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2006/07/07 - Irvine, CA [Verizon Wireless Amphitheater]
2006/07/07 - Irvine, CA [Verizon Wireless Amphitheater]
dinah wrote:The crowd was pathetic. Everyone was too busy talking or getting up to get more beer.
Are you freaking kidding? Josh rocked. He was hitting those drums like a crazyman.X wrote: Josh, i realy expected more from him. This was my first tiem seeing him in the band and i was hoping for more. Just didtn't seem to catch my attention that much. (Although him pulling out a lighter durring Hurt an La Mer was amusing)
same here (with regards to the [with teeth] tour), and I agree... amazing showmagtig wrote:I've seen 3 shows off the With Teeth tour, 5-30-31 in San Diego (club tour), 9-20-05 in Fresno, and this show. Holy fuck! Definitely the best show I've ever seen NIN put on, just off the charts.
Yet, I think the effects on the screen tailored more to the crowd in the back. From where I was at, the LED curtain was just rows of blinking lights.melodicas wrote:i loved the show...and i guess everyone in here had better seats than me because i was in the terrace...so i missed a lot of little things the band did.
Maybe it's because you're from Pittsburgh (like me), but I think this is one of the most honest reviews of the show I've read. Kudos, man.jason745 wrote:This was my second show of this tour (Cleveland), and it's really amazing how the production has progressed. The interaction of the LED curtain against the backdrop projection had almost a 3 dimentional effect, especially during "Help Me..." I hope this translates well on a DVD.
Being a native Pittsburgher, this was my first experience at a large show in Southern California. Aside from the notorious difficultly you guys experience in even getting tickets here, it sucks even more when you arrive. My section was littered with meatheads that only knew the heavier songs and decided to talk and laugh over the slower ones, and a bunch of fucking blond OC bimbo's that would be talking on their cell phones and laughing about the party they were going to after the show. I mean, you would think that "Something I..." was an intermission or something. It also didn't help that the show wasn't mixed very loud.
Regardless, great show. Over the last 12 or so years I've been a fan of TR's project, we've really seen him grow and mature into a true showman. It is, without a doubt, plainly obvious what sobriety has done for him. The posturing, posing, dancing; it was all very Bono-ish. If you were able to go back in time to 1994, and show a nin fan a video of the Irvine show, they wouldn't even be able to tell you that was the same man. At the beginning of the With Teeth tour, I was kinda' put off by it; now I welcome the change.
Also: Aaron North can't play "The Big Come Down," so why to they keep letting him try?
I think I was left talking in adjectives after the show as well - I had an amazing time - I think overall I was in a pretty decent area - orch 3, row w - not the best but I got an amazing view - the guys in front of me saw that I am really not all that tall and actually shifted so I could get a great view. I missed Peaches - so sad but what time did she go on? I got there just as Bauhaus was starting - and that was like what 7:30pm? Anyway -overall great - didn't have any wait in line - just walked up and handed over my id.anig wrote:This show was great and amazing. I can't think of other adjectives to use right now, so sorry. It was my third time seeing them and I have to say each time I've seen them, they get better and better. Mainly because of Josh on the drums. I've never heard a drummer play so hard and loud.
Peaches was a lot of fun to watch when she ran around the seats.
Bauhaus was really good especially the guy on the bass (David J) and Daniel Ash. I was only familiar with their older songs since I've been listening to Crackle for awhile. At the end of their set, it looked like they were going to play Bela Lugosi's Dead, but didn't happen.
NIN was great and I was happy to see SICNH, Down In It, The Big Comedown, Even Deeper for the first time. The band had a lot of energy and it looked like they were having fun. The visuals were so cool esp. for HMIAIH.
Some complaints I have to say are: the guy behind us that had too much to drink, decided to vomit by our seats; the weather was not too bad, but it was hot for me; the traffic getting there and leaving there was horrible.
Peaches went on right around 7pm; her set lasted until 7:30ish. Bauhaus didn't get on stage until 7:45ish. There weren't that many people around during Peaches set; those who were there were mostly in the orchestra section/pit, though there were some people up in the loge area where I was sitting.pinkimartini wrote: I missed Peaches - so sad but what time did she go on? I got there just as Bauhaus was starting - and that was like what 7:30pm?
