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ETS Tour Journal

2008/07/26 - Seattle, WA [Key Arena]

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2008-07-26 Show date
Key Arena Venue
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2008/07/26 - Seattle, WA [Key Arena]
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You know the drill - ONLY POST IF YOU WERE THERE. Please :)
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ETS is giving me fits, but here's the set list so far tonight (thanks to Kim for the play-by-play!)

1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March Of The Pigs
Head Down
Closer
Gave Up
The Warning
The Great Destroyer
Ghosts?
Piggy
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Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
Ghosts?
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole
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and Echoplex...
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The Beginning Of The End...
...The Good Soldier...
Hurt...
.. In This Twilight...

(OMFG!!!!)
In this Twighlight was amazing and the light show is out of this world. No God Given though :(
Master Traveler
Was there, shot video... IN HIGH-DEF ULTRA-REALISM! (Not kidding!)

Will definitely have some YouTubes up soonish. Might make a HD torrent if the quality is actually good enough.

It was my first NIN show, totally awesome! A few people were screaming during the quiet bits of Hurt (TR shot a pissed off glance in their direction once, but no show-stopping.)

Look for the video soon, I'll post again when some gets up.
Bricklayer
the frail was used as an intro into closer... weird I know and the whole show is amazing and the band is amazing as well, the encore was fucking long
Grand Pontiff
Partially corrected setlist; I think that Ghosts 19 and 25 were the other two in the 3 song ghosts section, but I'm not sure. Edit: heresyreptile is right, the second track was Ghosts 6; TR was playing the xylophone on that one. The third one was probably 8. I still can't keep the tracks straight; I associate the pictures embedded in the files with the songs (or the unique instrument) and not the names. Edit again: Ok, I'll believe the setlist, but that was a heavily, heavily modified version of Ghosts 25. Only was also modified; I didn't recognize it at the beginning. Ew. The Frail->Closer was actually the way the setlist went and they didn't just cut The Wretched... that transition was really, really jarring.

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1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March Of The Pigs
Head Down
The Frail
Closer
Gave Up

The Warning
The Great Destroyer
Ghosts 1
Ghosts 25
Ghosts 19
Piggy
The Greater Good

Pinion
Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
Ghosts 31
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

Echoplex
The Beginning of the End
The Good Soldier
Hurt
In This Twilight

In This Twilight was amazing (even if someone forgot the words on the first chorus); I had really hoped to see this song live since it was my absolute favorite from Year Zero. The Greater Good was really neat.
I wasn't a big fan of The Frail directly into Closer; I had wanted to hear The Frail into The Wretched without a SWAT team stopping the performance. There were some light sticks suspended from the ceiling that came down in between the two large screens (TBCD, I think) that they were batting all around. I saw this show on the rail in front of JMJ; I'll be in the back by the soundboard for Inglewood so that I can see the full effect of the light show.

Crystal Castles weren't that great, but I'm not a fan of that genre of music.
Master of the Ninth Arch
show was awesome! did anyone else see the toilet cam in the bottom right during survivalism? haha! and to the huge-titted girl who sat in front of me - bless your heart.
Master ad Vitam
I have never been surround by so many completely drunk and obnoxious assholes and cunts. The show itself was great but I will never be wasting my time coming to Seattle for a show again.

Hopefully the fans at the California shows are people who actually want to be there to see and hear the show.
Master of the Ninth Arch
i am pretty sure that the 2nd two ghosts songs in the 3 ghosts block were 5, 6 or 8. a recording of pinion was played before wish
the lights on gave up were reaaaally bright
hurt sounded pretty much the same and it was a nice surprise that it wasnt the last song

got in when the doors open through the normal entrance because we had 3 tickets, the merch booth had a ton of people so we went to the 200 section and were the first ones at that booth, i got 2 shirts. most were $35, sweatshirt was $65 and there was one $45 shirt
i got a white shirt with some trees that says ghosts I-IV and has a small nin logo, the other one is black with red writing and says nine inch nails on the front along with the 3 "lights in the sky" and has all of the tour locations on the back


trent talked a bit about how someone wasnt doing their job pushing a button or something. light show was simply amazing, many different effects

edit http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/ej/ 2 ghosts were 25 and 19

also, piggy was played with a stand up base which was pretty awsome
Bricklayer
The cluster of three ghosts songs was

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25
19

Robin's guitar wasn't working right at the beginning of Head Down, he chucked it at the mic stand and left pissed for a few seconds then returned with a different one.

Josh's drum solo in Piggy was awesome. Must have a recording.

Pinion sounded like it was mixed with Corona Radiata.

The vid screens in Survivalism were awesome. There was one camera on Trent, one on the front row, 2 in the arena halls, and 2 in bathrooms. One screen showed a chick using the toilet but there's debate as to whether that was staged.

Robin had a unique guitar riff intro to Only, I seriously thought it was some brand new song before I realized the chords going on.

Before Echoplex, the LED screen lit up with some The Slip-like white boxes in rows and decorative red lines. Josh came up to the screen and touched the white boxes, making them red which was connected to his drum machine.

I was afraid of people yelling during Hurt and people generally did, but they played on. Finally, I was afraid it would end with Hurt, but...

This show was the first ever appearance of In This Twilight, and let me say, it is an awesome ending song. the back LED screen had a picture of a city/factories, extended ending with Trent piano and ooh-ooh-oohs.... "Thank you."

I'm going to drink 3 gallons of water and go to sleep.
Master ad Vitam
Did anybody else hear that dude yelling "MEATHEAD LIKES DUDES" during Hurt?

I mean, it's true, but honestly, during Hurt? Come on. Rude.
Master ad Vitam
HI HIPPYGEEK!

ohmygod this show was a killer. more tomorrow [including a fuck-ton of pix and maaaayyybe some video]

<3
Master of the Ninth Arch
yes.
Bricklayer
Wow, that setlist was really long. Some dickheads and assholes, but overall a pretty good crowd. Can't wait to see them finish up the tour back down in Los Angeles, on a side note, why are the stage crew cleaning up such dicks. The last tambourine that was used was just sitting on the stage, they wouldn't throw it out to us, despite Trent tossed two out during the show.
Knight of the Royal Axe
When did he say that? I heard someone yell "And I can smell it too!" after Trent sang "I wear this crown of shit". I was kinda hoping Trent would stop and yell at him for a minute but then decided enjoying Hurt would be better.

Anyway, here's what I have for the setlist:

999,999
1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March of the Pigs
Head Down
The Frail
Closer (I liked this transition. It took me by surprise and had me saying, "Whoa!" after it happened. I didn't find it "jarring" at all.)
Gave Up
Corona Radiata (Sample)
The Warning
The Great Destroyer
[Light Malfunction]

1 Ghosts I
25 Ghosts I
19 Ghosts III
Piggy
The Greater Good

Pinion/Corona Radiata Sample
Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
31 Ghosts IV
Only (With new intro guitar. Almost made me think they were going to go into a cover of Wicked Game [or something] or at least that is what the guitar reminded me of. I liked it better than the old one, though.)
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

Echoplex
The Beginning of the End
The Good Soldier
Hurt
In This Twilight (Piano outro that sounded like a bit like Another Version of the Truth at times and a bit of every other piano part he's written spliced into one. It sounded really soothing.)

I ended up leaving the pit during Closer because the pushing and shoving was just getting ridiculous and I didn't want to leave the show pissed off so I walked back to the sound board and watched from there. They were recording the show into Pro Tools so there's definitely a possibility of official recordings being released. Anyway, I'm going to hop in the shower and head to bed. Hope everyone else that was there had a good time. I sure did!
i sat outside telling jokes for free cigs, and then i rapped to these two girls, so i missed crystal castles, but my favorate part was probably, the huge tv static during a year zero song
Master of the Ninth Arch
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Bricklayer
Yet another show that makes other bands' seem like child's play. Thoughts:

Opening band was a step up from last time's Autolux. Crystal Castles wasn't super great but I've heard more annoying music than that standing in between us and Trent.

I'm glad they touched on all of the albums, I honestly didn't expect to hear any Ghosts tonight. And damn, when TR was playing the xylophone and tamborine at the same time, looks easy but doing different beats like that with each hand seems difficult in retrospect.

The screenwork was crazy. Fav was the distorted TR cam during The Warning.

There seemed to be even more psychotic/retarded people determined to crush as many people in the front row as possible. I particularly enjoyed the cacks that violently elbowed their way past the calmer section to get back somewhat near the front. Thanks a lot, tools.

Still 0/3 on Just Like You Imagined. Some day, some day...

Thanks for the ride home, Triggermine.
The last tambourine that was used was just sitting on the stage, they wouldn't throw it out to us, despite Trent tossed two out during the show.
First show I was at either Aaron North or Jeordie White handed their guitar to someone in the first row. Someone from the crew came like 5 minutes later and took it back. That would have been a hell of a souvenir but its their jobs I guess.
I'm going to drink 3 gallons of water and go to sleep.
I second this. Cheers.
Master ad Vitam
In This Twilight was probably the most compelling and awesome stages there. I also really liked the Ghosts 1 set too.
Bricklayer
In This Twilight

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edit: fixed. other photos here
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Master ad Vitam
we totally thought hurt was going to be the last track and took off halfway through it, we were just rounding the building when fricking in this twilight started up, oh well... sounds like there might be some video


highlight of the show for me was second half of great destroyer and ALL the video for the greater good.

that is all.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Amazing show. Two words: ROBIN FINK. He was born to be in this band. I'm ridiculously sore and tired so I'll keep this brief. Trent wore shiny shoes, had a wardrobe change, and also wore a V neck t-shirt at some point. The stage setup was totally worth whatever obscene amount of money was invested in it. Highlights included: The big comedown with swinging hanging lights, all the year zero songs, all the slip songs, crowd cam on survivalism, IN THIS TWILIGHT. Here are some huge pictures. I'll add some youtube videos and the rest of the pics later. Thanks for the stickers johnbron, you kick ass. Sorry you ended up having a crappy time. AWESOME SHOW.

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In This Twilight
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Robin and the crowd cam
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Trent and Robin
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Trent
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Sorry they're huge. They're not that great so don't fucking steal them. If you haven't already, go buy a ticket for this tour. Even a seat in the nosebleed section would kick ass with all the cool visuals and the sound and the setlist are nothing less than perfection. Kick ass show.
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Bricklayer
Everything about this show was obviously, amazing. I especially enjoyed the use of the Monome, the Buchla 200e, and Jazz Mutant Lemur during the performance. So fucking cool how it was midi routed with the light show during Echoplex. Thanks to all you rad fuckers before the show for holding the lines and for being so.. rad. We looked out for each other dudes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25178636@N ... 395913445/

http://vimeo.com/1415133
Master Traveler
johnbron wrote:I have never been surround by so many completely drunk and obnoxious assholes and cunts. The show itself was great but I will never be wasting my time coming to Seattle for a show again.

Hopefully the fans at the California shows are people who actually want to be there to see and hear the show.
@johnbron & the others who've echoed this:
I am so glad I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment. (p.s. thanks for the AIR sticker!)

In general:
The show was awesome- some of the lights & effects totally blew me away. Trent was amazing as always, I thought it was a very good setlist, and it's nice to have Robin back. Freese and JMJ round it out very nicely to make it a kick-ass live line-up. *Edit: forgot Cortini! For shame. They all rocked.

But- oh, the plethora of obnoxious cunts and frat choads! I can say I've honestly never witnessed the kind of abject assholery that was present on the floor tonight. Thanks, cunts- I will never get GA tickets again.

It's something that puzzles me: how NIN/TR has come to draw such assholes for fans given the nature of the music. (I'm not talking about the "obsessive" ones; that comes with the territory. There were a few precious histrionic ones acting as Line Nazis today- it's not nice to laugh at mentally disturbed individuals, but I'll admit a chuckle or three escaped me.)

To be fair, we did meet 3 very nice guys while in line, which was fortuitous since they made us stand around doing exactly nothing for over four god damned hours.

What the fuck is up with that? If that's our pre-sale "reward"- being stuck in a pen like fucking pigs (har), unable to leave to take a piss or get a drink- well, fuck that. Yeah- we were let into the building about 15 minutes before the general public after standing in line all that time, and those asshole fuckwads proceeded to push up against us so hard that I literally couldn't breathe.

Also: SHUT THE FUCK UP DURING HURT, YOU CRETINOUS FUCKS! What a bunch of fuckheads. (Yeah it's not the first time it's happened- shut up, it's my god damned rant.) I still tear-up every time I see it live (again, just shut right up) and it infuriates me to hear a bunch of stupid, moronic goons make noises while he's there ripping his fucking guts open.

You're not funny or cool- you are a bunch of disrespectful ignoramuses who deserve a swift kick to your thick heads.

Despite all that, it was a great performance. Thank you, Trent and co.!
MikeyLiz
Triggerm!ne wrote:I heard someone yell "And I can smell it too!" after Trent sang "I wear this crown of shit".
best. nin. heckle. ever...
Grand Pontiff
3:30 AM and I just got home. Random thoughts ('cause I'm tired):


- "In This Twilight." Holy fuck. 'Nuff said. I almost whipped it out right there.

- "Terrible Lie" is still the greatest NIN song ever performed live. There is no arguing this fact. It is so.

- "Letting You" didn't excite me as I thought it would. But Josh rules.

- the lights for "MOTP" were fucking great!

- Robin whacked the shit out of his mic stand during "Head Down." Sweet.

- Robin is awesome

- Trent had a nice mic-stand-toss backwards during something. (Maybe "MOTP?")

- "The Frail" with no "The Wretched?" Hmmmm.... not too sure. Oh wait, it's "Closer!" Boo.

- thought I was gonna have an epileptic seizure from the lights during "Gave Up"

- I've inhaled enough sweat/ass/pot smoke to make me sick

- Josh is my new hero

- Trent's not gonna be doing "Hurt" much this tour if people don't shut the fuck up. (But Josh's drums sounded awesome.)

- "TBOTE" sounded great. I love Josh Freese.

- great new intro to "Only." Didn't even recognize it.

- Cortini lovers may be sad, he spent a lot of time in the shadows.

- sorry boys and girls, "The Great Destroyer" is fucking BORING live (well at least the second half is.) I was withholding judgment since its debut because I couldn't experience the visuals first hand. Well now I have. Big deal. Boring.

- "The Warning" & "The Good Soldier" (& "Echoplex") were so great to hear, even if the energy wasn't high.

- those three songs (and the Ghosts tracks) provided a high level of musicianship to the show, as did "In This Twilight" with the piano outtro from Trent. Nice points to argue with people who think it's just loud shit.

- for a song I skip on album almost every time, "The Greater Good" was amazing and I have a new-found appreciation for it. That camera shit was crazy!!!

- we got to see a chick pee. Weird. ("Survivalism")

- Trent tried the falsetto in "In This Twilight" and failed, so he screamed it the rest of the time. This make me wonder if it'll last throughout the tour?

- THE GHOSTS TRACKS WERE AWESOME/BEAUTIFUL/AMAZING/ETC!!!

- Robin played a recorder. Never thought I'd see a recorder on stage at an NIN show. Robin played a recorder.

- Robin rocked my ass off on "Ghosts 31."

- Trent was almost chatty. Technical difficulties made him say fuck. Something about a guy pushing a button. (No, not a "Capital G" reference.)

- I've never heard the ending of "Wish" sound so good. (Josh's double bass drum.) I still love Josh Freese.

- Justin played great, sang well, and fit right in nicely. Yay for JMJ (even though I'm still a douche who likes Lohner.)

- the Ghosts-version of "Piggy" (on the set list as "Ghosts Piggy") is interesting, but still boring. (Aside from Josh of course.) I'm just not a fan of the song so my perspective may be off. If anyone's wondering, it's like a cross between regular "Piggy," the version he played w/ the string quartet at the Bridge School Benefit, and something you'd hear on Ghosts.

