to fragility or self destruct days.
#3. Out of the 9 shows i've seen Nine Inch Nails play this was by far the worst and thats a good thing because while they still were excellent the set is lacking originality, actually it's screaming/begging for it. Also the lights are of lower value, everyone who is a guitarist misses Robin.
#4. Highlight of the night???? Easy...Josh freese. Period, he's far better drummer than the last guy and defintely jerome and is by far the most boring drummer ever. I felt embarassed for him every night they toured with the dresden dolls. Oh Mr. Bukkake + dead souls were highlights.
#5. Trent said the band has been working on new material and are planning to record it, that was nice to hear. Also he thanked the crowd many times over and said we were a great crowd (though the 10,000 arena was 70% full...for you non math majors thats 7,000
#6. Did anyone else notice Josh did his intro drum part to march of the pigs one measure to early so the whole song the lights were off by one measure? God i was hoping someone else noticed that.
#7. It was funny as hell watching Trent about to kill over in laughter when he trhew the mics into the crowd and heard these terrible girls singing. Girls singing Nin doesn't sound rightl, especially when you're 14 going 12. Trent almost lost it though.
#8. Boo of the night goes to the chick in the back with a glow stick during hurt. Need I say more? Lighters are acceptable defintely, but a fucking glow stick? This isn't a rave.
During head like a hole my nose decided to burst in blood for no reason, probably due to sinus infection as of recent. So no ending remarks other than I mean everything I said.
For Nin I give show it's worst rating out of the 9 I've seen but seriously people it's Nin and when Nin shows aren't up to par or might be bad they're still pretty damn good. Let the flames begin!
As far NIN. I agree that the crowd was very mild-mannered. Some even looked around clueless to tracks like Burn and Dead Souls. The pit seemed to have energy though. I didn't think this was the worst NIN show I've seen. The inclusion of Sin, Mr. Bukkake and Dead Souls was enough for me not to rated the worst. Considering some of the setlist I've seen from previous shows on this Tour, and shows I've been to, I think we made out pretty well. And ha!@the horrid singing by that one girl. Eh, that probably made her life. I agree with you about the highlights of the night being Mr. Bukkake and Dead Souls. And I, in many ways, agree with you about set list montany but for the other 90% of the people who maybe just casual fans or can't follow NIN around the nation, it would suck to them. Majority rules I guess. I would love to see tracks like Twist, Happiness in Slavery, Get Down Make Love, and Supernaut (I know this is a 1000 Homo DJ track but hell, Suck is a Pigface track) live but if that were the case...crowd energy would be terrible because you would get the reaction you get like when they play Burn or Dead Souls. Puzzled faces. I appreciate the honest review.
Yeah, I understand you. I guess I think of him more in the light of a spoken word artist than a musician. Afterall, all it was his spoken word material on Slam and Def Poetry Jam that introduced me to him.kainen j wrote:Appreciate your comments. I looked up his lyrics in the meantime of my last post and his lyrics are that of tired subjects. He seems to be a very bright guy and intelligent and you can hear that through his music and passion though his lyrics don't set him apart from many others. Thanks for the clean up on Indentured servants but, you get what I'm saying.rabid_swine wrote:ha!@comparing "indentured servants" not slaves to actual slaves. There is a huge difference between the two. Indentured servants actually got paid in some form or another whether it be travel expense to a country or whatever. Also after their certain amount of time was up, indentured servants were free to go. Oh, and another thing, many indentured servants chose to become one and some would even quit before they finished their job. You, sir, read your history books. With that said, I don't expect you to understand Saul Williams, and that is not a knock on your intelligence. I don't understand Will Ferrell's comedic appeal. So I guess we all have our quirks. It's not promoting racism, quite the opposite actually. I think you are hearing the words but not listening to them. You are entitled to your opinion though. With that said I enjoyed Saul Williams quite a bit. I do, however, agree with your suggestion for him to include live musicians.kainen j wrote:Ok I just got back from the show, this being my 5th and here comes my Honest Reveiew, no bullshit...as usual:
Saul Williams: Ok I'm going to say GOOD and BAD things about him so before you freak out read it all. I feel I will make good points and i'm interested in your responses.
#1. It's embarassing and ridiculous for any musician of any musical style to get on stage with a mic and a second hand who presses buttons (play and stop) The DJ was also doing beat hits/snaps as well as spinning the wheel but his performance, from a musical perspective, would have had much more density and power with live musicians.
#2. One of the songs he performed is entitled "True Black." Now for you morons out there who don't know, this promotes racism. How well do you think it would roll over for a white 24 male (myself) and my band to go out and write a song called "True White" and write about the same subject matter but switch the color of skin. It's childish and is a sign of weakness. Some of you may say that it is called for because he is black and maybe his ancestors were slaves. I got news for you people... white, chinese, mexicans have all been slaves pre revolutionary war...read your history books, they're called indentured slaves. My point simply is this, we live in a free world as of status quo so stop bitching about the past. It's over, it's a tired subject...DROP IT!
