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2007/03/04 - Birmingham, UK [Academy]

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2007-03-04 Show date
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2007/03/04 - Birmingham, UK [Academy]
Apparently the Spiral members got a pizza party and Year Zero listening experience at this show too. Click here for pictures!
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Master of the Ninth Arch
First post!

Alright (mostly not in order apart from first 7 songs or so):

Somewhat Damaged
Last
Ruiner
March of the Pigs
Piggy
Heresy
Closer
Burn
Gave Up
Help Me I Am in Hell
Eraser
Wish
Survivalism
Only
The Big Comedown
Suck
The Day the World Went Away
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Order might be mixed, although i'd say its pretty accurate.

Crazy night, I got a bottle in the eye during Ruiner and still kept jumpin'. Ladytron were a bit better than last night, nothing great.

Fucking awesome setlist, and extremely well pulled off. Bestshow I've seen them do.
Master ad Vitam
For my first NIN show, this was pretty amazing, here are some highlights..

*my favorite song ruiner was played, i nearly exploded with happiness

*singing along with this guy to survivalism when everybody else didn't know the words!

*when trent threw the microphone during piggy into the crowd , then got a big stage light and lifted it up in front of him and shone it on the audience =D

*Last, piggy, RUINER! , heresy ,the day the world went away!

*the swinging lights and immense amounts of smoke/fog . what was up with that.

*ladytron were quite good, seventeen sounded great.

*the way trent just walked on stage and everybody didn't notice really

All in all this show was great, for me if this was a shit show i still would have been happy with seeing nin for once in my life. but this shows setlist was freaking awesome i mean it was mental

Bad points.

*the almighty crush on everyone, and the sweat at the end (urgh)

*getting hit in the cheek with a cup, and my feet jumped all over

all in all i give this show an 11 out of 10

=) ahh awesome! A LOAD OF SONGS FROM TDS ! AHH! im smiling as i write this
Master Traveler
Just got back, a bittersweet gig for me, me and my girl of six years ended our relationship with this gig. A mutual thing and for the best but still not great.

However...

What a fucking gig to go out on, the energy that just wasn't there two years ago blew me away, the crowd were fucking fantastic and I have met some awesome people tonight. An amazing set and they played last. Fucking last. What a song.

I'm a wreck and it's part relationship damage but mostly NIN damage. Best fucking gig in a long time.

Sorry for the rant :)
Master of the Ninth Arch
Setlist (Pretty sure it's 100% accurate.)

Somewhat Damaged
Last
Heresy
March of the Pigs
Piggy
Ruiner
Closer
Burn
Gave Up
Help Me I Am In Hell
Eraser
Wish
The Big Come Down
Survivalism
Only
Suck
The Day the World Went Away
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole

Trent waved to me during the hand that feeds because I had the light turned on on my mobile phone. (I was on the balcony).

My personal favourite of the night was probably Heresy, as it was very unexpected.

The thing that annoyed me was the smoke though. There was too much of it. I understand that they used it at the start because Somewhat Damaged was meant to be a surprise, as it was so sudden.

I did get some good pictures and videos of this gig, and I look forward to sharing some when I get the opportunity to plug my phone in.

As for Ladytron; I felt that they just lacked sound really. I enjoyed one or two tracks, but they weren't as good as I expected them to be. Still good though.

All in all, tonight has been a night to remember. Fan-fucking-tastic.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Oh yeah - they could have fucking specified which line was the Spiral line. I waited for 20 god damn minutes in that line - before some lady thought it was time to tell us. This forced us all to go approximately one gijolimetre down the road to some line that was freezing and wet.
Master ad Vitam
yarmes wrote:Oh yeah - they could have fucking specified which line was the Spiral line. I waited for 20 god damn minutes in that line - before some lady thought it was time to tell us. This forced us all to go approximately one gijolimetre down the road to some line that was freezing and wet.
i noticed that too, but everone in the spiral line had "nin" logo's plastered all over them and the other line had ever so slightly less.

yeah that wait in the wet was crap, some people got soaked, but shit wa sit hot inside
Master Traveler
It's always hot in the academy!

Woo that was fun! I was up on the balcony on the stage left side and I took loads of pictures which I'll up in the morning. It was so barmy how they just suddenly appeared through the fog! I didn't hear the opening music though before they came on it was cool to hear the Horrors "Sheena is a Parasite" and Magazine.

Ladytron were cool, I really enjoyed them but most of the crowd looked fed up.

Trent was cool but didn't say much - I think I only heard him say thanks a few times though he did smile a couple of times at the crowd.

Aaron didn't stagedive but instead scaled the speaker stacks on the side of the stage at the end of Head Like a Hole. Will post a picture of that in the morning too! Security were waving at him but he was intent on getting feedback through it...
Bricklayer
Amazing night! Great sound, intense performance, lots of cool smoke, brilliant setlist, right in front of Trent, and to top it off, me and a girl I kinda chatted to before the show both got the mic for the "Nothing can stop me now" part of Piggy. I'm so fucking happy!
Master ad Vitam
IdiotequeDance wrote:Amazing night! Great sound, intense performance, lots of cool smoke, brilliant setlist, right in front of Trent, and to top it off, me and a girl I kinda chatted to before the show both got the mic for the "Nothing can stop me now" part of Piggy. I'm so fucking happy!

well done for catching the mic , and you forgot to mention that trent shone his big light on you :)

good one dude!
Bricklayer
leon wrote:
IdiotequeDance wrote:Amazing night! Great sound, intense performance, lots of cool smoke, brilliant setlist, right in front of Trent, and to top it off, me and a girl I kinda chatted to before the show both got the mic for the "Nothing can stop me now" part of Piggy. I'm so fucking happy!

well done for catching the mic , and you forgot to mention that trent shone his big light on you :)

good one dude!
Thanks! Of course, I did have the big light shone on me, but I was a bit too occupied to notice too much ;) Props to the italian (or spanish? sorry if you read this) girl in front of me, she actually caught the mic and held it back for both of us and another girl by me.
this was my first live gig experience EVER and it was FUCKING insane loved it
met some cool guys when we got crushed sang to most stuff jumped, cried at hurt its the best i have heard NIN live (i have dvd's etc) LOVED the set list!!!
fucking awesome night, the first half of ladytron's set was good, second half was a bit lost i felt.
NIN's performance was utterly insane, not a dud note or rhythm, great to hear a lot of stuff from the fragile! and to top it off i caught a water bottle from Trent. fantastic
Bricklayer
Great night, good setlist, much better than two years ago. Arrived too late to see Ladytron which was annoying.
Grand Pontiff
Fucking awesome!!