- 16 or 17 songs I've never heard live and one that's been 8 years. Can't fucking complain about what I didn't see and wanted to. More than I could have hoped for.

- and finally, the light display was so intricate and complex that I almost wonder if it's TOO much. So many combinations! The technical difficulties, the break before "The Warning," and the general flow seemed hindered by the complex screens and such. I'm not complaining by any means, mind you.
EDIT: you all must know I loved it. I just have a hard time getting my head around the stage design concept as a whole because there was so much to it. It seems disjointed in my head because of this. BUT, it was absolutely amazing to see and I'm astounded by the effort put forth.


ADDITIONAL NOTE: - Crystal Castles FUCKING SUCKED! SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HORRIBLE. (actually, the music was great, the two dudes sounded awesome, but that bitch with a mic needs to be fucking slapped.) I was actually getting uncomfortable and upset. I'm kinda pissed that we sort of paid to see them. Some of the worst shit I've ever heard live. No exaggeration.
EDIT: At some point I muttered "play an instrumental!" under my breath and it received a few chuckles from around me. It was so true. I enjoy A LOT of their studio tracks, but if someone cannot sing live then fuck them, it's not worth my time.



off to bed I think........
Master Traveler
butters wrote:- "In This Twilight." Holy fuck [...]
I must second this. Totally fucking amazing.

butters wrote:- sorry boys and girls, "The Great Destroyer" is fucking BORING live (well at least the second half is.) [...]
Disagree. Maybe it's just subjective (and bias- I love that song), but I cannot see how it was boring at all.

butters wrote:- "The Warning" & "The Good Soldier" (& "Echoplex") were so great to hear, even if the energy wasn't high.
How was the energy not 'high'? I thought they kicked ass mightily from start to finish.
butters wrote:- and finally, the light display was so intricate and complex that I almost wonder if it's TOO much. So many combinations! The technical difficulties, the break before "The Warning," and the general flow seemed hindered by the complex screens and such. I'm not complaining by any means, mind you.
No, no no. Not TOO much! The interactive stuff was fucking amazing. And as for any break in flow/minor technical crap- dude, it was the first real concert of the tour. I'm sure they'll work it out. And I don't think it detracted from the overall performance at all.

butters wrote:-ADDITIONAL NOTE: - Crystal Castles FUCKING SUCKED! SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HORRIBLE. (actually, the music was great, the two dudes sounded awesome, but that bitch with a mic needs to be fucking slapped.) I was actually getting upset and uncomfortable. I'm kinda pissed that we sort of paid to see them. Some of the worst shit I've ever heard live. No exaggeration.
Y'know, they weren't my favorite, but they played a short set and the beats were good. I respect that TR gives breaks to lesser-known bands even when I'm not crazy about some of them.


Fuck, I need sleep too.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Loved all the Ghosts stuff. In This Twilight gave me an erection. Good to see Finck. I thought Only was a new track at first. The Greater Good stole the show for me.

Disliked the stale B.O. odor (I have been been to a show with this bad of stentch) and the Crystal Castles.
Knight of the Royal Axe
People, PLEASE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD IF YOU WERE NOT THERE!!!
Bricklayer
Been going to NIN shows since '94 and Bringing Robin back in the band was the smartest thing Trent could have done. They sound so much better than the WT era lineup, which I was not really a big fan of.
Robins guitar playing was on fire last night and sounded soo huge. Awesome.
Anyone remember what song the break/bridge in the middle of Closer was? Something from Pretty Hate Machine, I think... but I've slept now and can't remember it.

I'm in the "jarring" crowd on The Frail->Closer. Should have had The Wretched in there as a buffer.
Bricklayer
vtbassmatt wrote:Anyone remember what song the break/bridge in the middle of Closer was? Something from Pretty Hate Machine, I think... but I've slept now and can't remember it.
Down in it.
Bricklayer
thought it was a great show! can't wait until there is a video (or even audio) bootleg of this one available. hopefully someone will come through with a good audio/video copy...

hopefully he is taping this tour too, would love to see an official hi-def video release, esp. with the amazing visuals he used last night. i noticed there were two people sitting up on the light-support rafters at the left and right edges of the stage - were these camera guys? or just light-guys?

i gotta agree - best song live has to be terrible lie, although his rendition of only was damn good too.. and that awesome camera super-impose effect he did on the screen with the blue background was super-trippy!

im so glad he's continuing to push the envelope. he really knows how to entertain a crowd. 2 hours never felt so short!
Master Traveler
rockinyourshit wrote:
vtbassmatt wrote:Anyone remember what song the break/bridge in the middle of Closer was? Something from Pretty Hate Machine, I think... but I've slept now and can't remember it.
Down in it.
Not sure how this always gets quoted wrong, but it's "The Only Time" that gets sampled/teased in Closer.
Thanks rockinyourshit! That was gonna bug me all day.
halo eighteen wrote:
rockinyourshit wrote:
vtbassmatt wrote:Anyone remember what song the break/bridge in the middle of Closer was? Something from Pretty Hate Machine, I think... but I've slept now and can't remember it.
Down in it.
Not sure how this always gets quoted wrong, but it's "The Only Time" that gets sampled/teased in Closer.
Halo Eighteen for the win -- I think it was in fact The Only Time. The samples/instruments may have sounded a bit like Down In It, though. Let's hope there's a DVD of this tour so we can compare :)
Bricklayer
Well I feel retarded now. How could I get those two mixed up? v:(v
Master of the Ninth Arch
All I have to say is that 'The Wretched' is my favorite live song and Trent is an asshole for making me think he was about to play it and then going into 'Closer.'

Fuck NIN. Boycotting them.

...


All right I'm over it, see you all in Oakland and L.A.
Sadly, some idiot got into a accident that caused me to be stuck in traffic for a hour+ and arrive during Wish, but past that, WOW.

Key Arena always pisses me off, they are so anal about the crowd that everyone was just standing there like drones for most of the show. They need to play White River.

Oh, does anyone else find it amusing that the bass player is the guy from Beck?
Bricklayer
As far as the everpresent FUCKTARDS who act like a pack of damn wild apes in the GA area......FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL! QUIT GOING TO THESE SHOWS! You're NOT WELCOME THERE. TRENT HATES YOU... WE HATE YOU. You're the reason we have to hear fucking CLOSER every goddamn show for almost 15 years. (you know it as the I wanna fuck you like an animal song) you tard sacks. We come to expierence the greatest live act ever. You come to get drunk, stir up shit, injure people misfortunate enough to be close to you, and ruin hurt. GOD I DESPISE YOUR EXISTANCE!...................
Ahem. Sorry, needed to vent a bit. Ghosts portion of the Seattle show, was the show to me. It felt like you were transported to some faraway location with NIN. I was/am in awe.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Zura wrote:Thanks for the ride home, Triggermine.
No problem! I was nice meeting you and I appreciate the Vitamin Water you bought me in return. The window rolled up as soon as I pulled out so if you were still worrying about that, don't. :-)
Bricklayer
Kyle2193 wrote:Sadly, some idiot got into a accident that caused me to be stuck in traffic for a hour+ and arrive during Wish, but past that, WOW.

Key Arena always pisses me off, they are so anal about the crowd that everyone was just standing there like drones for most of the show. They need to play White River.
I just moved up here a year ago, and security for concerts here is stupid as hell.
At End Fest last year, they had cops scowering the area looking like they were gonna fuck people up. Busting people for smoking weed and shit.

When I saw Rob Zombie/Ozzy, they were throwing people out for just moving around a little.
You would think in such a liberal city such as this security would be a little more relaxed and not so damn scared and paranoid.
Bricklayer
I have a few decent pics from this SO VERY AWESOME show! Thanks Trent & co. !!!

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*please don't steal these. i put them up simply to share. if you're interested in a large file, pm me. thanks!
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Bricklayer
nes2sin wrote:As far as the everpresent FUCKTARDS who act like a pack of damn wild apes in the GA area......FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL! QUIT GOING TO THESE SHOWS! You're NOT WELCOME THERE. TRENT HATES YOU... WE HATE YOU. You're the reason we have to hear fucking CLOSER every goddamn show for almost 15 years. (you know it as the I wanna fuck you like an animal song) you tard sacks. We come to expierence the greatest live act ever. You come to get drunk, stir up shit, injure people misfortunate enough to be close to you, and ruin hurt. GOD I DESPISE YOUR EXISTANCE!...................
Ahem. Sorry, needed to vent a bit. Ghosts portion of the Seattle show, was the show to me. It felt like you were transported to some faraway location with NIN. I was/am in awe.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the fire.
GA is GA and not seating for a reason.
You are the problem.

That being said, the guys that yelled during hurt were in the seating areas, not GA, and they were tool bags.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Yes, but GA is supposed to be fun. Not a suffocating shove fest. We're there to enjoy a show (which would include moshing [correctly, not that flying elbow bullshit] when given the opportunity and interacting with the band; be it clapping, singing/screaming along, etc.) not get pissed off because some assholes just want to plow through people for the fun of it. Fuck you (that's not directed at Kyle2193, but the aforementioned assholes)!
Master Traveler
Oh man oh man oh man oh my GOD. I can't even begin to describe the awesome. Got some pics on my crappy camera phone. I'll try to upload them asap.

I can't believe how well Ghosts all sound live. Jesus Christ this was phenomenal.
Bricklayer
Kyle2193 wrote:Key Arena always pisses me off, they are so anal about the crowd that everyone was just standing there like drones for most of the show.
Maybe they were so anal because there were so many assholes in the crowd. Just sayin'...
Not a fan of the drunk guy in the blue shirt who kept pushing to get up near the front; he said he was going for the rail and caused a lot of trouble (the security guys tried to yank him out), but it was physically impossible (I was in the 2nd row, I'd know) and I definitely did not see him in the presale line so screw him. Also near the end of the show was some couple swinging back and forth and pawing each other excessively. Why does this happen at every pit concert I go to? My last complaint goes to the short man of Central American ancestry whose mouth was right next to my ear, a bad thing in this case, because he yelled every single lyric completely off-key directly into my ear.

About "the button": I believe Trent said something like "So there are just a few production fuckups. We need to find the person responsible for pushing a button, and put his finger on that button." I was surprised when he thanked his band members individually. Another good line was something like "This was the first [normal?] show on a tour that's going to last.... the next 14 fucking years."
Bricklayer
GA was fun, it was very tame. Anyone who fell got picked up, if you wanted to move, we cleared a space, if you wanted out, we lifted you up.
If you are at the front, you are going to get squished, if you are a bit back from the front, you are going to be in the most pit. If you are a little further back, you will be fine.

This is how every hard rock concert with GA is going to go, some pits are going to be harder than others, but they will all be like this.

The band wants this, that is why they have GA and not floor seating, they feed off the energy.
Bricklayer
Yeah I wasn't there, but I can't not complain. No Starfuckers, No Every Day Exactly the Same, No Great Below, No Perfect Drug, You Kidding me.
Bricklayer
Kyle2193 wrote:
nes2sin wrote:As far as the everpresent FUCKTARDS who act like a pack of damn wild apes in the GA area......FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL! QUIT GOING TO THESE SHOWS! You're NOT WELCOME THERE. TRENT HATES YOU... WE HATE YOU. You're the reason we have to hear fucking CLOSER every goddamn show for almost 15 years. (you know it as the I wanna fuck you like an animal song) you tard sacks. We come to expierence the greatest live act ever. You come to get drunk, stir up shit, injure people misfortunate enough to be close to you, and ruin hurt. GOD I DESPISE YOUR EXISTANCE!...................
Ahem. Sorry, needed to vent a bit. Ghosts portion of the Seattle show, was the show to me. It felt like you were transported to some faraway location with NIN. I was/am in awe.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the fire.
GA is GA and not seating for a reason.
You are the problem.

That being said, the guys that yelled during hurt were in the seating areas, not GA, and they were tool bags.
Bricklayer
I don't think they've ever played The Perfect Drug.
Grand Pontiff
bazz wrote:Yeah I wasn't there, but I can't not complain. No Starfuckers, No Every Day Exactly the Same, No Great Below, No Perfect Drug, You Kidding me.
then read the rules and don't post in this thread.



@vtbassmatt - no need to compare, it was "The Only Time" (as halo eighteen said.) I guess people get confused since PHM uses the same synth sounds in multiple places, but is was and has been "The Only Time" for a few years now.


@misanthropia (on the last page) - I'm assume you know I wasn't bitching (aside from the Crystal Castles part,) I was beyond tired and couldn't sleep from the high caused by an amazing show! :)
Master Traveler
Outside of the fact that I wish I had been in GA (the section I was in was really low energy and lame) it was a fantastic show. This lineup is tight, I love the new arrangements of NIN classics, I really loved the new stage, and even the Ghosts stuff (which I wasn't really thinking would transfer to a live performance setting) had great energy.

Also, after nearly 9 years waiting to hear The Big Comedown live since the Fragility tour, they finally played it at a show that I was actually at. Thank you guys!

All in all great show; worth the trip to Seattle for sure.
Bricklayer
I don't know where in the setlist it needs to go but Corona Radiata was played as background during the show when they were transitioning. It wasn't the full song though.

I can't believe how long the set was, FUCKING INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!
Grand Pontiff
KDeering wrote:I don't know where in the setlist it needs to go but Corona Radiata was played as background during the show when they were transitioning. It wasn't the full song though.
I don't think we know if that's true yet. (I saw someone else mention this from another show.)

Also, someone on another page said "Ghosts 2" which I think is incorrect. My thought at the time was that is was an extended drone from "Me, I'm Not" without the drums or distortion (listen to the youtube vid from nin.com to hear what I mean) but I'm thinking I was incorrect as well.

I don't think we can say for sure if it was a "Corona Radiata" clip yet. (I'd try to argue that it couldn't be since it wasn't on the printed setlist, but neither was "Pinion.") Time/more shows/bootlegs will tell.

EDIT: It was before "The Warning" btw.
Master Traveler
I was completely overjoyed by the show, it was incredible. I thought the Ghosts-style Piggy was a huge highlight, really fucking interesting and different. Throwing weird instrument arrangements into familiar songs is a great idea. And I'm not even that big a fan of Piggy live!

I know there are still people out there who say, "oh, TR was so much better as a performer pre-sobriety, blah blah blah," but they're full of crazy. He was engaged and powerful the whole time, even when it seemed that the crowd wasn't so much into it, and technically/performance-wise very high-quality. He told us we were "polite" before MOTP, I think, which is code-word for "get off your asses and move!" I dearly hope someone got video of the little micstand-pole-dancing routine he did during MOTP, that was hilarious. And the comment on how he'd be touring for another 13 years made me happy...

This may be wishful thinking, but I'm 7/8ths sure that Justin Crazyhair (although Robin is sure giving him a run for his money on that nickname) saw me and shot me an approving terrorist fist pump during Survivalism. I was at his 1 o'clock at eye-level, on the aisle closest to the stage, so it could happen, right? ;) He did great, there's no reason for anyone to doubt that he fits in. Josh Freese is still the most talented drummer on the planet. He really shined during Hurt somehow - where'd that come from? Alessandro was kinda hiding in the dark a lot of the time, he needs a spotlight! And I'm glad to see Robin back, not that I didn't like Aaron but I think esp. for the Ghosts stuff Trent needed someone with more varied music experience. I think Robin played a recorder in there somewhere.

I was proven completely wrong to doubt how Ghosts songs would come out live - they were fucking phenomenal. Trent exudes more badassedness on the fucking xylophone then most musicians ever manage on any more traditional rock instrument. They're better live than in studio, and I never thought I'd be saying that. Wow.