Thanks, man. Us Burgh ex-pats need to stick together.sooprnova wrote: Maybe it's because you're from Pittsburgh (like me), but I think this is one of the most honest reviews of the show I've read. Kudos, man.
RKS guitarFiraga wrote:Does anyone know what kind of guitar was used during Bauhaus' set? The silver one was fucking sexy looking!
Great seeing you again. I guess a lot of us won't see each other until the new tour starts, whenever that may be.GreatGazoo wrote:Everyone has already covered the show, so I'll just talk about my trip. Since it was a last second decision, I left Nor Cal bright and early Friday AM and got down to Irvine a little after noon. Met everyone, went to the show, and then headed back up North right after the show. Long ass day since I left at 6am and didn't get home until 7am the next day, but it was totally worth it! Anyway, I just want to send out a bunch of thanks to people.
First, thanks to magtig and miss baphomette for hanging out beforehand and getting me down to the orchestra section. You guys rock!
Second, thanks to Roger Water (the ETS one, not the real one) for getting me into the first row! And I guess i have to indirectly thank burnt_toast for jumping the rail and opening up that seat for me. Oh, and it was cool seeing Fuzn again too.
Last but certainly not least, Incendiarylover is the most awesomest person ever! I'll give her more love in the Mountain View thread, but thank you for everything, honey!
By the way, I met Susie/Raving_Bitch too. I'd have to say her reputation certainly preceeds her, but to each his/her own I guess.
Anyway, it was a great show and I had an awesome time. Thanks everyone!
that sounds about right...it seemed real chill - so much so that went nin went on - I swear people around me were like "oh no it's probably them just warming up still" -cynicmuse wrote:Peaches went on right around 7pm; her set lasted until 7:30ish. Bauhaus didn't get on stage until 7:45ish. There weren't that many people around during Peaches set; those who were there were mostly in the orchestra section/pit, though there were some people up in the loge area where I was sitting.pinkimartini wrote: I missed Peaches - so sad but what time did she go on? I got there just as Bauhaus was starting - and that was like what 7:30pm?
At Shoreline last night, Peter Murphy started singing "Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve" during Final Solution.pinkimartini wrote:that sounds about right...it seemed real chill - so much so that went nin went on - I swear people around me were like "oh no it's probably them just warming up still" -cynicmuse wrote:Peaches went on right around 7pm; her set lasted until 7:30ish. Bauhaus didn't get on stage until 7:45ish. There weren't that many people around during Peaches set; those who were there were mostly in the orchestra section/pit, though there were some people up in the loge area where I was sitting.pinkimartini wrote: I missed Peaches - so sad but what time did she go on? I got there just as Bauhaus was starting - and that was like what 7:30pm?
I was like "nooo that's not warming up."
I really did have an amazing time and gave it some thought about going up to mountainview but had to work super early this morning - there is always next time...
I really liked "final solution" - from what I was told they performed it at the last show and only teased head like a hole at the end?
thanks! hehe. I don't have a continuous video of the whole show, I just have a lot of smaller clips and things. I'm going to try and put them all together and post them here or the link to the torrent, mmk?synth wrote:ladyotms and you going to upload the whole video on a torrent like demonoid because thats amazing footage? good job.
ladyotms wrote:thanks! hehe. I don't have a continuous video of the whole show, I just have a lot of smaller clips and things. I'm going to try and put them all together and post them here or the link to the torrent, mmk?synth wrote:ladyotms and you going to upload the whole video on a torrent like demonoid because thats amazing footage? good job.
anyway, I'm sad that the FRC photos posted for this show kind of suck. I can see myself and my boyfriend in the one that shows the audience though.
This show was so fucking awesome. haha. I was so sad when "Head Like A Hole" started playing....why does it have to end?
I'm glad I sat next to some really nice people the whole show. I'm very pleased with how it all went.
My neck is still sore from a bit too much headbanging, hahaha.
nbps wrote:NIN SHOW #6 - Another Rant & Fodder For Thought.
Continued from COX canceled Tour, Drummer Harangue 9/05 - Page 5
Well it all started after I bought my $4.25 hot dog & couldn’t find any relish or onions so I asked at the concession stand if they had any & the answer was no. Like, what a ridiculous question. When I asked, “is relish & onions with my hot dog too much to ask for?” They said yes! ...Is that a NIN policy?