Got there 10.30am, lined up in the pissing rain all day but then we got to go in early and listen to Year Zero and have some pizza and drinks. Trent came out and said something like- its such a shitty day outside we thought we would get you inside in the dry to listen to the new album.
Its fucking amazing! God Given and The Great Destroyer are stand out tracks although In this twilight is still my favourite!! I noticed that the sound with the hidden picture of the presence wasnt in My violent heart it was in the song after it. All in all it just fucking rocked that they did that for us!!

Anyway- set was much better than Nottingham by a million miles. Highlights for me were Heresy (very cool live) and Survivalism although the whole set kicked my arse.

Am I the only one who likes Ladytron? I bought both their cd's last night and I really like them on stage!

I cannot fucking wait for tonight it will be amazing again I'm sure.

And for all those idiots bitching about the spiral last night.
1. Its not fucking exclusive- if you pay to you can be in the fan club and get all the benefits- dickhead.
2. All you at the front when we came out the listening party who were having a big old moan about having to go to the back- if you had been outside all day like us in the rain you would have been nearer the front too!!
Knight Aspirant
neon wrote: And for all those idiots bitching about the spiral last night.
1. Its not fucking exclusive- if you pay to you can be in the fan club and get all the benefits- dickhead.
2. All you at the front when we came out the listening party who were having a big old moan about having to go to the back- if you had been outside all day like us in the rain you would have been nearer the front too!!
Aye. i was the second person to get to the venue, and i wasn't going to give up my place in line for someone who couldn't be arsed to get out of bed in time. and was probably a good 6 inches taller than me.


great show. for once, i felt i had a crowd behind me - i perspired for the first time this tour! i think i'm in the depths of a cold now, but never mind it is very much worth it.

i love how i definitely have 1 up on ninjaw now
big up the circle of love during the listening. i wish we could have had our cameras just so we could take a picture of the little picnic we had going on.

also, trent, the fact that you've been singing the first three lines of closer directly to me since manchester is freaking me the fuck out! but still quite awesome.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Fucking Awsome Set!

Would have type up thought last night but was too bashed up to sit still. Anyway, first up the crowd were so much better than the last gig i went to (With teeth tour Birmingham 2005). As mentioned before at least this time we all got a sweat on!

Pretty close to the front but didn't see that much of the stage due to me being terminally short and everyone else being repugnantly tall. But there was movement in the crowd and most folk were jumping about so it kinda made up for it. Saw Twiggy mostly which wouldn't have been through choice cos he ain't the prettiest of folk. (sorry Jeordie fans but my allegiance lies with North) Is it me or was he looking pretty haggered last night? I noticed him giving someone the finger at some point - ya'know the way you do when you're a child - kinda pretending to scratch yer nose. Kinda funny.

Anyway. Set was amazing. So much TDS stuff. Highlights were hearing Heresy and Ruiner live for the first time. Piggy was cool too with Trent fishing about in the crowd with microphone and stagelight. Fantastic. It was kinda cool that nobody noticed when they first came on, and they just tore straight into Somewhat Damaged. Some drunk 8 year old next to me thought it was still the roadies setting up. Moron.

Lowlights. Not getting enough bruises! Damn it! I earnt em and my shoulder and arm hurt like hell but there's nothing to show for it all! Ladytron were pretty dull but then i wasn't expecting that much from them. It's surprised me because the crowd seemed to dig them a helluva lot more than Eagles Of Death Metal two years back, and they were pretty good.

P.S) Does anyone know what was playing when the gig finished? There was a track playing under the feedback and droning as we all sweatily made our way out but i could pick it out. Just curious.
Bricklayer
What a weird gig. Yeah, they sounded fantastic - but that's to be expected with the vast majority of music/sounds played by computer, and they've never sounded bad anyway. So no problems there. But the venue is just terrible; it's far too small and 'pub like' for music as multi-layered and as big in scope and sound as Nails. The fact that the new album is being promoted, and discovered, in such an exciting fashion - with an exploration of digital multimedia - only served to reinforce what a crap venue it is. I really hope that next time he tours the Midlands, he just does 2 gigs at the NEC instead of a handful of poor/small venues - his music, imagery and narrative desrve it.

The other weird thing about the show was the realisation that, despite TR rocking like a mofo and sounding better than ever vocally, he looked kinda old and slightly odd on such a small, restrictive stage. Again, i put this down to him performing in such a poor venue, which almost denies his music the proper context it deserves. If NIN were simply nothing more than a basic rock n' roll band, then it wouldn't matter as this venue is perfect for this type of music but NIN are anything but a simple rock n' roll band. Ultimately this made him look slightly out of place, and even old. Clearly this isn't true, as TR continues to push the boundaries of music in a variety of different ways, and is one of the freshest minds in music.

As for the set list, far too much TDS. I can appreciate that some people haven't heard some of the 'classics' performed live before but i wanted to hear the new stuff off the upcoming album, and more stuff from With Teeth. Even so, what they did play sounded great and was performed with real passion.

Strange night.
I absolutely loved this show! they opened with the song of my life -- Somewhat Damaged!... I just could'nt believe my luck!

rst time seeing NIN live, and as others have already mentioned -- what a set-list! I was up on the balcony and the view from there was simply fantastic. Loved everything, (even the smoke!)... The people were great. It was nice to see people of varying ages and ethnic make-ups there too, the crowds were superb and the band were really on the fucking ball. Flawless performance! Trent really enjoyed himself and so did we :)
"does 2 gigs at the NEC instead of a handful of poor/small venues" -

NO, NO NO - Large souless aircraft hanger with crap acoustics!

"he looked kinda old and slightly odd on such a small, restrictive stage. "

He ain't no spring chicken, what an odd comment to make?

"As for the set list, far too much TDS."

It seems that this is most peoples highlight off this tour?

"Strange night."[/quote]

Strange post.
leon wrote:*singing along with this guy to survivalism when everybody else didn't know the words!
If you were like three rows from the front, and the guy you were singing with was young, slightly bearded with longish hair, that would be me :-)



It was an absolutely amazing show. Perfect in so many ways...even waiting four hours in the freezing cold rain at the front of the non-Spiral queue was great, some really cool people there. The setlist was brilliant, mostly TDS and Broken, which is my favourite NIN material. Survivalism was brilliant live, wished they'd played In This Twilight though.
Bricklayer
If hearing TDS songs played live is the highlight for most people - that's cool for them, but it's certainly not mine. I suppose it's because it's not my favourite NIN album. Big deal. I can live with it.

