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2008/08/10 - Baltimore, MD [Pimlico Race Course]

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2008-08-10 Show date
Virgin Mobile Festival at Pimlico Race Course Venue
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2008/08/10 - Baltimore, MD [Pimlico Race Course]
@ Virgin Festival

You know the drill. Post only if you were there in body (since it's a festival, I think it's best to make that the only requirement)

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Master Traveler
wow wow wow!!!!! fukn aye that was the shit. hurt still gives me goose bumps. I don't know the setlist, seemed the same as the last shows. was it me or was there a bunch of ghosts tracks played? sounded awesome. the lights..oh those fukn lights. intro 2 only was sweet. god dam that was a show. u could hear TR voice fukn up, felt kinda bad. the man is the shit. the highlight 4 me was EVERYfuknThing. well off to knoxville. wwowwoowowowoowowowowoowowowowooowowwoowow still all pumped. sorry if I flapped it, I haven't seen nin since july 8th, 2006. :) fukn nin is the shit! poor kayne, TR told us 2 go see him play, cuz nobdy was there...hahaahaa 1 down, 4 more 2 go....
Bricklayer
Great show.. Sorry, no setlist, but it's pretty similar to previous shows. A little shorter, since it was a festival (i.e. no Head Down, Good Soldier, etc.). The reports on visuals which I've been reading here did not disappoint. In hindsight, I wish I had watched at least part of the show from further away to get a better view of the graphics, but there is always Philadelphia... I was about 20-30 feet back from the rail on the left side.

After talking to the crowd for a minute and introducing Hurt ("And now we're going to play something depressing"), Robin's guitar wasn't working, so it took 30 seconds or so to get a replacement.. Trent looked furious on the screen, but didn't say anything.

The drunken redneck factor was a solid 8, which normally would have pissed me off, but STP's set earlier was a full blown 10, so I could manage.

I will link to my pics after I upload them to flickr...
Master of the Ninth Arch
The show was great! The redneck factor does score an 8 with me as well and some idiots just pick the wrong time to crowd surf. I did not hear anything wrong or messed up with trents voice and the visuals were by far TOP NOTCH!

Oh the last thing Trent said was "Go stop by Kayne (West) he looks a little lonely with everybody over here"
Master of the Ninth Arch
999,999
1,000,000
Letting You
Discipline
March of the Pigs
The Frail
Closer
Gave Up
The Warning
Vessel
Ghosts 1
Ghosts
Ghosts
Piggy
The Greater Good
Pinion
Wish
Terrible Lie
Survivalism
The Big Come Down
Ghosts 31
Only
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like a Hole
(encore)
Echoplex
Hurt
In This Twilight

I'm pretty sure that is the correct setlist.

The band sounded amazing, the visuals were surreal.
'The Warning/Vessel' were really cool to see, the screen is just out of this world... I really gotta do some research on that screen. Loved the new twist to 'Piggy'... he said we were a great crowd, loved the Kanye West comment, another cool thing was the way the band said goodbye during the end of 'In This Twilight'. Ah! all in all amazing show.

I'm ready for my next two shows!

Thanks Trent, the band and Co.

Get some rest!
Master of the Ninth Arch
I was in the second row on the right side near the topleft corner, motherfuckers. Amazing show, much better than the last one I saw, which was also great, and now I'm definitely going to the reschedueled one in Worcester. The Kanye comment had me rolling, and I was really happy to see Trent actually enjoy playing in a festival type setting for once.
Knight of the Royal Axe
The crowd was really laid back at this show. Even still NIN put on a great show. Trent sang his little heart out, which I completely appreciated, but his voice sounded off as the set went on -- it seemed worst during Echoplex. When he spoke to the crowd, you could really tell he's losing his voice. (He sounded worse than he did at Mohegan Sun). I really hope he gives it time to fully recover.

My only complaint about this show was that the festival is set up so poorly. We could hear the music coming from the Dance Tent during all the quieter NIN songs, including Hurt. That really was annoying. I'm sure, though, that the closer you were to the stage, the less of an issue that caused.
innernumb wrote:Oh the last thing Trent said was "Go stop by Kayne (West) he looks a little lonely with everybody over here"
Yeah, don't put that in quotes because that was not exactly what he said. He didn't use the word lonely. TR said something to the effect that everyone should go watch Kanye's set after NIN is done because he felt bad that no one was over there.