#3. The DJ was fooling no one acting as if he was singing the backup vocals because sometimes (most times) he would miss he cues and then it just seemed like a stage act. Boo!!!
Ok now for positives:
#1. Great beats, strong music but lacks appropriate message.
#2. Great stage prescence and dynamic voice, but god does he need live musicians.
For all of you that might turn this against me to make it seem like i'm a racist, don't. You'll be making a fool of yourself.
Now for the real deal:
Nine Inch Nails:
Setlist is 100% on (sadly to say) because for the past year the name of this tour has been "Every Setlist is exactly the same." If anyone of you ever has a band and you get popular - DON'T DO THIS. Play it all and make all songs available to play by having your "SPIRAL" members vote for the stelist here and there out of your whole catalgue.
#1. Great energy on stage
#2. Killer lights though they don't come close to fragility or self destruct days.
#3. Out of the 9 shows i've seen Nine Inch Nails play this was by far the worst and thats a good thing because while they still were excellent the set is lacking originality, actually it's screaming/begging for it. Also the lights are of lower value, everyone who is a guitarist misses Robin.
#4. Highlight of the night???? Easy...Josh freese. Period, he's far better drummer than the last guy and defintely jerome and is by far the most boring drummer ever. I felt embarassed for him every night they toured with the dresden dolls. Oh Mr. Bukkake + dead souls were highlights.
#5. Trent said the band has been working on new material and are planning to record it, that was nice to hear. Also he thanked the crowd many times over and said we were a great crowd (though the 10,000 arena was 70% full...for you non math majors thats 7,000
#6. Did anyone else notice Josh did his intro drum part to march of the pigs one measure to early so the whole song the lights were off by one measure? God i was hoping someone else noticed that.
#7. It was funny as hell watching Trent about to kill over in laughter when he trhew the mics into the crowd and heard these terrible girls singing. Girls singing Nin doesn't sound rightl, especially when you're 14 going 12. Trent almost lost it though.
#8. Boo of the night goes to the chick in the back with a glow stick during hurt. Need I say more? Lighters are acceptable defintely, but a fucking glow stick? This isn't a rave.
During head like a hole my nose decided to burst in blood for no reason, probably due to sinus infection as of recent. So no ending remarks other than I mean everything I said.
For Nin I give show it's worst rating out of the 9 I've seen but seriously people it's Nin and when Nin shows aren't up to par or might be bad they're still pretty damn good. Let the flames begin!
As far NIN. I agree that the crowd was very mild-mannered. Some even looked around clueless to tracks like Burn and Dead Souls. The pit seemed to have energy though. I didn't think this was the worst NIN show I've seen. The inclusion of Sin, Mr. Bukkake and Dead Souls was enough for me not to rated the worst. Considering some of the setlist I've seen from previous shows on this Tour, and shows I've been to, I think we made out pretty well. And ha!@the horrid singing by that one girl. Eh, that probably made her life. I agree with you about the highlights of the night being Mr. Bukkake and Dead Souls. And I, in many ways, agree with you about set list montany but for the other 90% of the people who maybe just casual fans or can't follow NIN around the nation, it would suck to them. Majority rules I guess. I would love to see tracks like Twist, Happiness in Slavery, Get Down Make Love, and Supernaut (I know this is a 1000 Homo DJ track but hell, Suck is a Pigface track) live but if that were the case...crowd energy would be terrible because you would get the reaction you get like when they play Burn or Dead Souls. Puzzled faces. I appreciate the honest review.
The first part is very true as well as the latter. So how about those Nine Inch Nails? :p Oh yeah, another highlight of the night along with Dead Souls and Mr. Self Destruct....Saul Williams saying something along the lines of the fact that he can't take off a black shirt and have his black gone.orestes wrote:Slavery is alive and well in modern society, but that isn't the discussion of this particular thread.
Yes, I believe you are referring to the show at the Tabernacle prior to the show they had at Philips Arena.Pollack wrote:Yeah, most people had no clue what the fuck was going on during "Dead Souls".
However, I truly think the crowd is the x factor in how good a show is. This crowd was tame as fuck.
When I saw NIN in ATL during the club tour I was in the fucking balconey and it was 5x as wild as on the floor in the arena. The crowd was made of die hards and was fucking insane; most intense show I have ever been to. 90% of the people at this show had shirts on they had just bought at the merch booth. The crowd was a bunch of n00bs, and they acted accordingly. The band put on a great show.
btw, your right; "Piggy" sung by 14 year old girls or by rednecks in DEEP southern dialect makes peoples ears bleed.
Indeed, I was. Also, check out the edit-post link.rabid_swine wrote:Yes, I believe you are referring to the show at the Tabernacle prior to the show they had at Philips Arena.Pollack wrote:Yeah, most people had no clue what the fuck was going on during "Dead Souls".
However, I truly think the crowd is the x factor in how good a show is. This crowd was tame as fuck.