As classing the NEC, or similar type stadiums, as souless that's just lazy stereotyping. I don't want to go to a gig to see a performer up close and personal, i want to experience something akin to something that is expressed through the multi-layered lyrics, imagery and sound. People who go to gigs just to be 3 feet away from their idols are mindless automatons who would purchase a 4 hour CD of TR farting and playing spoons, and would tell everyone it was 'amazing'. Me, i'm not.

Yeah the guy is getting on, but it only shows when put on a small stage in a traditional 'publike' rock n' roll venue. Therefore why stoop to that level and limit yourself? NIN are not a conformist, traditional band, so why pretend to be?

It wasn't a strange post. It was an honest, non-sycophantic one.
Master of the Ninth Arch
*As classing the NEC, or similar type stadiums, as souless that's just lazy stereotyping. I don't want to go to a gig to see a performer up close and personal, i want to experience something akin to something that is expressed through the multi-layered lyrics, imagery and sound. People who go to gigs just to be 3 feet away from their idols are mindless automatons who would purchase a 4 hour CD of TR farting and playing spoons, and would tell everyone it was 'amazing'. Me, i'm not. *

Alright! Calm Down! Genesis'll be reformed soon enough!
Bricklayer
I had a great night! Thank the gods they are still playing smaller venues, I prefer this to the larger arenas. I love the way such a small place is having to contain so much energy.

I wish people would get over the fact TR is getting older - so what, aren't we all but he still gives it everything and for that I am grateful. Having been to few gigs on this tour - the setlists are varied ans they have played so many of my favourites.

I am having FUN on this tour. I love it. I wish I had travelled around to see the band like this before! Though I have to say the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I can feel myself starting to get sick.

Well, I should go and get ready for tonight.

(and whoever that woman was being rude to Brandie from the Spiral before we went in - she needed a good slap.
Grand Inspector
Wow. What a show.

Although I felt the audience was pretty tame, it was a GREAT show. In my opinion, out of the 9 times I've seen them, this was by far the best set list (however, not the best gig, it was still fucking incredible and is near the top).

Heresy AND Ruiner? I thought I was dreaming.

After a 3 hour train journey (which was meant to be 1hr 30), I arrived to a wet and drizzly Birmingham and arrived at the venue at 11am, where I was the 6th in the queue. The day mainly consisted of slave2thewage, neon, icklekitty and schteph and I talking about random things and making silly dances. Yes, we were super mature.

At about 4:30 we were let in to hear the whole of "Year Zero" and were given Pizza Express pizzas (which I thought was pretty up market, and was told by the others that it was MUCH better than the pizza given out at Manchester).

Year Zero is an AMAZING album. It wipes the floor with With_Teeth. My personal favourite track was "Capital G", special mention also goes to "Hyperpower!" and "God Given". It's just such an amazing album, a completely different sound. The album runs for approximately 80mins.

After that, we were taken outside for about an hour and then let back in again. All the early queuers (myself included) ended up in the spots they wanted and the Spiral queue was run very well.

Ladytron were BORING. BORING BORING BORING. That is my review of them. They do not move.

As for Nine Inch Nails, that's a completely different story. This was my 9th time for them (and my second time seeing them in this venue) and it was MUCH better than last years performance. It was also my first time seeing them play with Josh Freese (who is SUPERB).

During March of the Pigs, when Trent puts the water bottle between his legs and does you know what, he made a direct aim for my face. lol

Heresy AND Ruiner in the same set list?!?!? That was just fucking incredible. Last, The Big Come Down, Survivalism, Wish, Burn, MOTP and Suck were also personal faves. Just pretty much the set list of my dreams. I couldn't get over it, so much so that I think I must have annoyed icklekitty and slave2thewage by constantly turning to them and going "this set list is AMAZING".

And the evening ending with me getting Josh Freese's drumstick and Aaron's guitar pic. Such an incredible night. Bring on the 4 London shows!
Master Traveler
Some of my photos:

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Aaron on the stack!

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I've put loads on Flickr so feel free to peruse them.
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Grand Inspector
whats the flickr url?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Archives of Pain, I think you were the girl near me with the digital cam. I was taking photos on my phone all night! If you were near a small blonde girl then thats me haha.
Were you with some dude with long-ish blond hair and a spiderman tattoo?
Master ad Vitam
those are some cool pics archives of pain! anyone got anymore pics or vids?

oh by the way, you dindt get when trent was holding up the light for piggy! that would have been a cool photo!
Top show - awesome setlist - poss best show so far for me, despite the fact I dont like the venue and they didnt play 'Reptile' (1 show out of 6 so far!)
What time are they letting the spiral ticketholders in? not managed to hear the album yet and we've had spiral tiz for 4 of the gigs.
Unfortunately, last night was the 1st show we've seen Ladytron - truly bloody horrendous.
It's great that the setlist is getting shuffled about so much though - its crap when you travel about and a band churns out the same setlist each show.
Why do some wankers insist on making themselves heard by shouting during 'Hurt' - I was chuffed it got dropped 2nd night at Glasgow as it was full of gobshites
hope in hell wrote:If hearing TDS songs played live is the highlight for most people - that's cool for them, but it's certainly not mine. I suppose it's because it's not my favourite NIN album. Big deal. I can live with it.

As classing the NEC, or similar type stadiums, as souless that's just lazy stereotyping. I don't want to go to a gig to see a performer up close and personal, i want to experience something akin to something that is expressed through the multi-layered lyrics, imagery and sound. People who go to gigs just to be 3 feet away from their idols are mindless automatons who would purchase a 4 hour CD of TR farting and playing spoons, and would tell everyone it was 'amazing'. Me, i'm not.

Yeah the guy is getting on, but it only shows when put on a small stage in a traditional 'publike' rock n' roll venue. Therefore why stoop to that level and limit yourself? NIN are not a conformist, traditional band, so why pretend to be?

It wasn't a strange post. It was an honest, non-sycophantic one.
I really don't get you. Stereotyping the NEC as souless isn't lazy it's fact. Trent getting on a bit only shows in a traditional publike rock n' roll venue is one of the most bizarre comments I have ever seen on this board! Playing venues like the Manchester Apollo as opposed to the NEC or MEN Arena completley underlines your point that they are not conformist surely?
Master Traveler
Starfucker wrote:Archives of Pain, I think you were the girl near me with the digital cam. I was taking photos on my phone all night! If you were near a small blonde girl then thats me haha.
Were you with some dude with long-ish blond hair and a spiderman tattoo?
Yeah I might have been. I was with a guy with long blonde hair and glasses but he doesn't have a tattoo. I was wearing a Downward Spiral t-shirt with my jumper tied round my waist? I have long hair too but it was tied back.