Obviously, he was making a funneh because he would have no idea how many people were there or not. Indeed, it seemed like the front area of NIN's stage (in front of VIP area) cleared out after STP and really did not fill back up again.
Bricklayer
Burlesk, your setlist looks pretty spot on, but I think they played one more Ghosts track (31? a heavier rock one) later in the show.

Also, for those interested, I uploaded a few pics to my Flickr account here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aerdman8/s ... 662398755/

Nothing too spectacular. I took a shitload of pics, but the dust kicked up by the masses made my lens pretty worthless.
Master ad Vitam
LEA wrote:My only complaint about this show was that the festival is set up so poorly. We could hear the music coming from the Dance Tent during all the quieter NIN songs, including Hurt. That really was annoying. I'm sure, though, that the closer you were to the stage, the less of an issue that caused.
Nope, I could hear something else during Hurt and I was only a row back from the rail.

Pictures soon!

The setlist above is correct except for another Ghosts song after The Big Come Down.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Yup, that was Ghosts 31.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Show was great! I agree completely about the redneck factor.. And will add in dingy, 16-year old girls that are in dresses and flip flops to that mess. WTF?!?

When speaking, you could especially hear the strain in his voice... Hoping this clears up for him.

I'm still in D.C. until tomorrow but took 2gb of photos and got all of Vessel on video (and a bit of Piggy before getting yelled at by security). Will work on uploading when I get back to LA tomorrow. Stay tuned! :-)

Overall great show though. As expected, they did not disappoint.

P.S. If anyone saw the big NIN logo on the painting wall by the other stage (it had Saran wrap over it), that was my handy-work. ;-)
Bricklayer
_nonentity_ wrote:Show was great! I agree completely about the redneck factor.. And will add in dingy, 16-year old girls that are in dresses and flip flops to that mess. WTF?!?
Indeed. I had one shrieking "TRENT!!!" in my ear all night, even when it was only Josh up there for Echoplex. And not that I condone the groping/clothes ripping of girls that are crowdsurfing, but what the hell were these chicks expecting? Don't crowdsurf while wearing a sundress/skirt unless you want to give strangers a free show. And even then, don't do it; you never know if Daddy's in the audience.
Who's going to Knoxville?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Ok, I know I don't post often....but here are some pics from last night's show, more coming...

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Master of the Ninth Arch
_nonentity_ wrote:And will add in dingy, 16-year old girls that are in dresses and flip flops to that mess. WTF?!?
Yeah, let me add a little something about these annoying little mall-punk wanna be NIN fan cuntbags: Don't fucking go to any NIN show. Ever. There were these two stupid little bitches right next to me who were like "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen, NIN is like, the best , like, band, like, ever. I fell love with them not too long ago blah blah blah, I'm only 5'2, but I'm gonna go get up there and touch Trent blah blah blah, it's my first time seeing him, blah blah blah." Now, I was pretty much at the rail, and there is no fucking way those two idiots were getting anywhere near in front of me or anyone else, because these other two assholes almost came to blows with the dude right beside me for trying to let the two girls up. They were talking to the guys surrounding them, including me, and flirting, giving out numbers, etc... the whole time. When one of them told me I smelled good for the third time, I had just had enough, and I said "Just shut the fuck up and listen, OK? If you're a fan, pay attention to the god damn show." It worked for a while, I guess. But as the show went on, we were all getting more and more compressed, and they both freaked out and had to be pulled out by the security guards because they couldn't handle it any more. Other than the music, that was the highlight of the night. If you're too fucking uncomfortable being THAT close, then stay in the back or fucking stay at home, it's simple.