The light show is worth every penny that they're sinking into it. You can't even call it a light show, there was so much stuff in there. At several points a projected image got a dark hole 'burned' into it, so you could see through the projection to the musicians behind it, that was very cool. They didn't hide behind the screens, which I felt like they've done sometimes, but let you see what they were doing and enjoy the projections.

How many minutes was that show, it seemed like it went on forever! (like I am now, sorry, it was just so awesome!)
Bricklayer
Sadly, I think I was the only one who took my shirt off and twirled it above my head during Discipline. :(
Bricklayer
The NIN show last night (07/26) was awsome! A good friend of mine is a writer for the Queen Anne News and let me do his photography for a review of the show. I was AT the stage, 2 - 3 feet from Trent for the first 4 songs of the set. It was an incredible experiance and I think I got some good shots. Ill post them as soon as I get the final copy.

After the photo op I was into the pit and besides a few drunk, over-agressive & smelly assholes it was great. The visuals on this tour are insane and cutting edge with most of them to complex to even try to explain.

Unfortunatly, while in the pit some asswipe swiped the press pass off my shirt... I hope it cuts them and the glue gives them an infection that leads to perminant deafness.

And the opening band was Crystal Castles. They beyond sucked. If i could hose out my mind their music would follow the wash right behind the TG1C thing... it was that bad.
Bricklayer
SETLIST
The picture post of the 2 page setlist is THE setlist from the show... the let photographers get a peek and a pic before it started - so its dead on.

(not my pic but I have one to)
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Some aspects of the light show were overdone and cheesy. Josh pretending to touch the screen as if it was his drum machine was classic non-intentional comedy. The shit would light up before he got there and he'd try to speed up to make it look natural. The camera during the greater good was phenomenal though and the Ghosts songs were amazing.

The Big Comedown was cooler on the last tour (at least the DVD performance)

Also the break where they play warning and the great destroyer is kind of weird since it looks like trent and cortini are just standing there pretending to play keyboards and the ending of great destroyer needs to be fucking loud and absolutely chaotic to match the album and it just isn't.

I'm pretty sure the potty cam was staged as I don't believe a band could actually get away with that without having everybody sign a release agreeing that if they go to the bathroom they may be filmed, and given the state of women's bathrooms, I don't believe we'd only see one girl go in during the song.

I was sitting beneath the douchebags yelling during hurt, what can you do? They are everywhere, it doesn't matter what kind of show you go to. For a good retort and explanation listen to Patton Oswald's stand up album "werewolves and lollipops" track 18. I know it has nothing to do with Nails but it is the best rebuttal to an idiot yeller that Ive ever heard.

All in all for the first show on the tour I'd say it was fucking sweet. I like seeing band's when they start their tours cuz they seem human and a little more affable(sp?).
Also, how can you go into the pit and then complain about aggressive people? Its the pit, thats what its there for. Do what I did and get seats, my pit days are over and I enjoy shows so much more now that I don't have to watch for boots to my head or feel some dude's elbows pressed into my back constantly.
I don't have a whole lot new to add, and basically agree with everything that Butters said.

My personal highlights were:
* Gave Up: The red and blue lights were intense, and enveloped the pit as well as the stage. Awesome energy.

* Terrible Lie: Best performance of the night. Out of control. NIN live at its best. If you had to pick one song to show someone what a NIN show is about, this would be it.

* Josh Freese was worth the price of admission by himself, especially at the end of Piggy. I've never seen a better drum performance.

* Ghosts 31: I'm a bit biased since this is my favorite Ghosts track, but it was even better live. Robin WENT OFF!

* The stage setup and video during the Ghosts performances was very cool, utilizing the photography from the Ghosts book.

* Another lighting/video effect I liked was how Trent broke through the static during Only. Like other people have said, the guitar intro was new, and it took me a minute to figure out what song it was.

* Justin did an admirable job, and fit right in with the band. I actually watched him quite a bit, and he rocked it. The Hand That Feeds seemed a bit more bass heavy than usual, and kind of highlighted his performance.

There are a couple of things that I could complain about it, but most of it has been said already. Overall, Trent seemed to give it his all, we got to hear a bunch of new stuff, and it was great to see the continuing evolution of the band.
Bricklayer
Bravo, thank you, namaste, blessings ... this concert was the most amazing, awe-striking and beautiful experience. There is the long anticipation, then the day of the event, then the event that begins when you felt that you couldn’t wait another moment, then trying to remember within those moments of music and craziness and awe to actually be in that moment, then the moment when you know it's over, and the houselights come on and you recognize where you really are.

That was my experience of the July 26 performance of Nine Inch Nails in Seattle. NIN completely transformed an ugly, cavernous sports arena into a space where music and image were all that mattered. In response to the comment that there was 'too much,' no, the transitions are perfect in how they both juxtapose and integrate song to song, image to image, and song and image. One could preview for a month, and still have 'technical difficulties.' It worked beautifully and for the most part looked effortless. I suppose I'm more forgiving than others when it comes to these 'stage issues.' I was far enough away (Sec 110) that I didn't see all the frustration (Robin's guitar not working, for instance, and I'm sorry for that - edit: I mean, I'm sorry for Robin, though I'm sure he's recovered by now) so for me the show was quite honestly magical and transportive. I danced insanely within my little seat space (and yes, I stood up while most people remained sitting. For fuck's sake. Please). I loved the Ghosts pieces, to experience these live was stunning (and whoever said how these showcased the depth of musicianship and talent onstage, YES!); I loved Piggy (which I love live anyway, and the inclusion of what feels for me is the true instrumentation for the song just made it perfect) and The Greater Good was really just brilliant.

Why people have to yell during Hurt always puzzles and saddens me. Trent showed amazing restraint and played I guess for himself and all of us who really are always moved by this song. Why people have to yell at all during the quiet sections just puzzles me, anyway, they are clearly not there to listen. I guess maybe I'm just too fuddy-duddy, but I would wish for some true respect for the music: craziness when it's called for, intensity in the silences. But whatever, idiocracy rules.

I guess I do have to add my voice that the transition from The Fragile to Closer (huh?) was jarring -- everyone around me sort of sighed in disappointment. I think Closer is a fun song, but the Wretched would have more fit the mood (and for goodness sake, you have Robin Finck!) ... Anyway ...

In any case, day after, I'm still very and intensely happy, hope to see a DVD come out some time, and wish safe travels to all for the next 14 years (and always!).

peace xx
Master Traveler
butters wrote:@misanthropia (on the last page) - I'm assume you know I wasn't bitching (aside from the Crystal Castles part,) I was beyond tired and couldn't sleep from the high caused by an amazing show! :)
Understood. My intention was not to be confrontational; I was just interested in our different perceptions. But I was beyond tired myself (and ranty!) so I may not have expressed myself as well as I should have.

I wonder if I saw or talked to you while in line! We really need little ETS stickers or something for the next show. (yeah, I'm a dork.)
Master of the Ninth Arch
Ugh, I'm still too sore to type.

NIN never disappoints but this was just a whole 'nother level of amazing.

Highlight of the show: Ending it with In This Twilight, with a taste of the final moments of Zero-Sum.

Wanted but least expected award of the night: The Greater Good

Hyperbole free statement:
Best fucking show ever
Bricklayer
This show totally blew my mind. SO amazing. So much more than I could have hoped for.

If anyone has a good quality bootleg, I’d be stoked to trade an awesome Tool 2001 bootleg!
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Master Traveler
I disagree with those of you saying that we should expect that kind of violent stupidity on the floor. Not all of the GA area is supposed to be like that, and it has not always been that way at past shows (both NIN and others.) I further disagree that the usual "pit etiquette" was practiced last night. I have been to straight-up punk shows where people were more considerate.

I have no problem with a pit. I sometimes get in the pit myself! But the entire GA area is not "the pit." Sure, there is always some movement on the floor and you might get tossed around a bit if you're on the perimeter of the pit. But these people were violently elbowing, pushing, shoving and crushing those of us at the front. It was like a wall of stink and suck!

We get GA tickets not only to be close to the stage, but also to be able to dance and enjoy the energy. We could not even move (literally), much less dance.

The taller guys at the rail let myself and a few other short girls stand in front (as seems to be customary at every show I've ever been to), but within just a few songs we were jostled away by assholes who were either drunk/high (and evidently proud of it, as they loudly kept announcing "Dude, I am so fucked-up right now!"), stirring up shit, or elbowing us in the head to get their damned cameras over us.

Totally unacceptable behavior.
Bricklayer
What can i say, it was amazing. Best show i have ever been too. Truly an amazing production. Excellent song choice with mesmerizing graphics and lights. Thank you Mr. Reznor and company...
Bricklayer
show was sooooo great. i was also worried about how Ghosts would translate to a live performance, but they were definitely a highlight. i was thrilled when the lights DIDNT come on after HLAH...and security said there were 5 more. 5? wow. In this Twilight to close was PERFECT. unbelievable.

I was in on the rail in front of Justin, and the people around me were so great. Thank you so much to the guy to my right (with the pre-show contact lense issue). I hope to be near you up front again in Oakland or Inglewood. People behind me kept making sure I was okay, when they were the ones taking most of the push.

My only complaint (also posted by most people) was the Frail into Closer transition. definitely an unnecessary tease...The Wretched is one of my favorite songs !!!!

The "light show" (more like an Art Installation) cannot be described, or even grasped with video or pictures....on by experiencing it first hand.
Bricklayer
misanthropia wrote:I disagree with those of you saying that we should expect that kind of violent stupidity on the floor. Not all of the GA area is supposed to be like that, and it has not always been that way at past shows (both NIN and others.) I further disagree that the usual "pit etiquette" was practiced last night. I have been to straight-up punk shows where people were more considerate.

I have no problem with a pit. I sometimes get in the pit myself! But the entire GA area is not "the pit." Sure, there is always some movement on the floor and you might get tossed around a bit if you're on the perimeter of the pit. But these people were violently elbowing, pushing, shoving and crushing those of us at the front. It was like a wall of stink and suck!

We get GA tickets not only to be close to the stage, but also to be able to dance and enjoy the energy. We could not even move (literally), much less dance.

The taller guys at the rail let myself and a few other short girls stand in front (as seems to be customary at every show I've ever been to), but within just a few songs we were jostled away by assholes who were either drunk/high (and evidently proud of it, as they loudly kept announcing "Dude, I am so fucked-up right now!"), stirring up shit, or elbowing us in the head to get their damned cameras over us.

Totally unacceptable behavior.
That was the tamest NIN pit I've ever been too. I've seen them in twice before on the With Teeth tour and 3 times during the Fragile tour.
Trent even called the crowd out on it.

Getting squished and unintentional elbows are just a fact of the pit. If they wanted plenty of spacing and room between people, they'd have seats on the floor.

Personally, I hate have always having to look out for the people that shouldn't be in that part of the floor.
Master of the Ninth Arch
jpmreprise wrote:Everything about this show was obviously, amazing. I especially enjoyed the use of the Monome, the Buchla 200e, and Jazz Mutant Lemur during the performance. So fucking cool how it was midi routed with the light show during Echoplex. Thanks to all you rad fuckers before the show for holding the lines and for being so.. rad. We looked out for each other dudes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25178636@N ... 395913445/

http://vimeo.com/1415133
There was obviously no 200e on stage... (even TR rented his before cortini bought one... imagine a mic stand hitting one of those) It looked like he had a slightly mixed eurorack system with some of peter schreiber's ear modules and a frech connec though.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Does anyone have a transcription, or an approximation therof, of Trent's stage banter? Though I was frontish and centered throughout the show, thanks to people cheering during his speeches I was barely able to catch a word of it. He was more talkative than any NIN show I've been to before and I'd like to know what was said.
Master Traveler
Kyle2193 wrote:That was the tamest NIN pit I've ever been too. I've seen them in twice before on the With Teeth tour and 3 times during the Fragile tour.
Trent even called the crowd out on it.

Getting squished and unintentional elbows are just a fact of the pit. If they wanted plenty of spacing and room between people, they'd have seats on the floor.

Personally, I hate have always having to look out for the people that shouldn't be in that part of the floor.
You missed my point, or I didn't make it clearly enough. I didn't even see a pit last night. Not while I was down there, nor when I left to go find a seat because I could not breathe from all the shoving. That's my point. It was just a wall of shoving and violent pushing- not the usual stray elbow or someone knocking into you that one expects on the floor.

Did you miss where I said I sometimes venture into the pit myself? I go to punk shows for that very reason sometimes. I'm not a delicate flower, whining about getting my hair mussed. There was no pit last night. Just a bunch of pushing and shoving, more violent than I've seen at other shows (outside of an actual pit- where that is to be expected.)

I wasn't looking for 3 feet of space around me and for everyone to stand still! I enjoy the energy of the crowd on the floor, and can generally move with the flow when things get rocking a bit. Last night, I spent most of the time pinned between people, unable to see, move or breathe and quite often knocked off my feet (I'm 5'2, dude!)

I made sure to be right at the rail last night mostly so I could see the awesome visuals- which is why I was so pissed when I literally got yanked away and swallowed into a crowd of 6-ft-tall dudes. Rail does not equal pit.

And that's my last word on it. I would much rather talk about the amazing performance Trent & co. cranked out last night. I seriously hope there will be a DVD of this tour because the set was positively breathtaking.
Master of the Ninth Arch
tghdbdfbf wrote:i sat outside telling jokes for free cigs, and then i rapped to these two girls, so i missed crystal castles...
You didn't miss much. I dig their sound, but that act is really not suited for arenas and their set sounded more or less like one long song, in my opinion. Club music for sure. By the time NIN started I'd forgotten I'd even seen them.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Absolutely fantastic show. I drove up from Silverton, OR to see it with my girlfriend, and other than the infinite number of assholish 7-foot tall pricks who wanted to shove the crowd back and forth for two hours instead of enjoying the show.... it was great.

This was my 5th NIN show, I have been to many concerts in GA, experienced the pits and the shoving, etc... and people here are right: This was completely unacceptable.
What the pit-defenders here can't seem to grasp is that the ENTIRE FRONT OF THE FLOOR is NOT THE 'PIT'.
I had a protective elbow shield around my short girlfriend trying to protect her, and no matter where we moved, we were endlessly and unstoppably shoved hard, along with everyone around us, forward, backward, left and right. Elbows positively FLYING, I was sure some dick was going to break my fucking nose.

This is not what GA is "all about" that's not "the reason for GA", or any other bullshit explanations. You don't pay hundreds of dollars to drive hundreds of miles to wait in line for hours and hours and sit through the world's WORST opening band just to endure immature unevolved asshats vent their pent-up childhood angst by smashing into you repeatedly. FUCK THAT.

UGGGHHHHHHH!
Ok, I'm better now.
The show was so incredible, everyone else has already explained it. I didn't even notice that Piggy was different. It sounded like Piggy to me.
I love Head Down on the album, but it seemed lacking the emotion and feel of the chorus for some reason, the hardcore beat was pretty much all that seemed to be going on. Agree that the red/blue lights during Gave Up were the most insanely seizure-inducing thing a non-epileptic could ever experience.
I wasn't sure if Freese's hand-touching drum programming was really live or staged... it was cool though.
Also, they used the canister light-wall in the back for a lot of songs and on one of them (can't remember which), they had them suddenly start rotating in unison in a way that made the whole wall of lights look like it was liquid, or waving in the wind or something. I was like "what the fuck?!?!" Before I saw how they were doing it. Awesome.
The sound was good, the show was good, the people were cool other than the massive pool of neanderthal fuckbags on the floor, and I had an awesome time.