As for Trent shining the light on the audience, yeah I did take one:

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There's lots more in flickr set
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Master of the Ninth Arch
found out today that I scratched my cornea during this gig with all them damn bottles flying about, and that if the bottle had hit me maybe a centimetre or two to the left I would probably have been blinded in my right eye!

awesome way to enjoy a show!
Master ad Vitam
yarmes wrote:found out today that I scratched my cornea during this gig with all them damn bottles flying about, and that if the bottle had hit me maybe a centimetre or two to the left I would probably have been blinded in my right eye!

awesome way to enjoy a show!
urgh thats terrible, yeah there were a few wankers throwing bottles i got hit in the cheek, it hurt for a couple of seconds, but in the eye, ouch! i hope it didnt ruin the show.

wow now we know that trent must have but his all into singing last night! he must have strained it during last, but unlucky for those in birmingham that didnt see them last night
Bricklayer
I am so confused...
I've been slightly dreading the Brummy gig all week because i know how rough they can be - but it was fine!!
I was second row, directly in front of Aaron for the entire gig, and i wasn't even very hot...I was pretty damn comfortable, actually.
was it really that wild? 'cos it seemed calmer than the Manc gigs to me - but Trent complained about those, lol.

Damn! it was incredible! I loved how Trent kind of grooved to Piggy & Closer...it was very sexual; very very sensual. & Jeordie seemed to be getting into it more, this time! I saw him jumping around a little more, hehe. and he winked at me! I yelled at him, and he looked directly at me, winked, and smiled back at me when i smiled & screamed in reply, hehe.

Aaron was wild! I love his guitar style so much; the way he kept jumping on the amps and everything was great.

I just can't believe i felt plectrums flying through my fingers, but didn't catch one...grr....I got tons of pictures - not checked out the quality yet.

Why do so many of you dislike Ladytron? 3rd time seeing them, it just gets better! I love their style. Me & my sister both screamed when they played...uh...that song that's in Bulgarian (no idea what it's called) It was great!

Anyway. Does anybody else find it sickening how everyone cheers and claps during Hurt...?
I mean, i normally join in...but last night it just hit me... - everybody's applauding his pain, aren't they? it just seems really heartbreaking..I stood silently throughout the whole song..
but i did like how Trent sang "my sweetest friends" it really connected.
That was the first night that Hurt *really* got to me..


NIN! <3
Master of the Ninth Arch
leon wrote:
yarmes wrote:found out today that I scratched my cornea during this gig with all them damn bottles flying about, and that if the bottle had hit me maybe a centimetre or two to the left I would probably have been blinded in my right eye!

awesome way to enjoy a show!
urgh thats terrible, yeah there were a few wankers throwing bottles i got hit in the cheek, it hurt for a couple of seconds, but in the eye, ouch! i hope it didnt ruin the show.
Naaah, all was good, cheers. It was during Ruiner, as well; the fucker who threw it could have at least waited until Burn! I just kinda shrugged it off and decided it'd have to wait until the end.

Sucks that the second show is cancelled, I didn't have tickets (which is lucky) but now we've got a slight indication of when they'll be back and that its Reading/Leeds time. I really hope for people like icklekitty, etc who have been following the UK shows that the rest aren't cancelled too, which was mentioned in the tour discussion forum.

I also hope this doesn't meanhe has to drop some songs with a lot of screaming, like WITT and Last! That'd suck so much.
Yarmes - can you provide a link to the 'tour discussion' bit about the possibility of the rest of the tour being cancelled please?
Apparently, cheers though!
the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
did anyone else notice trent is drinking again?
Site Admin
MrAd wrote:did anyone else notice trent is drinking again?
This happens every time Trent gets sick. He brings a medicinal throat-soothing-drink onstage. It's not alcohol.
lol seriously? I'll go back to my corner now :). Looked like a nice beer to me though heheh.
Grand Inspector
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Master ad Vitam
i was there wrote:The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
You always have to be there early for whatever is happening, be it soundcheck, meet'n'greet, or Year Zero gourgefests.

Yes, those people who were there on time and taken inside had a right to go back to their places at the front of the queue. That's how it works. They queued so as to be allowed in to the spiral event, and also queued from early so as to get to the front of the venue. Lesson: If you want to make sure you are at the front of the queue, get there early. Not rocket science. Also, use of the phrase "dirty slut" pissed me off. She's perfectly lovely and does her job just fine. Quit complaining simply because you missed out.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner.
I haven't seen an internationally renowned band charge as little as £10 for a shirt in a long time. There's no rule that says you have to buy merch. That's not abuse.

I'm glad you enjoyed the show, and now you know, next time, get there early if you want in to the spiral stuff/at the front of the queue. The only person to blame for missing both is you.
Grand Inspector
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
I really hope you die in a fire tonight. AND LEARN TO FUCKING SPELL.
Master ad Vitam
i was there wrote: charging £18 for a tshirt,
ive seen bands charge 25 pound no friggin joke

but everyone has started complaining about the gig, i had no problems jsut tiny gig annoyances that you get at every gig,

like the drunk 14yr olds who are up waaay past their bedtime
Bricklayer
fall down real far wrote:
I really don't get you. Stereotyping the NEC as souless isn't lazy it's fact. Trent getting on a bit only shows in a traditional publike rock n' roll venue is one of the most bizarre comments I have ever seen on this board! Playing venues like the Manchester Apollo as opposed to the NEC or MEN Arena completley underlines your point that they are not conformist surely?[/quote]

I think they got the dry ice machine from the NEC. At one point I thought I was on the set of 'A Towering Inferno'.

Hurt was superb. Hope that version's on the new DVD.
Bricklayer
i was there wrote: Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner. quote]

I got a Nails shirt from some bloke outside for a tenner. Better design than the ones inside & made by Fruit Of The Loom. Nice.

What's a 'Normal Band'?
Tone, the version of hurt Trent played IS on Beside You in Time its an amazing DVD but i think he played a better show here than he did on BYiT...
Bricklayer
fall down real far wrote:
'I really don't get you. Stereotyping the NEC as souless isn't lazy it's fact.'

Oh is that a fact. Can you source your defintion of this fact? No, didn't think so. But then, i don't suppose logic is your strong point. Unless of course you're advocating a postmodernist interpretation of reality based on Lyotard's theory, in which case, one does have to recognise that an individual's perception is their reality. Ultimately then, it could be argued that your claim is indeed a 'fact' but only in your own head.