PEACHES... I was entertained. She & her drummer are my worst nightmare. I liked them & ROCK SHOW.
BAUHAUS...That bass player has the rudest sounding bass I have heard in a while. I mean it farts.The guitar player with the white fur coat, big shades, platform shoes that played sax reminded me of the garb Roxy Music (Eno, etc.) were wearing on their 1st & 2nd album inside cover (Virginia Plain & For Your Pleasure). Was he playing guitar with a bow or a drum stick or what?
NINE INCH NAILS...You were there or you have seen NIN. You enjoyed the show, rocked out, sang along & checked out the cool lighting.
Well, I have some really great CD’s from a guy that did some cutting edge Industrial rock (back in the day). Kind of like a fusion of BOWIE, KING CRIMSON & MINISTRY with a funk pop sensibility. Over time his music morphed with some unreal New Orleans rhythms & nod to the 70’s. His music & live drummer were the best. ...WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THAT GUY, HIS BAND & HIS DRUMMER?!?
People ASK ME WHY I LIKE NINE INCH NAILS. My reply has been that TRENT has some really great songs. No two songs or CD’s are the same and each require a different approach to the sequencing/drumming. As a drummer myself I have had the problem, when I join a band that every song is in the same genre. I really liked NIN’s diversity. NIN is the only band that has enough diversity that I would never feel bored or boxed in.
Having stated that I am disappointed that Trent's cool Industrial influence is now being homogenized. I know JOSH has a great rep. & is a pro in the music business. Honestly his drumming does little for me because he plays the same way on every song...too loud & hard. What is up with that? I was taught that when you strike a drum too hard you actually choke the drum and it won’t respond or be as loud. In other words over kill. I could not hear Josh’s hi hat cymbals or the ride or crashes. I know you all noticed that too. It does not matter how hard you hit a drum or cymbal if it is not miked properly.
Trent’s music encompasses rhythms and styles from different genres & eras yet he is determined to have his drummers play one dimensionally (GROHL’S self proclaimed RINGO meets BONHAM). Can’t he choose a drummer to play a variety of styles to meet each individual song? What happened to his New Orleans influence? Severly missing! May be I am giving Trent too much credit for the rhythms on his CD’s. Maybe his programmers & producers are the ones that deserve the credit & he doesn’t have a clue. Who knows for sure? JEROME.
Actually I was impressed with Josh on BURN but more so when I saw him using some tasty brush work playing VENUS with BARRY MANILOW on LARRY KING. I thought that was terrific. Why can’t he bring some of that sensibility to NIN. That’s right play brushes on a NIN song. That doesn’t mean he can’t rock on other songs. At the Aladdin it sounded like ONLY was coming together. At this show back to the same old bludgeoning like Alex at the COX. He/they should listen to some AVERAGE WHITE BAND-CUT THE CAKE & bring some of that vibe to ONLY. Or approach ONLY like MAMA TOLD ME NOT COME by 3 DOG NIGHT. STEVE FERRONE & FLOYD SNEED are killer drummers. Those are two completely different ways to approach that one song. Imagine the possibilities with all of Trent's compositions. Bringing a different yet appropriate vibe to each song (can you say “EVEN DEEPER”). If Josh is such a pro he ought to be able to do that. JEROME could & did & was able maintain his own swinging rock style within the context.
ANOTHER ANALOGY - Speaking of Venus, I use to play VENUS by THE SHOCKING BLUE in a cover band. The original recorded version (70’s psychedelic pop) is really cool. Then BANANARAMA came out with their version in the 80’s and it sucked. I thought I would have to kill myself. They took everything that was cool about the song and threw it out and left the rest. (maybe you can find both versions on Itunes & you will hear what I am talking about. The Venus mentioned with Manilow is a different Venus from FRANKIE AVALON, 1959)). That sums up my feelings with current NIN. They are throwing out or are not giving respect to the original versions OR VIBE of the songs and not even trying. I bet they/he/management believe that it doesn't matter because no one will notice because they think you are all a bunch of uninformed idiots. As long as NIN can be loud, Trent can say fuck the drummer can pummel and they can hide behind a wall of lighting...all is well. Ha..BS! Would you go to see NIN without a light show? Would the musicianship hold up by itself? The songs certainly would (STILL).