On a completely different note, did anyone realize that a lot of the guards were total fucking assholes? Like, I was at the rail the whole show, and there were numerous times where people just couldn't handle it anymore, and you know what, that's OK, even in the situation with those two girls, it can be a bit tough at times, but when someone is uncomfortable in that situation, and doesn't feel safe, it should be their job to help them so they can get out of there, not tell them to fuck off, and make them just force their way to the back when they were literally 5 feet away from the front. I just think that is a such a shitty thing to do when people need help. They helped the girls out, obviously, but the guys I saw asking to be taken out received no help whatsoever. That was pretty much my only qualm about the Vfest staff. I wonder if there is someone to complain to about that, because it isn't right.
Bricklayer
this was my first time seeing NIN and it really was incredible. i had no idea that the stage show was as spectacular as it was. the effects during "the greater good" were deffinitely a highlight, like when his lips and the mic came through on the screen. i was just blown away the whole time and i did think the crowd surfing got a little annoying but what else would you expect at the vfest?

the year zero songs were exceptional and terrible lie was just ridiculous. good luck on the rest of the tour guys
Master of the Ninth Arch
Dude, unless your camera has crazy zoom, you were really fucking close to me, rofl.
Master ad Vitam
TheWretched1689 wrote:Dude, unless your camera has crazy zoom, you were really fucking close to me, rofl.
Second row back from the barricade, about three feet to the right of Finck.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Nil Three wrote:
TheWretched1689 wrote:Dude, unless your camera has crazy zoom, you were really fucking close to me, rofl.
Second row back from the barricade, about three feet to the right of Finck.
Second row back from the barricade, about five feet to the left of Finck. Funny. Were you the dude wearing the spiral T-shirt?
Master ad Vitam
TheWretched1689 wrote:
Nil Three wrote:
TheWretched1689 wrote:Dude, unless your camera has crazy zoom, you were really fucking close to me, rofl.
Second row back from the barricade, about three feet to the right of Finck.
Second row back from the barricade, about five feet to the left of Finck. Funny. Were you the dude wearing the spiral T-shirt?
No, I'm short and I was wearing a blue With Teeth t-shirt. I was behind a rather large woman who was on the rail and next to a couple. Were you with a wife/significant other and wearing a PHM shirt, by any chance?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Nil Three wrote:
TheWretched1689 wrote:
Nil Three wrote:
TheWretched1689 wrote:Dude, unless your camera has crazy zoom, you were really fucking close to me, rofl.
Second row back from the barricade, about three feet to the right of Finck.
Second row back from the barricade, about five feet to the left of Finck. Funny. Were you the dude wearing the spiral T-shirt?
No, I'm short and I was wearing a blue With Teeth t-shirt. I was behind a rather large woman who was on the rail and next to a couple. Were you with a wife/significant other and wearing a PHM shirt, by any chance?
Nope, Fragility 99 t-shirt.
Master Traveler
Oh man this show was amazing, i had to admit i was worried about the lighting because in the beginning they really weren't doing much, even for closer which typically always has awesome light showishness. but they really outdid themselves after the set break, i was so psyched they played pinion <3 right before they went on i was talking to my friend saying something to the effect "i really hope they play pinion to start, even if they stop in the middle and restart and play it i dont care"

i was really excited when it actually happened, i've never seen nin do a set change like they did so it was really a treat.

any chance we can get the soundboard recording or something, i'd love to have this show live on my i-tunes :3
Bricklayer
This is a link to a slideshow of pics from the festival but it has a decent amount of NIN action in it.

http://www.villagevoice.com/slideshow/view/115550/22

I linked to that one first because I am in it on the right there...some random woman painted that on me.

Oh, and if the kid I met in the Alice In Chains shirt is reading this, holler at me.

The show was completely awesome. The only issue I had was the brevity of it compared to other shows and the lack of God Given and The Great Destroyer....that and some of the glorious TDS tracks like Heresy, Ruiner, and The Becoming. But I really doubt any of them will show up this tour.
Bricklayer
I am a terrible photographer, so apologies in advance...

We had an interesting view. These are mine and some of my friends pictures from a couple of different cameras and angles. I am trying to collect them all to my tumblr.

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as I go through what we have, I'll put on my tumblr
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Bricklayer
Burlesk wrote:999,999
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I'm pretty sure that is the correct setlist.

Thanks Trent, the band and Co.