Ultimately a venue is nothing more than an area of space; some have more capacity than others. Therefore it could be argued that certain types of performing arts, and artists, are better suited to those areas where expression and performance is not impeded, or impinged on, by spacial, impractical restrictions, which is what my review expressed; based on my observations.

To be clear then: it is my opinion that the Birmingham Academy is a piss poor venue and unfit to showcase one of the most important, original, exciting talents in music history.

Oh, and their toilets are full of piss as well, as i found out when i collapsed in one their cubicles and floated on the piss-soaked floor. Now that's what i call rock and roll.
Piss poor venue? i think you clearly didnt enjoy it - because you fell in a puddle of urine (well done on that by the way). The acoustics of the academy were fantastic for the size of the place when compared to other venues around the country. OK it was a little beat up and could do with a renovation, but if anything, it added to the character of the place.
In related news, freaking awesome night.
Prince Adept
last nights gig was the first time that i felt like i'd been at a nin show.

sweaty, sore legs and a weird need to eat more PIZZA.

BRING ON THE METRO you PIGS
Knight Aspirant
azure wrote:
i was there wrote:The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
You always have to be there early for whatever is happening, be it soundcheck, meet'n'greet, or Year Zero gourgefests.

Yes, those people who were there on time and taken inside had a right to go back to their places at the front of the queue. That's how it works. They queued so as to be allowed in to the spiral event, and also queued from early so as to get to the front of the venue. Lesson: If you want to make sure you are at the front of the queue, get there early. Not rocket science. Also, use of the phrase "dirty slut" pissed me off. She's perfectly lovely and does her job just fine. Quit complaining simply because you missed out.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner.
I haven't seen an internationally renowned band charge as little as £10 for a shirt in a long time. There's no rule that says you have to buy merch. That's not abuse.

I'm glad you enjoyed the show, and now you know, next time, get there early if you want in to the spiral stuff/at the front of the queue. The only person to blame for missing both is you.

pwnz0zr0z
Master of Achievement
Christo wrote: Ladytron were BORING. BORING BORING BORING. That is my review of them. They do not move.
PLEASE INSERT GIRDER!

Yeah, it was fucking amazing, my fave show so far. And we gaydanced to Survivalism and I got water jizzed on too.
Grand Pontiff
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
Hey dude- totally fuck you! The perfectly nice lady in charge of the spiral has made life easy for loads of us who turned up in time. If you want to get into the sound checks, meet and greets and listening parties I suggest you get your lazy arse outta bed early and come que with us in the rain!! I find your language describing this woman offensive and suggest you watch your fucking mouth.

Gutted that the gig tonight was cancelled but we made our own fun ;) Much love to everyone in the spiral que who we hung with all day- you know who you are!!
Cant wait to see them in London and Wolverhampton!!
Dear neon,

The word you intended to use is "queue." Please make note of this for all future correspondence.

Sincerely,

Your Dictionary
Bricklayer
hope in hell wrote:fall down real far wrote:
'I really don't get you. Stereotyping the NEC as souless isn't lazy it's fact.'

Oh is that a fact. Can you source your defintion of this fact? No, didn't think so. But then, i don't suppose logic is your strong point. Unless of course you're advocating a postmodernist interpretation of reality based on Lyotard's theory, in which case, one does have to recognise that an individual's perception is their reality. Ultimately then, it could be argued that your claim is indeed a 'fact' but only in your own head.

Ultimately a venue is nothing more than an area of space; some have more capacity than others. Therefore it could be argued that certain types of performing arts, and artists, are better suited to those areas where expression and performance is not impeded, or impinged on, by spacial, impractical restrictions, which is what my review expressed; based on my observations.

To be clear then: it is my opinion that the Birmingham Academy is a piss poor venue and unfit to showcase one of the most important, original, exciting talents in music history.

Oh, and their toilets are full of piss as well, as i found out when i collapsed in one their cubicles and floated on the piss-soaked floor. Now that's what i call rock and roll.
Here's my $0.02 on this discussion. The NEC Arena is not, in fact, a purpose built arena. It is simply one huge room with "temporary seating" around the outside (that stuff that folds away). It is not purpose built like the MEN in Manchester, NIA in Birmingham and Wembley Arena in London. I can say this because I've been to all of those venues. This is fact. Just off the the top of my head, bands / artists I've seen at the NEC are Depeche Mode (three times), Smashing Pumpkins, Jamiroquai, Foo Fighters, Black Sabbath and Julio Iglesias (I took my mum). Every time I get there (usually after paying quite a lot in a parking cost) I wish that I was watching the band at a smaller venue, or that I hadn't simply gone. This is fact.

BTW, my mate has some photo's up from this gig on his website www.rock-photo.com
Bricklayer
Actually the last point in your main paragraph (about wishing you had seen Julio etc, in a smaller venue) is a personal opinion. That's a fact.

Sorry, i'll get me coat.
Grand Pontiff
dictionary wrote:Dear neon,

The word you intended to use is "queue." Please make note of this for all future correspondence.

Sincerely,

Your Dictionary
Dear Dictionary

Thank you so much for correcting my spelling.
Twat.

Sincerely
Neon
Bricklayer
slave2thewage wrote:
Yeah, it was fucking amazing, my fave show so far. And we gaydanced to Survivalism and I got water jizzed on too.
Oh so THAT was what you two were doing during Survivalism! I was stood right behind you - I wondered what the wiggling was in aid of.
Grand Inspector
The Bluebell Faery wrote:
slave2thewage wrote:
Yeah, it was fucking amazing, my fave show so far. And we gaydanced to Survivalism and I got water jizzed on too.
Oh so THAT was what you two were doing during Survivalism! I was stood right behind you - I wandered what the wiggling was in aid of.
It was the super awesome gay dance I made up in the queue of course!
Master Traveler
Quick question, was it during the big comedown where Trent was twitching in time to the bleepy noises? I was trying to remember to explain to my friend...

Btw gaydanceing to survivalism sounds like fun! Reminds me of when my (male) friend wore a skirt when he went to see Slipknot at Brixton a few years back! Yes he did come out unscathed. Though I think that was because weapons were confiscated at the door.
Bricklayer
The Birmingham Academy is a shithole. Even Brixton Academy is far better than brum & that's falling down. The thing with Brixton, like the NEC, is no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage. I mean, that's what you pay cash for; to see the band. Birmingham Academy is a club & not really designed for such events. Especially when Captain Smoke Master gets his clammy hands on the dry ice machine. No wonder Trent cancelled the following night, probably got smoke damaged lungs.