I guess for every fan like me they disappoint they acquire 5 more 15 year olds... Just what the world needs is another loud rock band catering to adolescents.
Trent now that your wallet is lined, on the next tour let’s get back to cutting edge Industrial Music with incredibly versatile live drumming. Will that be the State Fair Tour? To be fair I really liked the WITH TEETH CD. It grew on me. How come (to my knowledge) SUNSPOT was never played live? Looking forward to the next CD.
TRENT YOU HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, I AM YOUR BIGGEST FAN!
Parking problems... what parking problems? I have learned to leave during Hurt. Parked near the arena fence. Still got out of the lot in 5 minutes. Home by 11:30 PM.
PS.
The best way to describe my drumming style is 60’ s Pop, Progressive Mersey Beat Calypso Metal Bubble Gum combined with 70’s Funk/ Disco 90’s Bop Industrial Fusion Reggae. I usually play match grip & generally ride the hi hat on the left with my left hand & play the ride cymbal on the right with my right hand. Just received my Axis longboard double kick pedals. Oh yeah, I can play a shuffle just don’t ask me to brutally pummel.
Jinsai wrote:
I guess it'd be worth noting that Aaron fucked up the guitar part for La Mer, and it threw off the timing completely, so Trent just stared at him and started playing the piano really loud... That was the only "mistake" I noticed. The band is incredibly tight.
You are entitled to your opinion, however it is wise to actually be aware of the subject matter at hand. TR has clearly stated that he has no desire to play the same material over and over again. Specifically, the songs you heard on TDS tour will be altered by the musicians so as to avoid playing them the same way they were presented 10 years ago.nbps wrote: That sums up my feelings with current NIN. They are throwing out or are not giving respect to the original versions OR VIBE of the songs and not even trying. I bet they/he/management believe that it doesn't matter because no one will notice because they think you are all a bunch of uninformed idiots. As long as NIN can be loud, Trent can say fuck the drummer can pummel and they can hide behind a wall of lighting...all is well. Ha..BS! Would you go to see NIN without a light show? Would the musicianship hold up by itself? The songs certainly would (STILL).
I guess for every fan like me they disappoint they acquire 5 more 15 year olds... Just what the world needs is another loud rock band catering to adolescents.
Im sure he is really stoked about that. Dancing in his tighty whities even. Some dude in YET ANOTHER no name fucking shit band who thinks he knows all about the music business critisizing a proffesional, who has taken YOUR art form and made millions on it. Ask yourself this- why is it you are still a no name little shit playing in your moms garage and TR is playing to sold out arenas?nbps wrote: TRENT YOU HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, I AM YOUR BIGGEST FAN!
i wouldn't mind knowing this either. The bit before peaches with the heart lung machine and all that was awesome. also, trent has killer taste in classical music.digitald00m wrote:Does anyone know what songs were played on the PA after Bauhaus, before NIN?
It seems like after NIN played, they looped the same songs again. I really like the sound they had, and if anyone knows the names of the songs/artists... please tell...
Here's a link to what was being played during the fall; it seems to be what they were playing during the ampitheater tour. The classical music between Peaches and Bauhaus was selected by Bauhaus, not Trent.digitald00m wrote:Does anyone know what songs were played on the PA after Bauhaus, before NIN?
It seems like after NIN played, they looped the same songs again. I really like the sound they had, and if anyone knows the names of the songs/artists... please tell...
Thanks for the link. I really appreciate that.cynicmuse wrote:Here's a link to what was being played during the fall; it seems to be what they were playing during the ampitheater tour. The classical music between Peaches and Bauhaus was selected by Bauhaus, not Trent.digitald00m wrote:Does anyone know what songs were played on the PA after Bauhaus, before NIN?
It seems like after NIN played, they looped the same songs again. I really like the sound they had, and if anyone knows the names of the songs/artists... please tell...
magtig wrote:Did anyone else notice the camera man in Orch? He was in the middle about 4 or 5 rows up with what looked like a fairly professional camera, and a security guy with a blue shirt was there with him. Footage for the spiral perhaps?