Get some rest!
Close:

999,999

1,000,000
Letting you
Discipline
March of the pigs
The frail
Closer
Gave up

The warning
Vessel

Ghosts 1
Ghosts 25
Ghosts 29
Ghosts Piggy

The Greater Good

Wish
Terrible lie
Survivalism
The big come down
Ghosts 31
Only
The hand that feeds
Head like a hole

Echoplex
Hurt
In This Twilight
Master of the Ninth Arch
krg1 wrote:
Burlesk wrote:999,999
(snip)
I'm pretty sure that is the correct setlist.

Thanks Trent, the band and Co.

Get some rest!
Close:

999,999

1,000,000
Letting you
Discipline
March of the pigs
The frail
Closer
Gave up

The warning
Vessel

Ghosts 1
Ghosts 25
Ghosts 29
Ghosts Piggy

The Greater Good

Wish
Terrible lie
Survivalism
The big come down
Ghosts 31
Only
The hand that feeds
Head like a hole

Echoplex
Hurt
In This Twilight
Huh? We have the same setlist.

Pinion was definitely play, I had this older guy next to me who went nuts when pinion started!

Cool anyway.
Bricklayer
Burlesk wrote:
Huh? We have the same setlist.

Pinion was definitely play, I had this older guy next to me who went nuts when pinion started!

Cool anyway.
I think the ghosts were mixed up, but maybe not - anyway - doesn't really matter I guess.

I was able to transcribe the set list directly off of the sheet that was on the mixing board and I think the lighting control cabinet (two mac pros).
Master of the Ninth Arch
I had actually expected them to play The Wretched, which I was really hoping for, since it was on the play list for other shows. :( Maybe next time.
Bricklayer
Forty-eight hours later and my mind is still blown! This was my second time seeing NIN and even with knowing what to expect, I still can't believe I witnessed that level of badass in front of my own eyes.

By far my favorite human moment of the show was during Letting You. One of Robin's pedals (an expression pedal maybe?) was giving him trouble during the bridge and out of nowhere he kicks the fucking thing and it appeared to fly over the edge of the stage (didn't see where it went). He turns around and keeps playing as his guitar tech rushes to plug shit back together. Next thing I see is Robin stomp his effects board and apparently nothing happened because his tech comes back out, picks up the board to check the cables and two seconds later Robin ripped the thing out of his hands and threw it down on the stage. I wish I could have seen the look on that guys face because Robin looked pissed as hell. The ending of the song was epic and angry if I have ever seen it. Where is the video of this?!

Closer took me by surprise when he sang the lyrics to The Only Time during the first part of the breakdown. Been waiting a while for that to happen... Vessel was Fucking Insane! Trent seemed to be feeling it like crazy and I still swear I saw him backhand something off his stand towards the end of the song before he started getting rough on his keyboard. Can anyone else who was up close confirm this?

The Big Come Down was one of the ones I was waiting for, and it didn't disappoint. Sadly though, after the first chorus, the swinging lights visual was no more. Either something or someone fucked up because in its place was a mostly dark stage during its cues. But it didn't matter by the time the orgy of a bridge dropped, and I don't think anyone noticed anyway.

Other highlights included Only, The Greater Good, and Survivalism which sounded a lot better than what I expected; the guitars were turned up! But where the hell was Alessandro during THTF and Echoplex? I could barely hear him. Oh, and Trent had an awesome night despite his recent throat issues. The only time I noticed him struggle was during the chorus of ITT, and if you ask me, I think it was pretty widely assumed it was mic trouble anyway. Otherwise, you couldn't tell he had been sick.

As far as the complaints about the audience, I might as well have been with a complete different crowd than the one described. Sure, there were high schoolers, crowd surfers, and drunk mofos but what the fuck... its a festival. I wouldn't be saying any of this if I hadn't seen as much overall respect towards the band and other people as I did. I never saw any form of pit and everyone around me made sure there was room to be comfortable. The only time I heard inappropriate screaming was during the beginning of The Frail and maybe two brief shouts at the beginning of Hurt before someone told the person to shut up. Nothing but dropped jaws during the amazing Ghosts set and TGG, it was awesome and I was impressed (and lucky) for my first time attending a big festival.

Props to all the cool fans I met: red shirt/red lighter guy, cell phone videographer guy behind me, and the cute girl with the nose ring who scared me with an undercover cop comment after HLAH. :-) It was so loud I couldn't get any names, but I'd share my smoke again anytime people.