That's twice I've seen Nails at this venue, never again. It breaks my heart to struggle to see such a hero of mine in that crap hole. Should've waited for the Civic tickets on Monday. That's a far better venue with good sound & view & the beer doesn't taste like the bloke who slipped in the bogs rung out his pants in it.
Skint now though so I'm bolloxed.

The lead singer of Ladytron:
Would ya?
OK, you've seen NIN twice at the academy? there should be bells ringing in your head that there's a reason for that. I seriously doubt that Trent would play the same venue twice if he thought it was that much of a shit-hole.
Anyway, i'm sure you just forgot to moisturise that morning - peace out
Bricklayer
themutantcow wrote:OK, you've seen NIN twice at the academy? there should be bells ringing in your head that there's a reason for that. I seriously doubt that Trent would play the same venue twice if he thought it was that much of a shit-hole.
Anyway, i'm sure you just forgot to moisturise that morning - peace out
Another arse who reckons Reznor has control of everthing. I'm blaming his agent. What's this moisturise crap? Why don't you take ya thumb out ya arse & listen to reason. The only reason I've seen them twice at that dive is 'cause last time there was no other option. Peace off hippy!
Master ad Vitam
academy is crap , ok we get it , most people had a good time im guessing?
its ok , academy will have gone in a few years they are starting to tear it down in 08 along with the oasis market.

but anyone know if this show was bootlegged?
Bricklayer
The only bootlegging going on sunday night involved the bar; I'd never had a can of Red Strip before that night.

As for Ladytron, i'd bang 'em both on a weekly basis as long they promised not inflict their dull, insipid music on me. Shit on me, they were God awful - why couldn't the smoke machine have gone on a rampage when they were on. The only thing worse than them was this nonce stood next to me covered in moisturiser singing along to Nails all fucking night. Even the security guards wanted to give him a kicking. Complete twat. Smelt nice though.
I thought the venue was really good, the open bars are cool, and the balcony in nice and low. The only bad thing is the cloackroom, the bars mean its a real tight squeeze to get your full rucksack in.
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.

You are SUCH a motherfucking asshole. Go die. You certainly did NOT deserve to see NIN.
hope in hell wrote:The only bootlegging going on sunday night involved the bar; I'd never had a can of Red Strip before that night.

As for Ladytron, i'd bang 'em both on a weekly basis as long they promised not inflict their dull, insipid music on me. Shit on me, they were God awful - why couldn't the smoke machine have gone on a rampage when they were on. The only thing worse than them was this nonce stood next to me covered in moisturiser singing along to Nails all fucking night. Even the security guards wanted to give him a kicking. Complete twat. Smelt nice though.
Yeah right he was near me, my god he was greasy, him and the girl he was with!
Tone wrote:
themutantcow wrote:OK, you've seen NIN twice at the academy? there should be bells ringing in your head that there's a reason for that. I seriously doubt that Trent would play the same venue twice if he thought it was that much of a shit-hole.
Anyway, i'm sure you just forgot to moisturise that morning - peace out
Another arse who reckons Reznor has control of everthing. I'm blaming his agent. What's this moisturise crap? Why don't you take ya thumb out ya arse & listen to reason. The only reason I've seen them twice at that dive is 'cause last time there was no other option. Peace off hippy!
OK, you blame his agent? they wouldnt let the person they were representing perform at an inadequate venue - it wouldnt look too impressive on their record or in the bands eyes. Think about your facts before you spew rubbish.
Bricklayer
I didn't think your mom looked that greasy Wrongfinger!
hope in hell wrote:Actually the last point in your main paragraph (about wishing you had seen Julio etc, in a smaller venue) is a personal opinion. That's a fact.

Sorry, i'll get me coat.
Don't slam the door on your way out.
hope in hell wrote:The only bootlegging going on sunday night involved the bar; I'd never had a can of Red Strip before that night.

As for Ladytron, i'd bang 'em both on a weekly basis as long they promised not inflict their dull, insipid music on me. Shit on me, they were God awful - why couldn't the smoke machine have gone on a rampage when they were on. The only thing worse than them was this nonce stood next to me covered in moisturiser singing along to Nails all fucking night. Even the security guards wanted to give him a kicking. Complete twat. Smelt nice though.
Sorry, that was me. I apologise for enjoying myself.
Tone wrote:The Birmingham Academy is a shithole. Even Brixton Academy is far better than brum & that's falling down. The thing with Brixton, like the NEC, is no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage. I mean, that's what you pay cash for; to see the band. Birmingham Academy is a club & not really designed for such events. Especially when Captain Smoke Master gets his clammy hands on the dry ice machine. No wonder Trent cancelled the following night, probably got smoke damaged lungs.

That's twice I've seen Nails at this venue, never again. It breaks my heart to struggle to see such a hero of mine in that crap hole. Should've waited for the Civic tickets on Monday. That's a far better venue with good sound & view & the beer doesn't taste like the bloke who slipped in the bogs rung out his pants in it.
Skint now though so I'm bolloxed.

The lead singer of Ladytron:
Would ya?
The venue may not be spectacular, but I find that the quality of people is nearly always better at Brum's academy than other places... the people there are much friendlier and sympathetic compared to the twats who attend Brixton Academy on a regular basis.

Brixton Academy = a bunch of fuckwits who are only there to kick the shit out of you and make your night fucking miserable.

Birmingham Carling Academy = People who are there to actually enjoy the fucking show!
leon wrote:academy will have gone in a few years they are starting to tear it down in 08 along with the oasis market.
Shame really. I am really going to miss that place, especially the balcony. Good times sir, good times :)
i was there wrote: Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt

it wasnt nin its the academy thats what they have to charge its teh goin rate now other places itd be 15 quid im sure of it
maninacan wrote:
i was there wrote: Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt

it wasnt nin its the academy thats what they have to charge its teh goin rate now other places itd be 15 quid im sure of it
The T-shirt prices were expensive (okay, they were fucking absurd) but I have actually seen higher prices than £18. It could have been worse! And at least with NIN, you know you're getting good quality merchandise (not some shitty DIY job with a NIN logo that looks like a crooked Russian postage stamp!)
[/quote]


You are SUCH a motherfucking asshole. Go die. You certainly did NOT deserve to see NIN.[/quote]

hahahahahaha
The Dark Knight
Hey assholes. Shut the fuck up if you weren't at the show.
Bricklayer
I'm sure we can all appreciate the words of wisdom there from the Dark Knight despite suffering from a severe case of Tourettes.