I didn't see that cameraman, but I saw one in the walkway between the Orchestra and Loge sections. And he definitely had a professionial HD camera. Nothing was broadcast on the Spiral, so maybe he was part of the regular crew that's been recording all the shows in HD. I'm not 100% sure though.magtig wrote:Oh, and I asked a question on the first page, but I don't think very many people saw it. It sounds like you were standing very close to where I saw the camera man:magtig wrote:Did anyone else notice the camera man in Orch? He was in the middle about 4 or 5 rows up with what looked like a fairly professional camera, and a security guy with a blue shirt was there with him. Footage for the spiral perhaps?
Is it possible to upload this at rapidshare or megaupload again? I tried to download this, but I think it's gone... Please no torrent, I can't download torrents.ladyotms wrote:I've got a lot of pictures, and a few videos too. Here's one from Into the Void. I apologize about the shaking, I don't have a good video hand, heh. My boyfriend got some great videos and pictures as well. For now, here's this. Sorry if it takes a long time to download.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LQO0LBYJ Complete with Tambourine Trent ACTION and Jeordie clapping!
Gazoo--have you been to other shows on this leg of the tour?GreatGazoo wrote:I didn't see that cameraman, but I saw one in the walkway between the Orchestra and Loge sections. And he definitely had a professionial HD camera. Nothing was broadcast on the Spiral, so maybe he was part of the regular crew that's been recording all the shows in HD. I'm not 100% sure though.magtig wrote:Oh, and I asked a question on the first page, but I don't think very many people saw it. It sounds like you were standing very close to where I saw the camera man:magtig wrote:Did anyone else notice the camera man in Orch? He was in the middle about 4 or 5 rows up with what looked like a fairly professional camera, and a security guy with a blue shirt was there with him. Footage for the spiral perhaps?
Sure! That old file was very large, so my friend made it a lot smaller. The quality is a little less but it's much easier and faster to download. Here's a new link:Doré wrote:Is it possible to upload this at rapidshare or megaupload again? I tried to download this, but I think it's gone... Please no torrent, I can't download torrents.ladyotms wrote:I've got a lot of pictures, and a few videos too. Here's one from Into the Void. I apologize about the shaking, I don't have a good video hand, heh. My boyfriend got some great videos and pictures as well. For now, here's this. Sorry if it takes a long time to download.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LQO0LBYJ Complete with Tambourine Trent ACTION and Jeordie clapping!
Thank you!
DiscoBunny wrote:Thanks for the clarification...
So HD cameras= big ass cameras right?
I know they have been filming since the club dates back in '05---I just didn't realize how much they were filming---how detailed it was getting. The only person I ever really noticed with a video camera was Rob---and a few others at some of the larger shows...but I didn't recall seeing the big honking cameras at all the shows I went to...then again, not usually what I am paying attention to. I do remember seeing a tri-poded video camera behind the soundboard once...but I am usually so sleep deprived, I'm lucky I know which way the stage is.
And you totally know Mr. T would take thousands of hours of footage and lock it up in a vault---just beacuse he can!File it next to tapeworm and the EDIETS icebox video...hee hee.
As soon as they all get back from the Disney Cruise---I wanna see a DVD!
God that was a really fantastic show---I liked the gates way more than I ever thought possible.
These were not the tracks that played after Bauhaus (before NIN).cynicmuse wrote:Here's a link to what was being played during the fall; it seems to be what they were playing during the ampitheater tour.digitald00m wrote:Does anyone know what songs were played on the PA after Bauhaus, before NIN?
It seems like after NIN played, they looped the same songs again. I really like the sound they had, and if anyone knows the names of the songs/artists... please tell...
MeatbeatManifesto- "in the darkness" was one of themdigitald00m wrote:Does anyone know what songs were played on the PA after Bauhaus, before NIN?
It seems like after NIN played, they looped the same songs again. I really like the sound they had, and if anyone knows the names of the songs/artists... please tell...
That was lovely, thank you! This whole time I thought Peaches hadn't played that show, haha. Guess I just arrived too late.ScreamingSlave wrote:Here is a film montage of Irvine I put together enjoy !!!!!!
could you please upload it again?ladyotms wrote:I've got a lot of pictures, and a few videos too. Here's one from Into the Void. I apologize about the shaking, I don't have a good video hand, heh. My boyfriend got some great videos and pictures as well. For now, here's this. Sorry if it takes a long time to download.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LQO0LBYJ Complete with Tambourine Trent ACTION and Jeordie clapping!