Maybe one day I'll see The Becoming live, but until then, this has to be the best show I have ever seen. Thank you to all the people who took the time to post pictures and video, it is greatly appreciated!

And I know it goes without saying but smoking green throughout the set will definitely enhance the experience a hundred fold! Should've been mandatory.
Alright, I'm done here.

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kramertoneman wrote:Robin's guitar wasn't working, so it took 30 seconds or so to get a replacement.. Trent looked furious on the screen, but didn't say anything.
I was wondering what the hell happened there. Trent stood there motionless like a statue hugging the mic stand for a good minute.
_nonentity_ wrote:P.S. If anyone saw the big NIN logo on the painting wall by the other stage (it had Saran wrap over it), that was my handy-work. ;-)
Yes! Very nice. I caught that during the protest of Lil Wayne's entourage.
Master Traveler
Alot of cool comments already for this show I just want to add something.

Right when NIN started about 10 feet back on the left side of the stage there was this bootlegger started filming during the first song. A security guard got pissed he was filming with a quality Sony Camera and started pegging him with watter bottles to get him to stop filming. The bootlegger being annoyed started yelling at the security guard to come over to him and fight him. The security guard was acting all tough, but never hopped over the railing. The security guard got the head security guard who in my opinion is the most intimidating looking guy in the world. All the head security guard did was stare the bootlegger down and he put his camera away. I am pretty sure the head security guard was Trents private bodyguaurd because it looked like the same guy that guards Maynard from Tool/APC. I was at a APC show about 4 years and and i was talking to a security guard there about the same head guard at this show. He was telling me he was Maynards private security guard and had a 7th degree blackbelt and can kill people with any body part including his penis. Anyway, does anyone else know the security guard I am talking about. He is kinds hispanic or hawaiian looking. Is he Trents private bodyguard?
Master of the Ninth Arch
_nonentity_ wrote:My video for Vessel from the V Fest this past Sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8CEcbwII0

This is the only whole song I got as the security guards kept coming over and threatening to take my camera away.

and Piggy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HlU70fVj0Q


Pics coming later...
i was recording too and had two security guards and a festival employee behind me and noone told me anything, i could've recorded the whole thing if my camera hadn't been a bitch, it kept going in and out of focus plus i forgot to put new batteries and had to turn it off mid concert to save for some songs at the end.

great video btw...
Master of the Ninth Arch
tenmilesky wrote:
_nonentity_ wrote:P.S. If anyone saw the big NIN logo on the painting wall by the other stage (it had Saran wrap over it), that was my handy-work. ;-)
Yes! Very nice. I caught that during the protest of Lil Wayne's entourage.
Explain please, lol.
Master of the Ninth Arch
TheWretched1689 wrote:
tenmilesky wrote:
_nonentity_ wrote:P.S. If anyone saw the big NIN logo on the painting wall by the other stage (it had Saran wrap over it), that was my handy-work. ;-)
Yes! Very nice. I caught that during the protest of Lil Wayne's entourage.
Explain please, What what in da butt.

There were two large "community art walls" in which people were given paint and could just paint whatever. Was fairly cool. There was a lull in the day and I was bored so I went over there, saw a Paramore logo and got a little more motivated and "fixed" the wall. (I'm a middle school teacher and my students play that crap all the time, so it was quite lovely to paint over it.)

Starting to paint:
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Finished product:
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And if you meant explain the Lil Wayne protest, from what I was told by one of the guards (I was in NIN wait mode at that point), he went on WAY late and his little crew just went out on stage and pissed the crowd off even more. :P
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Knight of the Royal Axe
i cried during Hurt and ITT! LOL

so glad Hoegaarden has gone mainstream!
Master of the Ninth Arch
_nonentity_ wrote:
TheWretched1689 wrote:
tenmilesky wrote:
_nonentity_ wrote:P.S. If anyone saw the big NIN logo on the painting wall by the other stage (it had Saran wrap over it), that was my handy-work. ;-)
Yes! Very nice. I caught that during the protest of Lil Wayne's entourage.
Explain please, What what in da butt.