Thank you Trent for still bringing so much enthusiasm, energy, and excitement to your shows. It makes it all worth it after all these years!
Master ad Vitam
I finally joined flickr so now everyone can see the sweet-ass photos i took last night! okay, some weren't very good but i did my best ;)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28990545@N ... 403740168/

SHARE BUT DON'T SAY YOU TOOK THEM.

my personal favorites:
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Master of the Ninth Arch
I hate to say it, because I have felt your plight and usually err on the side of restraint at shows, but all of you complaining about the pushing/shoving/whatever at the front of a Nine Inch Nails concert really sound like babies. It comes with the territory and while it was pretty fucking hard to breathe at times, thats what happens...it's Nine Inch Nails! You should all count your lucky stars that it's not 1994 'cause you'd be dead.
Master Traveler
Well said, NinRadius. I don't know if you're the guy who told me to hang on to your arm while I was getting shoved around, even though you were trying to keep your girl safe- if you are, many thanks : )
Bricklayer
i had a seat as i dident want to be near the pit key is kinda small,well from what i saw from my seat there was no pit,just i can see everyone being squished i was so happy to be in my seat and well hehe jumping screaming and haveing a good ole time,hope i dident piss no one off in sectin 115 row 9 i was totaly into the show as it was most excellent.tho i was so ready for my fav song the wretched,i almost cried when it was closer :(otherwise i had a great time guys,sorry for the idiots on the floor,there were alot i saw them,just horrible.i went alone and met some great people,tho the presale line was bs i went thru 2 bottles of water and still had hour to go and i was really getting sleepy cause of the heat,and they took my damn flask from me haha its ok i dident need it.6$ for a damn beer,glad i only took 20$ with me.
Bricklayer
misanthropia wrote:
You missed my point, or I didn't make it clearly enough. I didn't even see a pit last night. Not while I was down there, nor when I left to go find a seat because I could not breathe from all the shoving. That's my point. It was just a wall of shoving and violent pushing- not the usual stray elbow or someone knocking into you that one expects on the floor.

There was a pit for most of the faster harder songs. Not during stuff like Ghosts. We were to Trent's right about 10 feet from the rail.
The pit causes much of the pushing forward, but that is also caused by people trying to get closer.

Every GA concert always has people who are too small to hold their own and have to get pulled out. This is just the nature of the beast, hell I got my head taken out by a crowd and lost my glasses under peoples feet.

Risks of the GA ticket, no point complaining about it. It will always be that way.
Master of the Ninth Arch
for all those out there who are as lazy as i was before this show:

Get there early to pick up your presale tix.

we wanted to miss Crystal Castles, so we arrived at 9:15. Will Call was closed, and the signs were confusing (3 of them said 'wait at this window' and 1 on the other end had an arrow and said 'pick up tickets at the door'). a group of us, some who had been caught in Seafair traffic, finally got to the appropriate door where some poor Key Arena employee was sorting through a box of will call tix.

turns out that box was full of unclaimed tix from other shows. a FAN came up and told the employee where to get the right box of tix. Then we finally got our tix and got in. band had already played 2 songs--it was a nightmare to be running to your seat while you can hear NIN playing in the arena.

the show seemed really different to me from earlier tours. more refined and choreographed and restrained. they pulled it off great except for the technical glitches that people have mentioned. i do miss the energy from TDS era, but bands grow up and change as part of the great natural process of life (as my friends kept telling me after the show)

i liked the projection screen but wanted less of it. i know it's cool for bands to play behind screens these days but if that's what i wanted, i'd go home and watch a concert film instead of showing up at the venue. when in meatspace, i want the full meal deal. when in cyberspace, fine, give me fancy projections

ya don't toss a kimono over a Greek statue--why would you want a screen between you and a live band for half the show? it's a beautiful set and great projections, but holy fuck, please don't cover up the band with it for more than 20 minutes out of a 2 hour show. it seemed like they were behind that thing for an hour.
Master Traveler
I gave up on pits a long time ago because I don't want to be on my feet getting squished and staring at some tall dude's head/hat/afro in front of me all night. I got lower bowl tix instead and had a great view and had plenty of room to dance around.
That was my experience of the July 26 performance of Nine Inch Nails in Seattle. NIN completely transformed an ugly, cavernous sports arena into a space where music and image were all that mattered. In response to the comment that there was 'too much,' no, the transitions are perfect in how they both juxtapose and integrate song to song, image to image, and song and image. One could preview for a month, and still have 'technical difficulties.' It worked beautifully and for the most part looked effortless.
Exactly. It was really a brilliant show with fantastic visuals. My favorites were the psychotic rolling blue and red lights at the end of Gave Up. I don't get motion sick or have epilepsy but the lights were so intense I thought I was going to pass out. That and the wipe in the middle of the whitescreen that exposed the band furiously playing in the middle before the rain came down. Wow.

Good energy from the band though though they were serious but I chalk it up to being early in the tour and having to concentrate more. The antics - including Alex hopping up on his gear (I hope) - will come later. From where I was in the 101 section the crowd was having fun. Being the first offical show of the tour there are going to be technical problems but that just comes with the territory, considering the level of difficulty with the timing and all the moving parts I think his staff/crew did a great job.

Then I heard that "pop" at the end of Great Destroyer and immediately thought "uh-oh, someone just lost their job."

"Somebody's supposed to push a button and the lights are supposed to come on. As soon as we find that guy and put his finger on the button we'll continue the show."

Trent must being getting mellow in his advanced age because he didn't threaten to fire/kill/dismember anyone.

I don't know what kind of bass Justin was playing at the beginning but it was a BEAST. I want one.

Discpline - replaces Only as the best hands-in-the-air gay rave-up of the concert.

MOTP - still the best banger. A guy who came in a couple songs later nearly cried when I told him he missed this one.

Loved The Frail leading into Closer. Everyone around me, myself included, were muttering "he's going to play The Wretched next...Wretched...Wretched..." and then he faked us out. Nice!

New "kiddie song" intro for Piggy was awesome, made it sound even more demented than usual.
* Another lighting/video effect I liked was how Trent broke through the static during Only.
Yeah, it was vaguely reminiscent of the video - TR trying to "break through." Nice callback while still doing something different.
Some aspects of the light show were overdone and cheesy. Josh pretending to touch the screen as if it was his drum machine was classic non-intentional comedy. The shit would light up before he got there and he'd try to speed up to make it look natural.
Josh's timing was off here and there but I thought it was cool. I liked how the control pad subtly moved from the front lightcage to the back during the course of the song, I hadn't noticed until the end when the pad was behind everyone. Clever.

I was surprised that he did an encore, I was expecting him to play straight through but it makes sense if he wants to end an anthem (HLAH) with the NIN logo and have ITT as the finalé.

When TR tossed one of the Klingon Battle Tambourines into the audience, the lights went out. I imagined some poor pit kid getting clonked in the head.
I was sitting beneath the douchebags yelling during hurt, what can you do?
That sucked. There were a bunch like that behind me and I wanted to turn around and kill them, especially the chick who was cell-certing for a friend and kept yelling into the phone, "CAN YOU HEAR IT? ARE YOU LISTENING?!" No, bitch, she can't hear if you WON'T SHUT UP.

In This Twilight - YES! My favorite song from YZ! I think that was the biggest treat of the night for me, I hadn't expected that one at all. The band faded out until it was just Trent left on the piano, it was lovely.
I know there are still people out there who say, "oh, TR was so much better as a performer pre-sobriety, blah blah blah," but they're full of crazy.
It really struck me how much energy Trent needs to get through a show, he's up there working just as hard as any athlete. With all the assholery of Amy Winehouse and strung-out problems of the Celebrity Rehab "celebrities," and other drinking/drug-related tabloid nonsense, I really appreciate TR looking so clean, fit, healthy and clear-minded. Sober!Trent is a gift, you guys.

Thank you everyone who took photos and videos.
Bricklayer
ninEater wrote:I finally joined flickr so now everyone can see the sweet-ass photos i took last night! okay, some weren't very good but i did my best ;)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28990545@N ... 403740168/

SHARE BUT DON'T SAY YOU TOOK THEM.

my personal favorites:
Hello, and thank you. I do love the one of Robin Finck and so it's going on my work laptop (as I see that more often, sadly, than my own). And I will not say I took it! No one would believe me, anyway ... ;)
Master Traveler
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LvqJOyoFnZc

My Survivalism video is up! Be sure to click the "watch in high quality" button below the video.
WOW! who the f*ck plays the xylophone and the tamborine at the same goddamn time!?! at a rock concert nontheless! AND make it work! forget about it. hands down, the greatest rock performance I'VE EVER SEEN. and i've seen a few in my day kids.
Bricklayer
this was the first nine inch nails show i've been too, and i have to say it was pretty fucking amazing. i started out about 4 rows back where i got a nice view of peoples' heads, then gradually made my way up to the rail...directly in front of robin (thank for letting me in, to the guy with the gauged ears and his mom). at one point i'm pretty sure as robin was swinging his dreads around, me and my boyfriend felt a bit of his sweat spray...sweet. the view was nice except for the beefy security guys occasionally blocking the view of trent.

my only complaint with the setlist is that the wretched wasn't played... and the 2nd half of the great destroyer failed to move me much. other than that the lights/music were awesome. i especially liked the parts with the swinging lights, and the screen with the "hole" burnt into it. robin is fantastic and i'm glad he's back, i was looking forward to watching him live and i got exactly that.

the Big Come Down and Terrible Lie were a couple favorites of the night.

crystal castles=not so great. the music was alright but the girl needs to not sing so much...or at all for that matter. sorry

key arena was filled with a bunch of assholes however, as many people have pointed out. it's ok to yell and sing sometimes, but people were talking and yelling during all the ghosts, and Hurt, and they need to shut the fuck up. unfortunately, NIN draws a lot of assholes who feel the need to be badass and act like complete shitheads. during hurt i would like to be able to hear trent singing, and not other people singing (loudly and offkey) all around me. i tried my best to tune people out and as a result i didn't really notice whoever yelled "i smell it too" that people have been mentioning. Trent was really personal in Hurt, touching his arms and face. i expected it to be the last song and it was a nice surprise when they started In this Twilight.

to the people complaining about the amount of pushing around in GA, i can't really agree. personally, i expected it to be intense and thats what you're there for. i did bruise/cut my lip a bit, and it was fucking hot/sweaty/stinky, and people elbow/shove/grab but you deal with it. you're not in the stands! i'm glad i ended up at the rail though so i could actually see (i'm 5'3'')


also, did anyone else notice the nutshells(?) that robin was rubbing around during one of the ghosts songs? he had a little bundle in his hand..kind of amusing.

some pics i took from my phone...not great but still something
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29012255@N ... 409704701/

@ninEater: your pictures are great...i'm almost embarassed.
Master Traveler
Awesome first NIN show! Me and my friend were really close to the stage at the beginning of the show. My friend had never been in a pit area or mosh pit before and thought she could handle herself. She fainted/passed out during MOTP and I had to grab her and get her out before she got trampled (I don't think anyone saw her fall down because no one seemed to be helping =/).

I took her out to the lobby and got some water and we came back during The Frail. I didn't want to ditch my friend, so I had to stay around with her in the back of the GA area where there was literally no movement or dancing at all, but whatever. I jumped and danced anyways looking like an idiot.

-The visuals were AMAZING. I was in awe the entire time. I thought I could have had a seizure during Gave Up. The screen thing during the ghosts songs were beautiful.

-IN THIS TWILIGHT!!!!!!! The best song of the whole set.

-The cams during Survivalism were awesome. It was really cool.

-The new intro to Only made me think they were playing a new song.

I don't think I could have asked for a better setlist. It was PERFECT.

BTW, did anyone else notice that Robins guitar stopped working during The Hand That Feeds? (or maybe it was on purpose?)
Bricklayer
amazing show!!! i have loved nin shows in the past, but i would have to say that this was my favorite by far due to the level of sophistication that is being attained at this point. it is becoming more and more like performance art while still keeping the feeling of a traditional rock show at the same time. i can really see how trent is developing as a soundscape designer and visual artist...everything is growing tighter and more precise in a way. i was kinda hoping he wouldn't play closer and hurt yet again, but i have to admit that as both the songs got well under way i found myself swaying away to them as usual! i dragged my sister and her husband somewhat reluctantly to the show (their first time seeing nin), and they loved it :) it is my mission in life to convert as many people as possible...going well so far.

loved it when the nin logo came up larger that life before the encore...felt like i died and went to nin heaven!

wish i could catch more shows on this tour, but feel so well rewarded by all i saw and heard last night...thanks trent for a bloody great show!!!!!!!
Master Traveler
All of the videos will eventually be on this playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 5ECFAAE689

As of this post, The Greater Good, Terrible Lie, and Survivalism are up. Currently uploading Only.
Master Traveler
KyleEasterly wrote:All of the videos will eventually be on this playlist
Does that mean all of the songs?!!
Master Traveler
A shorter list is what I didn't record:

Letting You was not recorded.
The Warning is partial.
The Great Destroyer is partial.
Ghosts 19 might be missing the beginning. I have 2:19 of it, until the end.
Ghosts 31 is partial, I have 1:15 of it, from the beginning.
The Beginning of the End is missing about 20 seconds at the beginning.

Everything else was recorded beginning to end. There were a handful of times when I had to duck the camera below head-level because of front security (they didn't get the memo that video was OK, I guess.)

It takes a while to get these on YouTube. About 45 minutes per song so far. Should be complete within the next 2 days or so.

I'm going to start uploading them in the order played, so 999,999 + 1,000,000 are going up as we speak, should be done within the hour.

Also, if you're watching these back-to-back, the audio volume might vary - I was playing with the volume setting on the camera to try to minimize crowd noise, but I was doing it wrong near the end. The beginning tracks should be great audio (but the video is going to be shaky, as they were taken front and center.) Gradually, I wound up more to the left, but was able to get some decent shots later on from that position, and wasn't getting knocked around as much.

Next NIN show I go to I'd like to coordinate with multiple people to get multiple angles. This is probably my only show besides Lollapalooza on this tour - and it's going to be very hard to get a video camera into Lollapalooza.
Master of the Ninth Arch
KyleEasterly wrote:All of the videos will eventually be on this playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 5ECFAAE689

As of this post, The Greater Good, Terrible Lie, and Survivalism are up. Currently uploading Only.
thank you SO much. I took some videos with my cell but they weren't that great.

by far the best show I've ever seen. The Greater Good, Only , Survivalism (the chick pissing was a total plant), 1 Ghosts I, March of the Pigs (I loved how he said that it was good that everything was alright in the middle haha.), Gave Up and Wish were the highlights.

sure there were a few glitches (Robin's guitar at the beginning of Head Down, the guy not turning on the lights before the ghosts segment, and Justin's bass during the first half of THTF) but it was still amazing.

My jaw was dropped the entire time.

I took some pictures of the merch (which was awesome, I bought the Head Down shirt) with my cell phone for you all who couldn't make it, but I can't find the software disc so i can transfer them to my computer so I'll get back to you on that.

I liked the music that Crystal Castles made, but the singer chick needs to go. it was the same "note/scream" the whole time. I was enjoying the rest of it though.

I was worried Trent was going to leave during the frail, ghosts, and Hurt but it all worked out.

Trent Quote: "I hope you're enjoying the technical difficulties we like to pepper our set with. It's just to make things more interesting."

I talked to Rob and he said they will eventually film a couple shows for release.

thanks for the ups everyone.
Bricklayer
ningamer wrote: I jumped and danced anyways looking like an idiot.
I was up front for while and decided to move around for a bit, as I am old, so you were not the only one looking like an idiot. :) I just can't stand still when I see them live. Of course I paid for it later...the leg cramps I got when I tried to fall a sleep. OUCH!