When I saw NIN in ATL during the club tour I was in the fucking balconey and it was 5x as wild as on the floor in the arena. The crowd was made of die hards and was fucking insane; most intense show I have ever been to. 90% of the people at this show had shirts on they had just bought at the merch booth. The crowd was a bunch of n00bs, and they acted accordingly. The band put on a great show.
btw, your right; "Piggy" sung by 14 year old girls or by rednecks in DEEP southern dialect makes peoples ears bleed.
Maybe you misunderstood me or perhaps I wasn't clear.rabid_swine wrote:Um. What are you talking about? They played the song.
No big deal. I'm not writing very clearly right now anyway, as it's a bit late and I'm quite tired. I should sleep.rabid_swine wrote:Yeah I did misunderstand. To me it read as if you didn't know they played Mr. Self-Destruct. I think the BAM! spooked me and threw me off.
ive seen a bunch of shows this tour and id say that most of them were pretty good and usually played a few songs that i wasnt expecting. last night wasnt one of those nights. had it been the only show ive been to then i suppose i wouldnt complain but trent even said during the show that he recognized the people in the front row who had seen the last few shows. im sure im not the only one who sees several shows and would like to see something other then closer done every night.BurtSampson wrote:Greg, you're quite the bitter man, aren't you? First you bitch about the set, the n you flaunt how big of a fan you are...
Nobody said this was the Grateful Dead. With the amount of production that goes into this show, you can bet your ass your going to see "generally" the same set of songs. They do a good job, in my opinion, of keeping it interesting and lately they have been going even further outside of the "norm" (see: LINE and MSD last night, MSD four straight shows, Deep etc). NIN are in a position where they have an obligation to play the "hits". MOST fans are not going to several shows on the tour, so you are in the minority. If they are still playing these same songs next year, you have a valid point to bitch about the setlists. I have seen them 9 times since 1994, and the Richmond VA show was quite possibly the best I've seen since my first show (I've seen them 5 times on the WT Tour). Also, it's really fucking hard to top your first NIN experience man. Once you see them, the element of surprise and mystery are greatly diminished.kainen j wrote:Let me sum it up for you.
For this being your first nin show: It was awersome
If this was your 2nd or third then it wasn't near as good, especially if those other two or three had been in the same year because you basically saw the same damn thing everytime.
Off-topic bickering and flame tossing removed. Take your history lessons elsewhere.Trollmanen wrote:how about we talk about the show instead of bickering back and forth.
Could you put it on Demonoid? The full show that is.Moke wrote:Since my last MP3 went over well I thought I would give you guys another one. Look for the rest of the show in the coming weeks on your favorite P2P network.
http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NHK ... SJS44N7VEJ
I havn't forgotten about you cats from Lexington. The rest of the show will be around as well.
I posted this on the first page but if you didnt catch it here it is again.dang wrote:what is the exact setlist
I must admit, I was wondering that exact same thing...amanda wrote:may i ask why Mr. Bukkake is called Mr. Bukkake?
You call that fuckin deep southern dialect? I'm sorry, but the people who managed to sing didn't sound southern at all. I live in South Carolina, by the way, I know what "DEEP southern dialect" sounds like.Pollack wrote:btw, your right; "Piggy" sung by 14 year old girls or by rednecks in DEEP southern dialect makes peoples ears bleed.
I suspect there was a high population of Clemson Greek in attendance as well, which are worse then any redneck.Kimma wrote:It wasn't just natives that were acting like drunk fucktards.
This is true.dunebug81 wrote:I suspect there was a high population of Clemson Greek in attendance as well, which are worse then any redneck.Kimma wrote:It wasn't just natives that were acting like drunk fucktards.
-Greg
As would I, but I saw no tapers, so it is unlikely.stigmata242 wrote:Yeah, I'd love to get this show in mp3. I thought this show was a lot better than Atlanta in October (Phillips) and that was my first time seeing them; the crowd was more into it, and the band was definitely more energetic this time around. I'm intrigued byt the idea of an amphitheatre tour this summer. Should be interesting to see how the band does it.
Wasn't the song "Last" in there somewhere as well?dunebug81 wrote:The setlist...in order.....after my edit
Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
Mr. Self Destruc t
Sin
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
MOTP
Closer
Burn
Gave UP
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
EDIETS
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
THTF
Head Like A Hole
What a shit setlist...the crowd was decent and the band seemed to be in good form. TR even gave a blurb about writing new music and he was enjoying himself. Then he went on to talk some shit about the Global Gathering festival and all the other bands suck...even Rob Zombie!
-Greg
Nopequestion wrote:Wasn't the song "Last" in there somewhere as well?dunebug81 wrote:The setlist...in order.....after my edit :) I must have forgotten to write down Terrible Lie.
Pinion
Love Is Not Enough
Mr. Self Destruc t
Sin
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
MOTP
Closer
Burn
Gave UP
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs
Beside You In Time
Piggy
Wish
Only
EDIETS
Reptile
Dead Souls
Suck
Hurt
THTF
Head Like A Hole
What a shit setlist...the crowd was decent and the band seemed to be in good form. TR even gave a blurb about writing new music and he was enjoying himself. Then he went on to talk some shit about the Global Gathering festival and all the other bands suck...even Rob Zombie!
-Greg