As for the price of the merchandise, it didn't strike me as particlularly expensive, the only trouble was it was all smoke damaged cos of that mad bastard smoke machine; the local paramedics were selling iron-lungs outside.
Bricklayer
OK, you blame his agent? they wouldnt let the person they were representing perform at an inadequate venue - it wouldnt look too impressive on their record or in the bands eyes. Think about your facts before you spew rubbish.[/quote]

Think about life in general! You're saying it's impossible for mistakes to be made or the lack of option in brum, or maybe you just think it's impossible for somebody to do there job badly?
Just try to think. Don't be scared, you might like it.

Who was the guy standing next to me stinkin' of piss?
Bricklayer
NinNonce wrote:
The venue may not be spectacular, but I find that the quality of people is nearly always better at Brum's academy than other places... the people there are much friendlier and sympathetic compared to the twats who attend Brixton Academy on a regular basis.

Brixton Academy = a bunch of fuckwits who are only there to kick the shit out of you and make your night fucking miserable.

Birmingham Carling Academy = People who are there to actually enjoy the fucking show!
I wasn't praising Brixton, Christ no! Just comparing.
Birmingham Carling Academy obviously has a fan base. I'm not knockin' it has a club. Just not, in my opinion, a good venue for a live band especially a band as mammoth as Nails.
Bricklayer
Are you the bloke who told me he'd seen NIN live at L'oreal? What with your face smeared in clown cream and that twatting smoke monster no wonder my nuts packed in and flooded me knickers.
hope in hell wrote:I didn't think your mom looked that greasy Wrongfinger!
haha touche
Grand Pontiff
Tone wrote:The Birmingham Academy is a shithole. Even Brixton Academy is far better than brum & that's falling down. The thing with Brixton, like the NEC, is no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage. I mean, that's what you pay cash for; to see the band. Birmingham Academy is a club & not really designed for such events. Especially when Captain Smoke Master gets his clammy hands on the dry ice machine. No wonder Trent cancelled the following night, probably got smoke damaged lungs.

That's twice I've seen Nails at this venue, never again. It breaks my heart to struggle to see such a hero of mine in that crap hole. Should've waited for the Civic tickets on Monday. That's a far better venue with good sound & view & the beer doesn't taste like the bloke who slipped in the bogs rung out his pants in it.
Skint now though so I'm bolloxed.

The lead singer of Ladytron:
Would ya?
I totally disagree!! The joy of seeing a sell out show at Birmingham is that the atmosphere rocks and you can get so fucking close to the band. I was front centre balcony and it still felt very fucking close and I had a wicked clear view of the band. The sound in there is great and its in a very central location. The NEC would suck as a venue to see NIN- and whats with the 'no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage'- yeah you can see the stage at the NEC, and the tiny fucking figures wandering around on it!!
I would rather pay to see NIN at a club gig any day of the week and the view inside the academy is way better than Wolves too (although thats not stopping me from going!)
Maybe if you wanted a great spot you could have got to the venue a little earlier? Or even joined the spiral and go in first to bag your spot?

I do agree that the smoke was OTT but it has been for the whole tour. I think its got something to do with the general ambience the band are trying to get across but I hope they adjust it soon as we cant actually see them!

I had a wicked time at the academy and I cant wait to see the re-scheduled show in August.
Bricklayer
neon wrote: yeah you can see the stage at the NEC, and the tiny fucking figures wandering around on it!!
Maybe if you wanted a great spot you could have got to the venue a little earlier? Or even joined the spiral and go in first to bag your spot?
Fair Comment.
neon wrote:
Tone wrote:The Birmingham Academy is a shithole. Even Brixton Academy is far better than brum & that's falling down. The thing with Brixton, like the NEC, is no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage. I mean, that's what you pay cash for; to see the band. Birmingham Academy is a club & not really designed for such events. Especially when Captain Smoke Master gets his clammy hands on the dry ice machine. No wonder Trent cancelled the following night, probably got smoke damaged lungs.

That's twice I've seen Nails at this venue, never again. It breaks my heart to struggle to see such a hero of mine in that crap hole. Should've waited for the Civic tickets on Monday. That's a far better venue with good sound & view & the beer doesn't taste like the bloke who slipped in the bogs rung out his pants in it.
Skint now though so I'm bolloxed.

The lead singer of Ladytron:
Would ya?
I totally disagree!! The joy of seeing a sell out show at Birmingham is that the atmosphere rocks and you can get so fucking close to the band. I was front centre balcony and it still felt very fucking close and I had a wicked clear view of the band. The sound in there is great and its in a very central location. The NEC would suck as a venue to see NIN- and whats with the 'no matter where you stand you've still got a good chance of seeing the stage'- yeah you can see the stage at the NEC, and the tiny fucking figures wandering around on it!!
I would rather pay to see NIN at a club gig any day of the week and the view inside the academy is way better than Wolves too (although thats not stopping me from going!)
Maybe if you wanted a great spot you could have got to the venue a little earlier? Or even joined the spiral and go in first to bag your spot?

I do agree that the smoke was OTT but it has been for the whole tour. I think its got something to do with the general ambience the band are trying to get across but I hope they adjust it soon as we cant actually see them!

I had a wicked time at the academy and I cant wait to see the re-scheduled show in August.
Agree with you 100% neon, in terms of performance, this was his best show all tour
Bricklayer
Wrongfinger wrote:Agree with you 100% neon, in terms of performance, this was his best show all tour
I didn't/wasn't knockin' his performance. Nails sounded & looked great & the play list was fantastic.
Master of the Ninth Arch
NinNonce wrote:The T-shirt prices were expensive (okay, they were fucking absurd) but I have actually seen higher prices than £18. It could have been worse! And at least with NIN, you know you're getting good quality merchandise (not some shitty DIY job with a NIN logo that looks like a crooked Russian postage stamp!)
This is true. You get all the clowns outside trying to sell you fake t-shirts and a canvas print of a photo taken at a Manchester gig on a camera phone.
Starfucker wrote:
NinNonce wrote:The T-shirt prices were expensive (okay, they were fucking absurd) but I have actually seen higher prices than £18. It could have been worse! And at least with NIN, you know you're getting good quality merchandise (not some shitty DIY job with a NIN logo that looks like a crooked Russian postage stamp!)
This is true. You get all the clowns outside trying to sell you fake t-shirts and a canvas print of a photo taken at a Manchester gig on a camera phone.
Totally agree, I have seen tshirts priced way higher than £18, but at least you know that you are getting the real deal
Master of the Ninth Arch
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
Master of the Ninth Arch
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
The Spiral rep you are referring to as a "dirty slut" is one of the sweetest, nicest people you could ever hope to meet...you're an ignorant .............., ............, ............!
Bricklayer
janihenn wrote:
i was there wrote:the problem was retard smokers, not the dry ice. The set list was amazing and Trent was great, but jeordie and Alessandro put little to no
effort into last night. Jeordie was actually really rude to fans tht were cheering him. Oh well its not them we went to see. The spiral was shit coz u had to be there at a certain time to get in to hear the new album, and that dirty slut in charge of the spiral moved all the ppl who had got in to the pizza listening session, in front of the que again. Like they hadnt had enough already.
Nin are abusing their fan base, charging £18 for a tshirt, normal bands charge a tenner, nin sell more so can afford to charge less. they just know fans will pay it so they squeeze all the money out of us they can. So yea for the price of the spiral I got to que up in a different que, coz both spiralers and the public were let in at 7.
Despite all the shit it was great because the songs were amazing.
The Spiral rep you are referring to as a "dirty slut" is one of the sweetest, nicest people you could ever hope to meet...you're an ignorant .............., ............, ............!
Well said, I wasn't a spiral member then but even so, NIN were hardly abusing their fan base, just making sure they were looking after the people who were most faithful to them!
Master Traveler
Tone wrote:Who was the guy standing next to me stinkin' of piss?
i smelt him too, dirty twat. eurgh i was almost sick, he kept trying to get past me and i was like "stop touching me, you smelly cunt!"