So for everyone commenting about the pushing up front, come join the people in the back next time. There is tons of room, you can see everything and we can all look like idiots together. :)
Master Traveler
I talked to Rob and he said they will eventually film a couple shows for release.
Excellent! I saw him down at the boards snapping pictures. I was tempted to talk to him after the show but had to leave right away - thanks for asking one of 'my' questions!
So for everyone commenting about the pushing up front, come join the people in the back next time. There is tons of room, you can see everything and we can all look like idiots together.
Done and done. :)
i have a question, which were the benefits of the pre-sale ticket?
Bricklayer
gabyreznor wrote:i have a question, which were the benefits of the pre-sale ticket?
presale ticket holders got in about 10 minutes before everyone else= better spot on the floor.

and the tickets look very cool. name printed on them and some of the lettering in red foil.
Master of the Ninth Arch
misanthropia wrote:Well said, NinRadius. I don't know if you're the guy who told me to hang on to your arm while I was getting shoved around, even though you were trying to keep your girl safe- if you are, many thanks : )
If you were short and had purple hair, that was me. I lost you after a couple minutes. Where'd you end up going?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Kylenn Black wrote:
I talked to Rob and he said they will eventually film a couple shows for release.
Excellent! I saw him down at the boards snapping pictures. I was tempted to talk to him after the show but had to leave right away - thanks for asking one of 'my' questions!
yeah, he was really nice, I told him how much i liked Headache and he had to go. It was cool talking to him, however brief it was. I'm an aspiring director and all of his work for NIN has been really inspiring.
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Bricklayer
I had pre sale tix. I got to the venue a few hours before doors opened and I just hung out w/ my friends and walked around. there really is no point in waiting in line unless you are the first 30 people in line to get the rail spot in the front.

opening act was good. they've got interesting sounds and the singer had good stage pressence. i honestly don't think anybody would agree with me though because nobody seemed to give a shit. half the venue was empty.

I was talking to rob durring their act. we were just hanging out in the middle of the floor for a lil bit. i remember him from the spiral lines a few years back and i mentioned that i really dig all his work he does for the band. anyways...........

..theeenn NIN played and its everything I expected. everything sounded good. great visuals..lots of energy.. variations etc. I was infront of Trent about 4 or 5 rows back and compared to all the other nin shows i've been to, this was a fairly calm crowd. I'm a thin male that is 6ft tall and i kept my ground all night. I like to move around but i never try to annoy or hurt anybody. ..theres always a bunch of sweaty dumbass guys tryin to knock me and everyone elese down the whole time but thats what happens in this area of a venue. everyone that is compaling about this needs to get realistic. if you want to get up front then spend 6 hours in line and get the rail spot. otherwise, stand back or to the side a little bit. sure, you're going to get shoved a bit but it wasn't that intense. there are always assholes that walk past you and shove you for no reason. it sucks but dont let it ruin your night. and for the people who dont want anybody singing.. all i have to say is... dont ever go to a concert again. you'll never get that to happen. i do agree that is it extreemly fucked up for people to say stupid shit durring hurt etc. this one guy kept saying stuff like "trent, you need to find your anger again". i dont understand why people like this even go to shows..but you're not going to stop this from happening.

im very glad robin is back. that side of the stage has always been good but he owns it! ....i've been a die hard nin fan ever since broken came out and i have watched hunders of video footage over the years. the new bass players stage pressence for NIN does not fit at all to me. his playing was great. i know it shouldnt matter but.. he just doesnt look like he should be in this band. bad move! anyways.. i need to get offline. show was very good! not the best by far..but if i had another chance to go then i'd be first in line to buy tix!

k
Bricklayer
birdchick wrote:I have a few decent pics from this SO VERY AWESOME show! Thanks Trent & co. !!!

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*please don't steal these. i put them up simply to share. if you're interested in a large file, pm me. thanks!
Unless you were there shooting as a pro and licensed by NIN or the venue you have no right to either sell or copyright those photos. If you are then cool but you might want to mention that in your post.
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Master Traveler
A torrent of this concert appeared on Dimeadozen... For those who are interested.
Grand Pontiff
Furie_Zacharias wrote:A torrent of this concert appeared on Dimeadozen... For those who are interested.
Its up on nintorrents.com

Seed yo
Master of the Ninth Arch
Here's a small clip compilation with craptastic audio!

tracklist of clips:

Terrible Lie
The Big Comedown
The Hand That Feeds
Hurt
In This Twilight

On a side note: I was probably the line nazi mentioned earlier. After waiting since 7:30 in the morning, I'll be damned if you'll stroll up at 2:00pm and just stand in front of me. And fuck you for talking shit when I (the fuhrer) told you to go to the back of the line. The irony: I was totally nice to you in the pit and told you you could hang on to my arm. Also jpmreprise was totally the coolest person in line!
Master Traveler
Something that just occurred to me:

At some point Trent said something about touring for the next 14 years.

2008 + 14 = 2022

2022 is Year Zero.
Bricklayer
Esoterrorist wrote:Here's a small clip compilation with craptastic audio!

tracklist of clips:

Terrible Lie
The Big Comedown
The Hand That Feeds
Hurt
In This Twilight

On a side note: I was probably the line nazi mentioned earlier. After waiting since 7:30 in the morning, I'll be damned if you'll stroll up at 2:00pm and just stand in front of me. And fuck you for talking shit when I (the fuhrer) told you to go to the back of the line. The irony: I was totally nice to you in the pit and told you you could hang on to my arm. Also jpmreprise was totally the coolest person in line!
likewise vice-versa, sir.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Kyle2193 wrote:Sadly, some idiot got into a accident that caused me to be stuck in traffic for a hour+ and arrive during Wish, but past that, WOW.

Key Arena always pisses me off, they are so anal about the crowd that everyone was just standing there like drones for most of the show. They need to play White River.

Oh, does anyone else find it amusing that the bass player is the guy from Beck?
Are you sure you didn't get held up in the traffic snarl because of the parade they were having downtown? (Along with the marching band contest... and whatever else fuck was happening in Seattle Center on Saturday night. That was insane!)
Bricklayer
KyleEasterly wrote:Something that just occurred to me:

At some point Trent said something about touring for the next 14 years.

2008 + 14 = 2022

2022 is Year Zero.
great...creep me out right before i go to sleep!!!
Master ad Vitam
Esoterrorist wrote:On a side note: I was probably the line nazi mentioned earlier. After waiting since 7:30 in the morning, I'll be damned if you'll stroll up at 2:00pm and just stand in front of me. And fuck you for talking shit when I (the fuhrer) told you to go to the back of the line. The irony: I was totally nice to you in the pit and told you you could hang on to my arm. Also jpmreprise was totally the coolest person in line!
Long live the line nazi! :) Really, you actually stood up to the morons who thought they'd be able to pull that shit off. I was happy to see that, for the most part, people got their GA position based off of who was there first. This was an exceptional show and I can't wait for more.

I am very happy with the way the Arena security and NIN security handled with the crowd. The fact that those of use who were there first got the rail first was very comforting and rewarding.

Believe me, I would have LOVED to have slept in and show up in the afternoon, like the majority of the people attempting to quietly work their way up the line. Would I have gotten a decent place toward the front? Yes. Just remember for future shows. If you want that position on the rail, earn it. It's actually a lot of fun talking to people and actually socializing with other fans.

Great show! Can't wait for more!!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
wseaninfan wrote:
gabyreznor wrote:i have a question, which were the benefits of the pre-sale ticket?
presale ticket holders got in about 10 minutes before everyone else= better spot on the floor.

and the tickets look very cool. name printed on them and some of the lettering in red foil.
I've had early admission for NIN shows on tours past, and this one was VERY delayed. They had to do a lot of last-minute tech stuff, and I think we were supposed to be let in at 5 or 6 for an 8pm show. We didn't get in until nearly 7, and then the main doors were opened only 15 minutes later.

The other times, the early doors open about 45 - 60 minutes early. You have lots of time to get your merch, some food, hit the toilet, and then find your place on the floor. This show, I barely had time to scope out where the floor access was and find a merch line, and BOOM! The other doors were open, and the crowd poured in.

I do not think other shows will be like this. You should get in plenty early.

And yes, the tickets are a great keepsake all on their own!
Grand Pontiff
nindustrial wrote:hopefully he is taping this tour too, would love to see an official hi-def video release, esp. with the amazing visuals he used last night. i noticed there were two people sitting up on the light-support rafters at the left and right edges of the stage - were these camera guys? or just light-guys?
They were light guys, though I never figured out where they were using the spotlights. Rob was taking pictures with a real camera in addition to an iphone, so decent pictures should show up at some point.

Edit: N/M
Master Traveler
Esoterrorist wrote:On a side note: I was probably the line nazi mentioned earlier. After waiting since 7:30 in the morning, I'll be damned if you'll stroll up at 2:00pm and just stand in front of me. And fuck you for talking shit when I (the fuhrer) told you to go to the back of the line. The irony: I was totally nice to you in the pit and told you you could hang on to my arm. Also jpmreprise was totally the coolest person in line!
Ah, I think you have the wrong person. I don't have purple hair, and unless you are female- I wasn't referring to you as one of the Precious Line Nazis ; )

*Edit: I snipped the rest of this and will put it in a PM. No one else really needs to read it!
Bricklayer
Anyone complaining about GA being too rough... come on, seriously.
I was about 30 feet back from the stage in the middle, and I got bumped into maybe 3 times total the whole show. It was one of the tamest GA sections I've ever been apart of.

On the downside, there was the tallest guy I have ever seen in my entire life standing about 10 feet in front of me in the middle, blotting out the whole show. I swear the guy was like 8 feet tall and cast a shadow that put half the floor in darkness. People that tall should have their shins surgically removed. (or stand further back. Its not like you'd have trouble seeing) I'm 6'1 and it seemed like 50% of the people in front of me were 6'3"+

You Americans and your beef steroids.

Gimmie this on blu-ray ASAP please, amazing light show. Reminded me kinda of the graphics demos that came with warez downloads in the early 90s. Showing off what is possible.

Edit: Also wanted to mention, anyone notice during the outro, the 'lights in the sky' above the YZ-esque cityscape, and then the huge flash of what looked like a massive explosion? The lights in the sky wiping out the city maybe?
Grand Pontiff
Thanks for all the vids KyleEasterly, gives me an almost identical representation of my view.. couldn't ask for anything more! I must've been pretty close to you - I was in green/white plaid. There was this dude beside me at one point taping. Stoked about the full audio popping up too.

Btw moshed people, I've got one word for you - Perimeter.

Nice to see all the reviews/pics to fill in any *burp* blanks there may have been.. heh, I remember it pretty well but interesting to hear everyone's perspective. I was totally afraid the show was wrapping up come Hurt, so I involuntarily blurted 'You're not done, yet'. Not rude, but encouraging I figured atleast. Some people around me were laughing. The hoooeeeeoooo part of Ghosts 1 I had goin pretty good as the part was a little, well a lot too quiet and I was near the stage in front of Justin.

Didn't make it to the front til Discipline's end, so glad to hear atleast 1 person got the shirt twirl in. The Meathead comment mentioned, I never heard but is hilarious. Much variety in the set, didn't take kindly to the even shortened? Frail into Closer, but it was the element of suprise & variety that built the show.. still, a dirty joke considering the painfully stunted repr. of the TF. Hope one day a trade-up between grandiosity & stapleage happens so I can follow consecutive dates. Until then, I will continue to compile footage heh

Immensely enjoyed the show, and after counting 29? songs still felt short! I can rest easy for awhile now though.
Master of the Ninth Arch
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Ha! I totally didn't realize it, but my girlfriend is in the picture. Redhead whose face you can't see with the tattoos to the immediate left (your left) of the security chick. I was front(ish) and center because I'm more awesome than her.

One more thing about the show I forgot to mention/ whine about. Ghosts 18 after The Warning would have made a 100% perfect night even more perfect. I realize that may seem mathematically impossible, but that would've been so awesome as to defy the laws of math.
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Master ad Vitam
thank you's go to whoever did that recording, it is just beautiful, listened to parts of it on the way to work this morning.
just perfect. thanks again.
Sooo no meet and greet???
Master Traveler
As far as the delay on the nin.com doors... I was towards the front of that line. As they got us into position, walking us down the stairs to the arena doors, it was obvious that Crystal Castles was still sounchecking at 6:45. The gossip amongst the security guards who were walking the rail is that the band (NIN presumably) left Canada at about 2pm underestimating the time they needed at the border.

I can't speak for the rest of the arena crew but the guards on the Robin side of the rail were pretty cool. The number of assholes was slightly above average, but certainly not the worst I've experienced.

It was a great fakeout that HLAH wasn't the end of the show.

Also, even though I'm not personally a fan of the curtains, screens a opera sheers that NIN has used; I thought they were quite effective this time as they covered the set change for the Ghosts songs.
Master ad Vitam
wendyology wrote: The gossip amongst the security guards who were walking the rail is that the band (NIN presumably) left Canada at about 2pm underestimating the time they needed at the border.
seems to match up, the pics they posted on the site saying "heading to seattle" that was posted at 1:06pm was taken just leaving vancouver, if i am right on the location, which would put them about 30 min from the border...
Knight of the Royal Axe
Fake out? You didn't actually think there would be more?
thesloth wrote:
birdchick wrote:I have a few decent pics from this SO VERY AWESOME show! Thanks Trent & co. !!!
***good pictures***

*please don't steal these. i put them up simply to share. if you're interested in a large file, pm me. thanks!
Unless you were there shooting as a pro and licensed by NIN or the venue you have no right to either sell or copyright those photos. If you are then cool but you might want to mention that in your post.
Actually, by taking the photographs, he is now the owner of those images, he is the author, and owns the copyright to any images he took. He shouldn't sell them because it's a dickmove, but to put a CR on them is absolutely fine and perfectly within his legal rights. Don't talk unless you know what you are saying.

Beyond that, this show was absolutely amazing, every song was perfect, I got some great video (posted later.) and cannot wait for them to come back.

highlight: the ghosts songs. mind blowing.
Master Traveler
Triggerm!ne wrote:Fake out? You didn't actually think there would be more?
HLAH has been the end of the show for 2-3 years and I don't recall a single encore in all of the shows that I saw in the WT/YZ era. I hate to admit I'm contitioned, but I just assumed the show was coming to an end.

I purposely avoided reading the Forum Private Show thread because I wanted to be surprised by the new show.
Master of the Ninth Arch
richter wrote:Anyone complaining about GA being too rough... come on, seriously.
I was about 30 feet back from the stage in the middle, and I got bumped into maybe 3 times total the whole show. It was one of the tamest GA sections I've ever been apart of.
I must have been right behind you. Did you start out a bit further back and find yourself slightly closer over time? I started the show at nearly exactly half-court and ended it at about the "top of the key". I think I saw your camera being held up in front of me about 15 feet or so. Nicely mellow floor, indeed!
wendyology wrote:HLAH has been the end of the show for 2-3 years and I don't recall a single encore in all of the shows that I saw in the WT/YZ era. I hate to admit I'm contitioned, but I just assumed the show was coming to an end.

I purposely avoided reading the Forum Private Show thread because I wanted to be surprised by the new show.
Wow, really? I think every one of the NIN shows I've seen has had an encore. You must draw the bad straw a lot, eh?

I didn't read the private show thread either. But now I feel free to read anything. I'm glad my ticket wasn't for late September... I'd have to go on an ETS fast!

EDIT: fixed redundant cut-n-paste
Master ad Vitam
hippybear wrote: I purposely avoided reading the Forum Private Show thread because I wanted to be surprised by the new show.
Wow, really? I think every one of the NIN shows I've seen has had an encore. You must draw the bad straw a lot, eh?