There were two large "community art walls" in which people were given paint and could just paint whatever. Was fairly cool. There was a lull in the day and I was bored so I went over there, saw a Paramore logo and got a little more motivated and "fixed" the wall. (I'm a middle school teacher and my students play that crap all the time, so it was quite lovely to paint over it.)

Starting to paint:
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Finished product:
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And if you meant explain the Lil Wayne protest, from what I was told by one of the guards (I was in NIN wait mode at that point), he went on WAY late and his little crew just went out on stage and pissed the crowd off even more. :P
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Knight of the Royal Axe
anyone else catch Leviathant's txt?
Site Admin
That was probably my dad, I wasn't able to make it down to the show. Heehee.
Master ad Vitam
Was anyone else surprised by how good STP were? I'd heard bad things about this tour, aynd I didn't have a lot of hope after they came on 20-min late, but they took a bunch of songs I don't even like that much and put on a damn good show. Scott Weiland was functional, which was a fucking shocker. We were joking before the show that the reason for the delay was probably just that they couldn't find him. We'd actually planned to see Dylan, but we moved up all the way to the second row during Iggy's set and didn't want to lose our spot for Nails.

Iggy was the motherfucking beast. Holy crap, that dude had more energy than pretty much the rest of the bill combined, and he's in crazy good shape for his age.

We ditched Paramore for She and Him - best call of the day.

There was more weed in the dance tent than backstage at a Kottonmouth Kings concert.

Black Rebel Motorcycle club were lots of fun.

I'd heard good things about Shudder to Think, but I wasn't really impressed. A dude in the row behind me yelled out to a roadie for a setlist and actually got one.
Master ad Vitam
I find it amazing how varied people's experience of the audience is at each show. i think it just shows that when we're all packed in tight, one doesn't really know much about what's going on beyond the people in your immediate vicinity.

I couldn't really comment on STP's performance, since I spent most of their set fighting to keep my place one row back from the rail. Biiiig guy and his even bigger friend tried everything they could to get the security guards to take me out so they could have my spot. God I don't know if I've ever personally met a bigger asshole. He shouted obscenities at me, threatened me, told the guards I was sick and needed to be taken out, it went on and on. Right after NIN started I finally managed to move over a bit and 2 gentlemen who'd been watching all this let me in at the rail. So I managed to get front and centre and had a great time. Ironically, those 2 big guys ended up protecting me from the constant crowd surfers and i never felt any pushing, they took it all. Weird experience.

They played 25 Ghosts! Yeah! That's the one I used for my film.

So what's with Alessandro not acknowledging the crowd's good wishes when he exits during ITT? He ignored us in Toronto too.
Master of the Ninth Arch
K'sandra wrote:
So what's with Alessandro not acknowledging the crowd's good wishes when he exits during ITT? He ignored us in Toronto too.
It's cause he's just that cool. He has always been the soft spoken, non-attention drawing one, anyway.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Ok! Got all my photos uploaded, finally...

Here's a few of my favorites (they're not this small on Flickr, I just put in smaller ones here to ease the loading on computers):

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Here is the link to the whole Flickr album (39 photos total):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capital_m/ ... 722290921/

Also, there are other albums in there with photos from the rest of the festival if you are interested. :)
Day 1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/capital_m/ ... 711310460/
Day 2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/capital_m/ ... 711581790/
STP: http://www.flickr.com/photos/capital_m/ ... 711704764/
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Master ad Vitam
I can see myself in one of the pics Rob put on flickr. Nice.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Yeah, the shot from HLAH, I can actually see myself and the friends I was with, rofl.
Master ad Vitam
Nil Three wrote:I can see myself in one of the pics Rob put on flickr. Nice.
Me too! There are three that could potentially have me in them, but I seem to be behind a security guard in one, and leaning back in the other. So none are really great.



FANTASTIC pix nonentity! I was right at the rail, but no camera :(
Thanks for sharing.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I'm sure everyone already knows this from listening to the boot but ghosts 29 wasn't played, ghosts 19 was
Bricklayer
NotinCnStopMeNow wrote:I'm sure everyone already knows this from listening to the boot but ghosts 29 wasn't played, ghosts 19 was
At the risk of looking like a total ass, where is said boot?