that gig was FUCKING awesome.
Master Traveler
d-signet wrote:
archives of pain wrote:http://www.flickr.com/gp/60561516@N00/bnm9Ga is the link for the full set - there's 73 in it. I took more but some where rather dodgy!
thanks for that...i found me!

on the lower far left, looking away from the camera with someone's hand obscuring most of my face..but hey, fame is fame right :o)

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id ... 096&size=o


awesome, awesome gig
Haha That's spooky!
Bricklayer
archives of pain wrote:
d-signet wrote:
archives of pain wrote:http://www.flickr.com/gp/60561516@N00/bnm9Ga is the link for the full set - there's 73 in it. I took more but some where rather dodgy!
thanks for that...i found me!

on the lower far left, looking away from the camera with someone's hand obscuring most of my face..but hey, fame is fame right :o)

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id ... 096&size=o


awesome, awesome gig
Haha That's spooky!
Oooo I can see myself as well.
Thanks for this.
Was an amazing show!
Can't wait till I go again in August.
Hey, i was there, my first ever gig, was amazing, loved the smallness of the venue, only downside was some twat behind me kept trying to kick and punch his way through. Never succeeded ;)

I was a guy with dreadlocks btw, about 4th row in, central
Bricklayer
I think I saw you!
I was between the center and the left if that make sense.
And kinda got dragged into the middle and a bit further back in the end.
haha i was facing the wall by the end! I cant remember what song they'd been playing but there'd been lots of smoke and then it started to clear and the next song began and i was like "where's the band gone?!" then realised i was looking at the bloak room LMAO.

I was with my mate who had his hair tied back and was pretty tall, ended up stuck behind him and kept getting his ponytail in my face lmao. He was well chuffed though cos at one point Trent chucked a cup of water RIGHT in his face!
looking at the cloak room, even!
Bricklayer
LMAO!
I was with my mate as well.
I was stood behinde this guy at one point who was like twice my height then he let me infront of him =)
Im going in August to the Civic as well =D
yeah i had tickets to both the cancelled shows which was a real bummer, but on the plus side we met two americans in Scruffy's on the monday who were nice and will probably be friends with for a long time.

We're gonna make both of the rescheduled dates, hopefully, and maybe see what they're doing the rest of the week ;)

Do you remember the guy who kept shouting stuff like "YEAH FUCKING MEGABAND!" during ladytron? Well he was the one that kept trying to kick and punch his way through, i felt like smacking him.

unfortunately i missed the last few songs, my two mates (who are moshpit veterans) decided to bail out around 4-5 songs from the end and dragged me with them, and suddenly the exhaustion and dehydration caught up with me and i had to bail to the toilets to throw up lmao.

aaaw man, i need a NIN gig now.
Bricklayer
Naw, I dont remember him.
I do remember a group of guys in there late teens shouting some random stuff when Ladytron were on.

I stayed in the pit for the whole of the time =D
I was well proud with myself.
Could have passed out from the heat but it was all good especially with the water being thrown everywhere =D
Haha I wanna go to one now as well.
The Civic should be good.
I was going on the 5th but sold the ticket to my cousin, then it got cancelled and I was like =O
So when I found out the Civic was cancelled as well I was like HAVE TO GET TICKETS!

At first I didnt even know the band had come on stage, then I was like just like wowwwww!!
I know, that was such an amazing start, i'll never forget it for the rest of my life. I'd been following the setlists so i was expecting The New Flesh > Pinion or just Pinion, and then suddenly he just appeared! It was pretty unique watching it because we were still stood around talking so still had quite a lot of room.

"So impressed with all you do, tried so hard to be like you, flew too high and burnt the wing, lost my faith in everything.."

Then all of the sudden the guitars and drums kicked in and this wave of people hit us like a tidal wave, it was great :D

I wanted to stay in the pit to be honest but i was so exhausted, i spent atleast 50 percent of the time watching out for some smallish girls that were around me and helping them out when they got in trouble, but when my friends bailed i thought i'd best take the opportunity to cut through cos i wasnt gonna get out any other time lmao.
haha man i just remembered, Gave Up. The crowd was MENTAL during that song, i was just waiting for us all to fall over cos it was going left to right alot which is difficult to keep your balance with!
Bricklayer
I was pretty suprised I didnt fall a few times!
Yeah It was hard keeping balance.
Quite a lot of brusies but less than what I was expecting =D
Who removed my post regarding the dipwad calling Brandie from the Spiral nasty names? I posted here because I was at this show.
Bricklayer
MacabreMag wrote:I know, that was such an amazing start, i'll never forget it for the rest of my life. I'd been following the setlists so i was expecting The New Flesh > Pinion or just Pinion, and then suddenly he just appeared! It was pretty unique watching it because we were still stood around talking so still had quite a lot of room.

"So impressed with all you do, tried so hard to be like you, flew too high and burnt the wing, lost my faith in everything.."

Then all of the sudden the guitars and drums kicked in and this wave of people hit us like a tidal wave, it was great :D

I wanted to stay in the pit to be honest but i was so exhausted, i spent atleast 50 percent of the time watching out for some smallish girls that were around me and helping them out when they got in trouble, but when my friends bailed i thought i'd best take the opportunity to cut through cos i wasnt gonna get out any other time lmao.


Brilliant start. I was about to head for the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE2LM1zvhXQ