I didn't read the private show thread either. But now I feel free to read anything. I'm glad my ticket wasn't for late September... I'd have to go on an ETS fast![/quote]

you musn't have been on any of the past tour then, we went to 4 shows and none of them had an encore from what i remember.
Master Traveler
richter wrote:Edit: Also wanted to mention, anyone notice during the outro, the 'lights in the sky' above the YZ-esque cityscape, and then the huge flash of what looked like a massive explosion? The lights in the sky wiping out the city maybe?
Yeah- the very first thing that went through my mind (after "holy fucking shit!") was, "you will change your ways and you will make amends- or we will wipe this place clean." (Because I'm a dork.)
Master of the Ninth Arch
spookshow wrote:you musn't have been on any of the past tour then, we went to 4 shows and none of them had an encore from what i remember.
define: past tour

Both of the WT shows I saw had some form of "the band leaves stage, the crowd claps in darkness, the band comes back and everyone pretends like it wasn't planned"

Isn't that an "encore" as we know it in rock-n-roll?

Fragility 2.0 at The Gorge... well, I don't remember much about the end of that show. The colors all got really pretty...
Master ad Vitam
Wow, looks like I am a little late to review the show here. Oh well, I'm doing it anyway.


Few things: First, the mosh pits WERE NOT ROUGH AT ALL, so if anyone thinks that, try moshing somewhere real like in Vancouver BC or in Hawaii (Hawaii was the roughest NIN mosh pit I have ever experienced.)


Anyway, about the show: Greatest I have seen. This show beat the With Teeth Key Arena Performance, Gorge performance, WT portland, and the YZ Hawaii performance. It was that good.


The irony is that every NIN show ALREADY pretty much is the best possible show you can see. The irony being that this performance was 5 times as good as any previous NIN show I had previously seen, which was ALREADY way better than any other band you could see.

They REALLY REALLY stepped up their game this time. I can't imagine he can afford to do this again, so see this tour while you can. That set had to have cost $1,000,000. So amazing. Stunning visual piece after stunning visual piece. Our whole group was in awe. This was unbelievable, and as I said, you should ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE TO ORDER TICKETS IN YOUR AREA because mark my words, I don't think you will see a tour this good ever again. I don't know HOW you can, because I can't imagine Trent is making ANY money with the cheap ticket prices and amazing visuals. This is probably all of his ghosts profits going into this.


I never liked Aaron nearly as much as Robin Finck. The visuals were tenfold better, but so was the band. I am also very glad to have jeordie gone. In my opinion this is the greatest amount of talent Reznor has ever had in NIN. Not only the best visual pieces ever, but the best musicians ever.

Their new version of Survivalism is amazing. It was never a fav of mine on record and in Hawaii I thought it was only so-so. The drums this time MADE the song, and it was one of the greatest performances of the night.


Absolutely the best I have ever seen NIN. The best performances, the best visuals, and you know what else? The best set list.

Thank God the instruments are back, and better than ever. More instrumental variations than ever, and more instrumentals.



So in summation: Best visuals ever (not just for NIN, I have seen bigger bands like Roling Stones live and their visuals are pispoor compared to NIN,) greatest talent Reznor has ever included, and one hell of a setlist.
Bricklayer
First NIN live experience for me, and hopefully not the last.

This show was beautiful. Thrilling and stimulating on so many levels. The musicians are extraordinarily talented people, and brought it 100%. I wasn't in the pit, but wish I had been...I felt like I was irritating some people sitting around me because I couldn't sit and be still. This show was brilliant. The only complaint I have is an echo of others...during Hurt I just wanted to feel the pain he was trying to share, but everyone kept yelling through the song and it's silences. (I told them to shush, but they wouldn't listen to me)
I'm so thankful to have experienced Nine Inch Nails live, and plan on doing it over and over again.
show was amazing
ninfancy wrote:
thesloth wrote:
birdchick wrote:I have a few decent pics from this SO VERY AWESOME show! Thanks Trent & co. !!!
***good pictures***

*please don't steal these. i put them up simply to share. if you're interested in a large file, pm me. thanks!
Unless you were there shooting as a pro and licensed by NIN or the venue you have no right to either sell or copyright those photos. If you are then cool but you might want to mention that in your post.
Actually, by taking the photographs, he is now the owner of those images, he is the author, and owns the copyright to any images he took. He shouldn't sell them because it's a dickmove, but to put a CR on them is absolutely fine and perfectly within his legal rights. Don't talk unless you know what you are saying.
Photography release, anyone? No, legally he can't sell them without the band's permission. Legally, he can't publish them without the release.

He can put a copyright on it all he wants, that's fine. Doesn't mean he can do anything with them other than shove 'em up on flickr and hope people don't steal them.

The amount of times I've hunted down photos of mine used in eBay auctions sickens me. Not for sale, just as a picture to show the artist. Really fucking annoying.
Have been a NIN fan since '99, and this is my fourth NIN concert I've been to, and I think this one was the best. First encore I have ever seen from them, and I saw them at The Gorge twice (Fragility, Sasquatch), and Key Arena (With Teeth). I thought it was amazing after Great Destroyer, they came out and looked like they were in a pasture with dark clouds overhead. New bassist (forget his name) was playing the chello, which I thought was a cool effect. I think Survivalism is amazing live and more than replaces Starfuckers.

Visuals clearly set this tour apart from the others, as well as brining Fink back. His solo to open Only kicked ass. I think Only had the coolest visuals, with the stage covered in static, and whenever Trent sang, the static would clear around him. Then when they hit the chorus, the static would drop down and looked like the band was engulfed in flames.

I was worried that they weren't going to play Hurt because not only is it one of the greatest songs live, my girlfriend likes their more easy-listening songs. Unfortunately, during Hurt, this girl directly behing me kept screaming as loud as she could during the most inopportune times. Plus this other douchebag behind me sang in this loud, retarded voice, which those two things combined made it difficult to enjoy the song. I guess that's what you get when you have a hard-rock band, playing soft melodic songs in an arean environment, combined with a large portion of fans being socially retarded.
Bricklayer
So I took my wife and mom to this show and it was absolutely wonderful. The band line up seems damn near perfect to me. Some points of interest:

- As folks in this thread have already mentioned, Robin's guitar wasn't working at the start of Head Down; but I didn't see anyone point out that Alessandro started playing the main riff after Robin threw his guitar and walked off to get another one. I thought that was pretty cool. Good teamwork!

- The Ghosts stuff was terrific and I think I had excellent seats for it. We were in section 113 which gave us a partially angled view of the stage. This worked out well, because the way they had the screens layered for the start of 01 Ghosts I (the sand dunes were behind the band but the sky was out in front a bit... if that makes any sense) it had this neat 3D effect.

- Trent seemed very enthusiastic about it being the first real show of the arena tour and I can see why. He's got something really incredible here, and I'm sure he's just stoked to share it w/ everybody.

- I wouldn't say that the entire venue was packed w/ assholes... there's always at least a few people that yell during Hurt, eh? But what bothered me was that we had a few people behind us who wouldn't shut up during the Ghosts material, or any material they didn't know for that matter. They kept talking about how great NIN was in their "prime" and blah, blah, blah. I wanted to ask them why they even bothered to come to the concert if they weren't fans of the band, but that would've been probably uncalled for. They left around "the Greater Good" (one of the many highlights of the show) so it worked out, anyways.

- The "Ghosts version" of Piggy was fantastic, and they really let Josh go nuts on the drums towards the end which was cool.

- The Crystals Castles did NOT suck, in my opinion. But I had listened to them a bunch before hand. They're certainly not for everybody, but I enjoyed them.

That's about all I can think of to contribute here. I've never posted on ETS before, but I've been lurking since our first NIN show (the Ridgefield Amphitheater for With Teeth).
Knight of the Royal Axe
theCherneymin wrote: - The Crystals Castles did NOT suck, in my opinion. But I had listened to them a bunch before hand. They're certainly not for everybody, but I enjoyed them.
They really didn't. I hate hearing people say an opening band sucks simply because they don't like them. I personally thought they were good but a bit confusing as an opener for NIN. They seemed better fit for playing at a club-style venue where the target audience would be dancing instead of waiting to mosh.
Master ad Vitam
don't know which shows you were at then, but the WT shows at seattle portland and vancouver didn't have "encores" and the show at ridgefield didn't either. hlah was played last and the band never came back on.
hippybear wrote:
spookshow wrote:you musn't have been on any of the past tour then, we went to 4 shows and none of them had an encore from what i remember.
define: past tour

Both of the WT shows I saw had some form of "the band leaves stage, the crowd claps in darkness, the band comes back and everyone pretends like it wasn't planned"

Isn't that an "encore" as we know it in rock-n-roll?

Fragility 2.0 at The Gorge... well, I don't remember much about the end of that show. The colors all got really pretty...
Knight of the Royal Axe
spookshow wrote:the WT shows at seattle portland and vancouver didn't have "encores" and the show at ridgefield didn't either. hlah was played last and the band never came back on.
I took that as Trent basically implying we didn't deserve one because it seemed like we pissed him off that night. He hardly spoke to us and the crowd really wasn't doing too much there...
Master of the Ninth Arch
hippybear wrote: Wow, really? I think every one of the NIN shows I've seen has had an encore. You must draw the bad straw a lot, eh?
I saw them 4 times in '05-'06 and didn't see one single encore. Just played the set straight through. And from what I recall combing through the tour journal around that time, there didn't seem to be too many encores, if any. Hmmm...Are we all talking about the same Nine Inch Nails?
Bricklayer
i saw 3 shows in 05- seattle, portland, oakland
4 shows in 06- cabazon, las vegas, irvine, mountain view
plus the hawaii show in 07....

.....pretty sure there wasnt an encore at any of those.

when they started HLAH, i was pretty bummed. but then i heard the security guard in front of me tell another that there were 5 more songs....weeeeeeee!!!!!

damn. i forgot sasquatch and ridgefield in 06 as well...no encores
Master ad Vitam
Triggerm!ne wrote:
spookshow wrote:the WT shows at seattle portland and vancouver didn't have "encores" and the show at ridgefield didn't either. hlah was played last and the band never came back on.
I took that as Trent basically implying we didn't deserve one because it seemed like we pissed him off that night. He hardly spoke to us and the crowd really wasn't doing too much there...
yeah, he wasn't really happy with the crowd, but none of the shows had encores. it was a thing he was dong that tour i seem to remember
Master of the Ninth Arch
so at the photoblog archive there are two really good boots of the show. anyone know where these came from?
Master Traveler
It's interesting to hear varying reports of the GA crowd. I think it was a very different experience depending on where you were. I was third row right in front of Trent and the crush was pretty fucking intense. A girl to my right went down around the 4th song and was screaming and crying. She was either scared, hurt, or both. She got pulled out, but it was a little disturbing. I fell right after Trent threw the first tambourine into the crowd, but big thanks to whoever pulled me back up. A big fuck you to the little blond girl who elbowed me in the face as she shoved her way to the rail.

Anyway, being that close was really intense (in a good way). I'm pretty tall for a girl (5'10") so I could take it, but I found that I couldn't pay as close attention to the show as I wanted to when it was taking everything I had to stay on my feet, so during The Frail I made my way over to the far left (Justin's side). I could really enjoy the whole experience at that point.

On a side note, I think someone in front of me when I moved to the left literally shit their pants half way through the show. Wtf, man, wtf.

Highlights for me were the Greater Good and In This Twilight. Breathtaking. I've never seen anything like that. I'm not a huge Ghosts fan, but I LOVED it live. I'm so glad Robin is back. I enjoyed him so much. And I'm in awe of Josh like usual.

Did not enjoy Crystal Castles. Nice beats, but the singer just screamed unintelligibly. Made a game of trying to see the singer's panties to pass the time.
Grand Pontiff
the recording is on DIME.
Bricklayer
hippybear wrote: I must have been right behind you. Did you start out a bit further back and find yourself slightly closer over time? I started the show at nearly exactly half-court and ended it at about the "top of the key". I think I saw your camera being held up in front of me about 15 feet or so. Nicely mellow floor, indeed!
Could have been, that's where I started, and slowly wiggled up as the crowd shifted. Didn't have a camera though, but that was another thing I could complain about - holding up cameras above every ones head makes it pretty damn difficult to see, especially when you're covering up Trent!
Master of the Ninth Arch
RJonik wrote:the recording is on DIME.
hopefully i'll get an answer before this is deleted since i wasn't at the show.

why don't people put the torrent on piratebay? so many upload to ones like DIME that you have to have a membership for, and i do, but i have a suckass ISP (comcast) who kills my uploads (yes, i've done everything to get around this issue) so i can never keep my ratio what it needs to be to download.

piratebay, por favor?
utopia2064 wrote:It's interesting to hear varying reports of the GA crowd. I think it was a very different experience depending on where you were. I was third row right in front of Trent and the crush was pretty fucking intense. A girl to my right went down around the 4th song and was screaming and crying. She was either scared, hurt, or both. She got pulled out, but it was a little disturbing.
I had to have been right near you at some point because once I got yanked away from my friends near the rail and shoved back several feet, I was close to the girl who got pulled out (she was to my left.) If you have blonde hair, I think I saw you (I'm a short chick with black hair.)

And the crush at that spot was intense- that's what I've been bitching about (ad naseum, heh.) Being so short, I was literally trapped between a bunch of tall sweaty guys and could not breathe.
utopia2064 wrote:I fell right after Trent threw the first tambourine into the crowd, but big thanks to whoever pulled me back up. A big fuck you to the little blond girl who elbowed me in the face as she shoved her way to the rail.
That sucks! I'm glad you were pulled up right away. That must have happened after I wussed out and went to the back, I didn't see you/anyone else go down.
utopia2064 wrote:Anyway, being that close was really intense (in a good way). I'm pretty tall for a girl (5'10") so I could take it, but I found that I couldn't pay as close attention to the show as I wanted to when it was taking everything I had to stay on my feet,
Yes! Just trying not to get pushed around/away was taking everything I had and even then, my feet barely touched the floor. (Yeah I'm only 5'2", but I can often hold my own even in a real pit. This was just crazy.) I finally gave up & went to the back because I couldn't enjoy this show that I'd been anticipating for so long (skipped the W_T show, so haven't seen them since Fragility 2.0.)
utopia2064 wrote:On a side note, I think someone in front of me when I moved to the left literally shit their pants half way through the show. Wtf, man, wtf.
Ugh! I didn't smell Crappy McShittypants, thankfully. But I had to jump in the shower within 5 mins. of walking in the door because I smelled like some gross dude's BO sweat. Yuck!
utopia2064 wrote:Did not enjoy Crystal Castles. Nice beats, but the singer just screamed unintelligibly. Made a game of trying to see the singer's panties to pass the time.
Now I really wish I'd talked to you, because that last line made me laugh like hell! What an awesome way to pass the seconds until we got our NIN fix. You rock : )
Master Traveler
@utopia2064 ^^

That was me. I didn't realize I wasn't logged in, duh.
Master Traveler
I recorded the entire show on video, i will have it up on my Youtube account soon. As well i will post all my photos up on here soon in a edit of this.

DesolateMinds on youtube.

*also thanks for the up on demonoid, i lost my account on dimeadozen years ago. Demonoid is currently running at 300kbps for the 669mb flac.
Master of the Ninth Arch
The-Lost-Son-Of-Yours wrote:I recorded the entire show on video, i will have it up on my Youtube account soon. As well i will post all my photos up on here soon in a edit of this.

DesolateMinds on youtube.

*also thanks for the up on demonoid, i lost my account on dimeadozen years ago. Demonoid is currently running at 300kbps for the 669mb flac.
will you be sharing a torrent of the original?
Master Traveler
ScreamingSlave wrote:
The-Lost-Son-Of-Yours wrote:I recorded the entire show on video, i will have it up on my Youtube account soon. As well i will post all my photos up on here soon in a edit of this.

DesolateMinds on youtube.

*also thanks for the up on demonoid, i lost my account on dimeadozen years ago. Demonoid is currently running at 300kbps for the 669mb flac.
will you be sharing a torrent of the original?
Sure once i get it all lined out.
Master Traveler
1. Seattle security is a joke. Filmed the whole thing from sec 114, row 9

2. PanPacific hotel sucks

3. Visuals were incredible even if you didn't smoke any super skunk

4. Surprised TR attempted In This Twilight (high notes) after having done a show the night before. Wouldnt be surprised if he dropped it from the set

5. i hope GodGiven for LA. Worth the trip to Seattle , space needle is about as tall as the downtown LA apartment building i live in....weak
Master Traveler
utopia2064 wrote:I was third row right in front of Trent and the crush was pretty fucking intense. A girl to my right went down around the 4th song and was screaming and crying. She was either scared, hurt, or both. She got pulled out, but it was a little disturbing.
Did the girl have brown hair? and was she wearing black? and she fell and started crying/screaming during MOTP?

That might have been my friend. She's never been in a tight mosh pit like that and she freaked out.
Master Traveler
misanthropia wrote:Now I really wish I'd talked to you, because that last line made me laugh like hell! What an awesome way to pass the seconds until we got our NIN fix. You rock : )
No, I'm not blonde. I have brown shoulder-length hair and was wearing a red tshirt with snakes and flowers on it. I wish I would have been a little more chatty with the people around me too instead of just talking to the people I was with. I'm sure I was surrounded by ETSers. In fact, I recognize most of the people in the photo "Gave Up" that Rob posted on the website (I was right in that spot for the first half of the show, but bailed before that photo was taken.)
Master Traveler
ningamer wrote:
utopia2064 wrote:I was third row right in front of Trent and the crush was pretty fucking intense. A girl to my right went down around the 4th song and was screaming and crying. She was either scared, hurt, or both. She got pulled out, but it was a little disturbing.
Did the girl have brown hair? and was she wearing black? and she fell and started crying/screaming during MOTP?

That might have been my friend. She's never been in a tight mosh pit like that and she freaked out.
It was definitely during MOTP and she was screaming and crying. I think she had brown hair but I didn't notice what she was wearing. Sounds like it's probably the same person. Is your friend ok? Did she get hurt or just scared? My husband was trying really hard to get her off the ground.
Master ad Vitam
slickmode wrote:1. Seattle security is a joke. Filmed the whole thing from sec 114, row 9

you going to share this filming this time, or just keep it for yourself again..
Master of the Ninth Arch
cock vomit wrote:
hippybear wrote: Wow, really? I think every one of the NIN shows I've seen has had an encore. You must draw the bad straw a lot, eh?
I saw them 4 times in '05-'06 and didn't see one single encore. Just played the set straight through. And from what I recall combing through the tour journal around that time, there didn't seem to be too many encores, if any. Hmmm...Are we all talking about the same Nine Inch Nails?
I may have to stand corrected. Perhaps I misinterpreted an earlier break in the show(s) as the break, which then all ended exactly as you have described. I certainly do remember each of the shows I attended had a moment when everything basically went static and the lights were out, and the band seemed to leave the stage... and then they started up again.

*shrug*
Bricklayer
My Photos and Video

I didn't feel comfortable bringing my DSLR up from Portland and leaving it in the parking garage while I nerded out at the Experience Music Project and the Sci-Fi Museum -- which was IMHO a great way to spend the afternoon before the show and make the trip north more worthwhile.

So, apologies for the funky quality my little camera had -- enjoy the view from Section 101, Row 12, Seat 17.
Bricklayer
so, is there any chance of getting a copy of this show without using a torrent? i am torrentretarded.....
Master of the Ninth Arch
slickmode wrote: 4. Surprised TR attempted In This Twilight (high notes) after having done a show the night before. Wouldnt be surprised if he dropped it from the set
That, more than anything, stuck out to me the most (in jfb's recording).
spookshow wrote:don't know which shows you were at then, but the WT shows at seattle portland and vancouver didn't have "encores" and the show at ridgefield didn't either. hlah was played last and the band never came back on.


The vancouver with teeth show in sept. '05 definitely had an encore with Hurt being played.

Also, being a bassist I would be remiss not to mention that the bassist Trent has here is heads and shoulders above any other bassist Trent has brought out. Especially Jeordie.... jesus.

Of course he really shines with beck where his bass playing is allowed to go off a little more, but he was solid throughout this show and really put on a good performance.
Master Traveler
Oh, those lucky bastards!: http://ninblogs.wordpress.com/2008/07/2 ... retched-2/

Sigh. I felt like he teased us then pulled out early when we got Closer instead of The Wretched. Wretchedus Interruptus! *shakes fist*
Master Traveler
utopia2064 wrote:
ningamer wrote:
utopia2064 wrote:I was third row right in front of Trent and the crush was pretty fucking intense. A girl to my right went down around the 4th song and was screaming and crying. She was either scared, hurt, or both. She got pulled out, but it was a little disturbing.
Did the girl have brown hair? and was she wearing black? and she fell and started crying/screaming during MOTP?

That might have been my friend. She's never been in a tight mosh pit like that and she freaked out.
It was definitely during MOTP and she was screaming and crying. I think she had brown hair but I didn't notice what she was wearing. Sounds like it's probably the same person. Is your friend ok? Did she get hurt or just scared? My husband was trying really hard to get her off the ground.
Well she hadn't eaten or drunken anything since breakfast, so she was feeling pretty weak. She was telling me before the show started that she was really dizzy.

She was wearing some really baggy pants and everyone kept on stepping on them, bringing her down to the floor. When MOTP started, she pretty much fainted to the floor and no one seemed to notice so my friend and I spent half the song trying to get her up before anyone else saw her. She was nearly trampled to death so that's why she was screaming and crying. Thanks for helping whoever did. I wasn't expecting the pit to be that intense.
Master Traveler
ningamer wrote:
Well she hadn't eaten or drunken anything since breakfast, so she was feeling pretty weak. She was telling me before the show started that she was really dizzy.

She was wearing some really baggy pants and everyone kept on stepping on them, bringing her down to the floor. When MOTP started, she pretty much fainted to the floor and no one seemed to notice so my friend and I spent half the song trying to get her up before anyone else saw her. She was nearly trampled to death so that's why she was screaming and crying. Thanks for helping whoever did. I wasn't expecting the pit to be that intense.
That sucks that she had a bad experience. Hopefully she was able to enjoy the rest of the concert after she got pulled out. Next time, maybe seats and a protein bar? :)
Knight of the Royal Axe
******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
Bricklayer
amazing show! i was completely blown away by the ghosts tracks. the lights and screens were incredible. it was truly awesome.
it's definitely one of the best nin shows i've been too, despite a few guys being real assholes in the pit. i wish i could attend more shows on this tour...

edit : only two guys really pissed me off (fucking drunk assholes obviously). the rest of the crowd was actually pretty cool.
Bricklayer
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
A city having a parade? How dare them!
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
dude, they only played 6 songs from the slip, one of which was 999,999 and isn't really a full song, so how can you say they mainly played songs from the slip?
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****

you cheaped out and got a hotel in Everett and then bitch about traffic...you get what you paid for....Everett is not Seattle.

It was a busy night in Seattle. Block Party on the Hill, Melvins at the showbox....a damn marathon from Qwest Field to downtown...and yes that dumb parade.

But with all of that how does Seattle suck....it sounds to me like its a place where alot of shit happens....as opposed to paint drying....

and it's Finck....BTW!
Prince Adept
CasualJesus wrote:
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
A city having a parade? How dare them!
What, cities don't shut down when concerts roll through?
Knight of the Royal Axe
Oh jesus, Seattle doesn't suck. I grew up in Seattle. ages 1-11. Seattle is actually one of my favorites cities in the U.S. I was just pissy about the traffic. I saw you O_M on my way out, decided not to say hi due to our bitch out on the knot thread. LoL. Also, What I was trying to say was there was already one main street in downtown Seattle shut down and I believe a parade on another one and 2 concerts in downtown Seattle. It took me a hour in a half to get less than a mile once downtown. My own fault, but holy fuck a hour and a half to get less than a mile really did upset me specially knowing how NIN usually starts at 9:00. Fuck me!

Great fucking show I wish I could re live it. Also, I never said the amount of slip songs were bad. I said they lacked what the older songs had live. Just a con not a horrible thing. Although, the ghost songs were FANTASTIC! Fink, Finck whatever the man is meant to play for NIN. he brings that element that NIN has been missing.

Again wear earplugs, this NIN show is much louder than the with teeth shows.

On a side note I saw The dark knight at bowing Xmax theater. Holy fuck!





****** thanks kacorock!!!!!**********
Master of the Ninth Arch
Rdm wrote:Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
Rdm wrote:Again wear earplugs, this NIN show is much louder than the with teeth shows.
Why do I feel like I stepped into an alternate reality for this show? I distinctly remember the WT Portland show... the two warmup bands were LOUD, and I was thinking, "okay, if NIN is like this, I can live through it", and then when NIN started, it LITERALLY pushed the crowd back about 3 feet with the first chord, it was so loud.

By comparison, LITS is TOTALLY not loud. I didn't even leave the show with my ears ringing like I do from nearly every other show. I was standing "at the top of the key" on the floor of the basketball arena, not that far from the stage... Did I find a doorway trying to seal itself shut and climb through, or was I actually at the NIN show this weekend?
duh!@! wrote:
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****

you cheaped out and got a hotel in Everett and then bitch about traffic...you get what you paid for....Everett is not Seattle.

It was a busy night in Seattle. Block Party on the Hill, Melvins at the showbox....a damn marathon from Qwest Field to downtown...and yes that dumb parade.

But with all of that how does Seattle suck....it sounds to me like its a place where alot of shit happens....as opposed to paint drying....

and it's Finck....BTW!
well said. and Finck? for real?
Master Traveler
ultrarealism wrote:
Rdm wrote:*****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
Which ones would you recommend being the best?
I use the moldable silicone plugs (Mack's, rated at 22db). I can partially pull them away from my ear to adjust how much sound I want to let in. I'm fussy about my hearing and never go to any concert without them.

Avoid the foam plugs, they're a nightmare to deal with.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Meat wrote:
duh!@! wrote:
Rdm wrote:******* personal rant about city*******I just got home from Seattle just now. 12:00 o'clock pacific time. First thing, I would like to start off saying is Seattle was a huge cluster fuck that night. I left my hotel room at 6:30 from Everette(30 min from Seattle) took me 2 and half hours to get to the venue. I missed the first three songs. WTF! A street was closed in downtown Seattle and they were having a fucking parade!? Also, they(key arena) weren't serving alcohol after 9:30!? Man Seattle sucks ass. *** end rant about city*****


However, the show was AMAZING. The visuals were much better than the fragiltiy and with teeth shows without a doubt. The sound destroys the teeth and fragility shows as well.

Seattle show= best NIN show I ever witness.

Best part of the show was the ghost segment by FAR. It was a 15 minute jam out session with trent on a xylophone and fink on the flute and guitar, and justin on a classical style bass, and alexandro on the keys . The ghost part just kept building and building until reaching a huge climax musically and visually. Best single song was in this twilight. FINK IS BACK AND NIN IS BETTER THAN EVER! They really have that old NIN sound back again.

Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO). Another con was the "only", and " the hand that feeds" combo. Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****

you cheaped out and got a hotel in Everett and then bitch about traffic...you get what you paid for....Everett is not Seattle.

It was a busy night in Seattle. Block Party on the Hill, Melvins at the showbox....a damn marathon from Qwest Field to downtown...and yes that dumb parade.

But with all of that how does Seattle suck....it sounds to me like its a place where alot of shit happens....as opposed to paint drying....

and it's Finck....BTW!
well said. and Finck? for real?


Did you not read my new post


"Oh jesus, Seattle doesn't suck. I grew up in Seattle. ages 1-11. Seattle is actually one of my favorites cities in the U.S. I was just pissy about the traffic. I saw you O_M on my way out, decided not to say hi due to our bitch out on the knot thread. LoL. Also, What I was trying to say was there was already one main street in downtown Seattle shut down and I believe a parade on another one and 2 concerts in downtown Seattle. It took me a hour in a half to get less than a mile once downtown. My own fault, but holy fuck a hour and a half to get less than a mile really did upset me specially knowing how NIN usually starts at 9:00. Fuck me!

Great fucking show I wish I could re live it. Also, I never said the amount of slip songs were bad. I said they lacked what the older songs had live. Just a con not a horrible thing. Although, the ghost songs were FANTASTIC! Fink, Finck whatever the man is meant to play for NIN. he brings that element that NIN has been missing.

Again wear earplugs, this NIN show is much louder than the with teeth shows".

I spent a total of 700 dollar on this show. I believe i didn't " cheap out"

Holy fuck
Bricklayer
johnbron wrote:I have never been surround by so many completely drunk and obnoxious assholes and cunts. The show itself was great but I will never be wasting my time coming to Seattle for a show again.

Hopefully the fans at the California shows are people who actually want to be there to see and hear the show.
I've seen NIN two times in California, and this was my first time in Seattle. I, likewise will never go to a Seattle concert again. I was very angry about the assholes. California fans are much, much different.
Bricklayer
I was so impressed this time around. I think this was the best time I have ever seen NIN. Trent was so energetic. The visuals were AMAZING.

I thought the people there were pretty lame though. Some guy kept yelling "I like cheese" during Hurt. I even had a guy get into an argument with me and my girlfriend, asking us to sit down! He ended up saying some not so nice things. Who the hell sits down during NIN?!?
Master Traveler
Rdm wrote:Another con was the volume of the show was way too fucking loud. *****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
No way. It wasn't loud enough by far. I'm totally serious. I was able to carry on a conversation with the person next to me. That shouldn't be possible.
Bricklayer
I have been to concerts on east coast and this is/was 1st time at the key and i have to say i loved every second of it,it was small which was great and it was loud which was even greater and i can see the damn band from my seat,i love seattle and all it has to offer as far as sight seeing.i love pikes place i even went there sunday morning and had nice time,i dident spend that much but this concert sent me back bout 500$and ill do it again,i had a great hotel room was worth the 160$ and for the person that stayed at a hotel in everett ewww i used to live in that city im bout 15 min outta it,i knew the traffic would be bad so i parked my car at everett station and took bus,i got there in 1/2 hour.never drive to seattle on a sat you be crazy
Bricklayer
i didnt think it was that loud either. i was on the rail and could talk to the people next to me with no problem.

doors were supposed to be at 6:30. why would you wait until THEN to LEAVE Everett...which is AT least 30 minutes away on a good day?

i thought it was cool to have the parade being staged around us while we were in line.
seattle is great.

I didn't know about the parade and whatnot, so when I saw the cars backed up for mercer, I just got off on the next exit.

the show was not very loud, some asshole across the aisle from me spent most of the show flirting with his girlfriend, and during hurt he actually got his cell phone out and started listening to music through the speaker...

but beyond that, it was a standard concert, everyone for themselves mostly. Anyone who is actually complaining about the people is either delusional, or has never been to a concert before, ever.

Grow up, stay at a hotel in seattle or research the commute, don't go in the pit if you don't want to be in a pit.

People complain if the pit is intense, and people complain if the pit is lackluster. you can't have it both ways people, if you want to show off your dance moves, go to the back of the floor, if you want to be close to the band (like everyone else), deal with the crushing surge that comes along with it.
ninfancy wrote:seattle is great.

I didn't know about the parade and whatnot, so when I saw the cars backed up for mercer, I just got off on the next exit.

the show was not very loud, some asshole across the aisle from me spent most of the show flirting with his girlfriend, and during hurt he actually got his cell phone out and started listening to music through the speaker...

but beyond that, it was a standard concert, everyone for themselves mostly. Anyone who is actually complaining about the people is either delusional, or has never been to a concert before, ever.

Grow up, stay at a hotel in seattle or research the commute, don't go in the pit if you don't want to be in a pit.

People complain if the pit is intense, and people complain if the pit is lackluster. you can't have it both ways people, if you want to show off your dance moves, go to the back of the floor, if you want to be close to the band (like everyone else), deal with the crushing surge that comes along with it.
I totally agree the standard concert thing....complaining about the the pit and determining that its exclusive to Seattle or a Seattle show is silly....Any town....and Any Show (withing reason, ha!) could and does have assholes who can make it a bad show for some.

I was in 114 with the rest of the presale's and except for the guy who decided he wanted to talk (shout) on his phone during the ghosts set...everyone was cool....and seemed to be having a great time.

This show was as standard as they come....at least as far as the crowd was concerned. PPl were there...most had fun....some did not....

GREAT SHOW!
Grand Pontiff
PonchAxis wrote:So I guess get earplugs.
I don't think you need them for this show, myself.. my ears weren't ringing like they always do after a big show and I was 15' from the front left. I think they've found a happy medium to punish us with this tour.

I do plan on getting a good pair in the near future for shows.. I'm starting to realize they are probably more important than most think, especially for smaller venues. There's some good insight in the Concerts thread somewhere a bit back I think.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Kylenn Black wrote:
ultrarealism wrote:
Rdm wrote:*****WEAR EARPLUGS*****
Which ones would you recommend being the best?
I use the moldable silicone plugs (Mack's, rated at 22db). I can partially pull them away from my ear to adjust how much sound I want to let in. I'm fussy about my hearing and never go to any concert without them.

Avoid the foam plugs, they're a nightmare to deal with.
Hearos are good too. They're designed for musicians and they are what I wore there. I'm lucky my hearing hasn't gone on me with how much exposure I've had to live music so I figured I'd make sure it stays that way and where some to the show. I don't regret it.
Knight of the Royal Axe
sloburnt wrote:
PonchAxis wrote:So I guess get earplugs.
I don't think you need them for this show, myself.. my ears weren't ringing like they always do after a big show and I was 15' from the front left. I think they've found a happy medium to punish us with this tour.

I do plan on getting a good pair in the near future for shows.. I'm starting to realize they are probably more important than most think, especially for smaller venues. There's some good insight in the Concerts thread somewhere a bit back I think.
Well everyone will have their opinions, BUT I can defiantly say one thing the concert was much longer than the with teeth shows. So longer concert= longer exposure to loud music.

IMO the concert was the loudest NIN show I been to and this was my 10th NIN and best NIN show.

For those looking for some information about earplugs check this page out.
http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/v ... start=3900

direct link to the site.
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.aspx

Hope that helps
Bricklayer
The only problems I had in seattle was getting to my hotel room on 6th. It was damn near impossible as all the streets were blocked off, and it made us late for the show as we were forced to go the long way around. We literally had to leave seattle, take a uturn route on the highway, and come back just to get across.

Other than that it was great. Didn't have many problems with assholes, just your average burnouts dancing and bumping into you. Solution - move.

I thought I would have needed ear plugs, but I didn't. After the with teeth show at GM place, my ears rang for a week, but at this one the volume was perfect. No ringing after the show.
Master ad Vitam
I agree, this was my 5 NIN show and the volume was great. And the best part? The BASS goes BOMB!!! It was rattling my skeleton! I LOVE that feeling, the bass echoing in my chest!! It's so exhilarating...

I wish I could do it over again!
Bricklayer
I think it's funny how anyone can complain about people bumping into them or it being too loud at a rock show.
That show fucking owned, and I was really sick that day too.

Some people will find anything to complain about.

Example:
Random ETS'r wrote: space needle is about as tall as the downtown LA apartment building i live in....weak
WAHHH!
Bricklayer
So this was my first NiN show, and we had GA tickets...

My Camera:

- Did anyone find it? It's a sony 7.1 megapixel with a 1 gig memory stick in it that had a blank label. The memory stick is black. There should be only a handful of crystal castles photos and a few beach photos of my friends and possibly photos from what would look like a wedding reception. If anyone has it, please let me know, if not, no worries - just thought i'd ask. I was wearing the 'beets killer tofu '96' tshirt if anyone was standing around me who may have seen the camera pop out.

The show:

- Amazing, eclectic, full of energy. What more could you want?

People:

- Props to the dude with the subway cookies in his jackets...and condolences that they got smashed up.

- More props to the girl who seemed to know so much about cookies

- Negative props to the other girl with the giant freaking orange sign who sat on my knee as she tried to snake her way up to the front.

- Apologies to anyone who was elbowed accidentally by my beanie-clad sweaty self.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Rdm wrote:
Also, everyone will have their cons about every show and mine for sure was the slip songs. I thought they were good, but they didn't hold up like the older songs( again IMO).
My biggest concern in the wake of the release of The Slip, which I was initially lukewarm to, was that I thought the upcoming tour would focus on it in favor of Year Zero material, which is what I really wanted to see/hear.

I thought one of the best (of many great) set choices was the decision to start the show off with all the SLIPpery stuff. That way those who don't care for it had it all out of the way from the get go, pretty much, and those who love it got the show started off with a big bang. Smart stuff as Trent is obviously aware of the polarizing nature of that album.

Personally I thought all the Slip songs came off great, though I agree with someone who posted here earlier that 'Letting You' didn't rock my face off quite as much as I thought it might based on the rehearsal performance.
Master Traveler
Hearos are good too. They're designed for musicians and they are what I wore there.
Thanks, I'll definitely check them out.

ETA: Skull Screws. Hilarious!
But with all of that how does Seattle suck....it sounds to me like its a place where alot of shit happens....as opposed to paint drying....
The gay community and Asian community are especially awesome - they throw the best parties and invite the entire city. Pride and Chinese New Year are about the most fun you'll have all year.

Events aside, traffic does suck terribly. A note for future travelers - come a day early and stay in a hotel downtown close to the venue. Paying the extra $ is worth avoiding the aggravation of gridlock.
H4wduk3n wrote: My Camera:

- Did anyone find it? It's a sony 7.1 megapixel with a 1 gig memory stick in it that had a blank label. The memory stick is black. There should be only a handful of crystal castles photos and a few beach photos of my friends and possibly photos from what would look like a wedding reception. If anyone has it, please let me know, if not, no worries - just thought i'd ask. I was wearing the 'beets killer tofu '96' tshirt if anyone was standing around me who may have seen the camera pop out.
I came across this on craigslist (it is not me).

http://eugene.craigslist.org/laf/774223030.html
Bricklayer
Jeff Free wrote:
H4wduk3n wrote: My Camera:

- Did anyone find it? It's a sony 7.1 megapixel with a 1 gig memory stick in it that had a blank label. The memory stick is black. There should be only a handful of crystal castles photos and a few beach photos of my friends and possibly photos from what would look like a wedding reception. If anyone has it, please let me know, if not, no worries - just thought i'd ask. I was wearing the 'beets killer tofu '96' tshirt if anyone was standing around me who may have seen the camera pop out.
I came across this on craigslist (it is not me).

http://eugene.craigslist.org/laf/774223030.html
You rock - thanks much for being heads up about it. I just emailed the person and things are in motion - still looking for the camera itself or word of its demise.

My faith in people is reinforced.
Master Traveler
To anyone else who took video at the Seattle show:

I'm wanting to put up a torrent sometime in the next few weeks, basically a video bootleg of the show.

- Audio quality doesn't matter, I'm going to try to use a mixture of my audio and the FLAC bootleg that was posted.
- Video quality does matter a bit. Cellphone video is out, most newer still cameras are acceptable quality, and most dedicated camcorders are best. Contact me if you shot video from a still camera or camcorder and are interested.
- I'm mainly looking for closeup stuff from the right side of the stage, preferably from the rail, or zoomed in (without much quality loss) from the seats on the right. Also looking for straight-on shots (as if taken from the lighting/mixing stand point of view.)

All footage is welcome, but I really need footage from:
- 1,000,000 - I was so giddy the camcorder was bouncing everywhere. Also had the security guy shine a light at me so I shut off the camcorder for a few seconds in the middle of the song ("...that's enough for you, but I still need more more more...")
- Letting You - I didn't record this at all because of the security-light-thing from before.
- March of the Pigs - My entire video is pit chaos, captures the experience of being there during the song, but some variety would be nice.
- The Warning, The Great Destroyer, Ghosts 25, Ghosts 31 - I took partial video of these for various reasons. Mostly I have the beginning and end of the songs, but not the middle bits. I missed almost the entire TGD breakdown because security guys were looking for pot in the pit, and I thought they were looking for video cameras =D

I can provide a FTP site for upload. I'd like the files in their original quality/format/size/etc. (unmodified.)

Please contact me by PM on here if interested. It would be nice if you have an example of the video on YouTube. Again - audio quality doesn't matter, just the image.

And to everyone else - most of the videos are uploaded, and can be seen on my YouTube playlist for the show: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 5ECFAAE689

Thanks!

Edit:
To whoever recorded the FLAC bootleg of the show:
Please PM me, I'd like to get your go-ahead before mixing your audio up with mine, and also information for giving you proper credit.
Bricklayer
jpmreprise wrote:Everything about this show was obviously, amazing. I especially enjoyed the use of the Monome, the Buchla 200e, and Jazz Mutant Lemur during the performance. So fucking cool how it was midi routed with the light show during Echoplex. Thanks to all you rad fuckers before the show for holding the lines and for being so.. rad. We looked out for each other dudes.

http://vimeo.com/1415133

ohh i have sexier photos than last time:
http://flickr.com/photos/25178636@N02/s ... 446788600/
Master of the Ninth Arch
KyleEasterly wrote:To anyone else who took video at the Seattle show:

I'm wanting to put up a torrent sometime in the next few weeks, basically a video bootleg of the show.

- Audio quality doesn't matter, I'm going to try to use a mixture of my audio and the FLAC bootleg that was posted.
- Video quality does matter a bit. Cellphone video is out, most newer still cameras are acceptable quality, and most dedicated camcorders are best. Contact me if you shot video from a still camera or camcorder and are interested.
- I'm mainly looking for closeup stuff from the right side of the stage, preferably from the rail, or zoomed in (without much quality loss) from the seats on the right. Also looking for straight-on shots (as if taken from the lighting/mixing stand point of view.)

All footage is welcome, but I really need footage from:
- 1,000,000 - I was so giddy the camcorder was bouncing everywhere. Also had the security guy shine a light at me so I shut off the camcorder for a few seconds in the middle of the song ("...that's enough for you, but I still need more more more...")
- Letting You - I didn't record this at all because of the security-light-thing from before.
- March of the Pigs - My entire video is pit chaos, captures the experience of being there during the song, but some variety would be nice.
- The Warning, The Great Destroyer, Ghosts 25, Ghosts 31 - I took partial video of these for various reasons. Mostly I have the beginning and end of the songs, but not the middle bits. I missed almost the entire TGD breakdown because security guys were looking for pot in the pit, and I thought they were looking for video cameras =D

I can provide a FTP site for upload. I'd like the files in their original quality/format/size/etc. (unmodified.)

Please contact me by PM on here if interested. It would be nice if you have an example of the video on YouTube. Again - audio quality doesn't matter, just the image.

And to everyone else - most of the videos are uploaded, and can be seen on my YouTube playlist for the show: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 5ECFAAE689

Thanks!

Edit:
To whoever recorded the FLAC bootleg of the show:
Please PM me, I'd like to get your go-ahead before mixing your audio up with mine, and also information for giving you proper credit.
my advice would be to use the FLAC audio for the entire show for purposes of quality and continuity... Purists would take up enough issue with piecing together multiple video sources. I really doubt the camera audio will ever be better than the FLAC, which sounds like it was taped with a decent binaural setup. A rolloff at 30hz might freeup some bass energy but I doubt you're gonna reduce the crowd noise without messing it up (the music for the most part is sitting in the same frequencies)... I might have time to do some mastering if you're gonna put a lot of effort in. Also, are you planning on taking the titles you put on the youtube videos off?

just some friendly musings.
Master Traveler
On the audio:

My audio on Hurt was ruined in many places because of some loud dudes behind me. I spent some time yesterday using the FLAC and my audio together, actually get a pretty cool reinforcement/chorus during the crowd sing-along parts. The FLAC has a lot less low-end than my video did. I just need to sync the video and audio back together and I'll put it on YouTube.

The titles will go away on any torrent version, or if it's a DVD image, I'll try to find some way to make them optional. Those titles were just for YouTube purposes, just in case non-familiar viewers ended up seeing it somehow.

I'm going to Lollapalooza, and going to try to get the camera in there also. I'm making a list of shots I need to get to fill in gaps in mine, and I'll be in a different position too (further back, hopefully not getting bumped into as much.) I might be able to get some decent all-HD video together for at least some of the songs.

Thanks for the input!
Global Mod
Holy shit! It's me, posting something.

I don't think I'm going to say anything new, but here's my .02:

Pre Show: Pre sale was a total joke. No sound check? Why am I here at 3 in the fucking afternoon? Because the arena is only going to open ONE window for Will Call, so it's going to take that long to get us in? This was, at best, smoke up my ass. Also, Goths burst into flame when they're in the sun too long. This was reckless.

Crystal Castles: Boooo. Beats were good, but they are stolen beats & samples, and why would you steal crap? The singer needs to expand her sound: loud whispering and loud screaming are totally cool vocal approaches, just, not for every fucking song. But they were on for 20 minutes, so whatevs.

The Show:
Well fuck me, the old man still has it. If it's any indication, I kept telling the guy I was with that we were going to see "Robin Fink & Nine Inch Nails". I was REALLY excited to see RF back in the saddle, just like old times. TR seemed to feel the same way, and expressed it on stage, to a massive roar from the audience. I'm pretty sure I was the only person who ripped their shirt off and spun it over my head during Discipline, so fuck you to all the poseurs!
The pit didn't bother me at all, it WAS a rawk show, y'know, people turn into assholes when the lights go down, if you're on the floor, you should expect it.
For those of you who saw the WT tour, you'll be happy to know that TR still has that vo-coder dodad on his mike stand but now, it works like a dream. He was playing it like an instrument in its own right. Speaking of instrumentation, the classical music lesson in the middle of the show was excellent. Does anyone know was Alessandro was playing? It looked 'sorta' like a viola, but I thought I saw this weird 'fin' shape coming off the bottom.
The interactive light show was amazing. The length of the set was AMAZING (2 hours), and many a song I did not expect to hear. All in all, fucking fantastic.
I almost danced/moshed/jumped myself out of my pants (aren't you sorry you missed that?)
2 tambourines, one water bottle, thrown to the crowd.

PS If you're wondering if you saw me, I was in GA, middle. I had on a black tank top, and I have a super bright/colorful full sleeve tattoo of 'flowers' and trippy spiral shit.
Bricklayer
I'm working on an updated MP3 version of the Flac show. Just for a more complete collectible. It will be encoded with Lame 3.98 V0. It will come with a PDF file which includes many of the cool pictures from this thread, and a link to the YouTube videos available. Its re tagged with album art! Its uploading now.
Master Traveler
Here are just a couple videos from my Camera, I recorded the Whole Show, during the middle set i had like 30 minutes lost when my hand got smacked down when a crowd surfer went over head and knocked my hand loose of the camera, the data was lost for that time, unrecognized format is what it said, i was so angry, but i did record the entire show. Will post more as time goes by, seeing that there will be no Blu-Ray this season. Also i was at the Portland Show this December 2008. Will be posting that entire show on my vimeo account in the next month. And will Have it available as a torrent with the original files. Also recorded the entire show of Crystal Castles, will upload afterwards.

Here are a couple videos i uploaded from the Seattle Show at the Key Arena.

I have neglected my videos from shows that i have gone to, mostly because you tube was horrible with compression, so once i opened a vimeo account i was hooked. Full High definition Capabilities. I was in heaven. I still have a you tube account, and will still go ahead and post videos there too.

http://www.youtube.com/DesolateMinds


http://vimeo.com/desolateminds
Master Traveler
This was by far the best "visual" show in a long...long...long...time.