
Don't forget the sun-dried tomatoes.
2008/08/23 - Auburn Hills, MI [Palace of Auburn Hills]

Q F T - that was a headache and a half, glad i had some advilPep wrote:He said a nice little speech about 'supporting' A Place To Bury Strangers but that he didn't care if we stole his stuff. Heh.
(Personally the strobe lights made me wish they left faster...
it went on forever.)
Yeah, I got a lot more crowd surfers than last show.velvetrevolution wrote:It was amazing - and my first NIN show. He said a nice bit at the end about how, in the early days of playing clubs, it was "a treat" to come to Detroit [sic], because the crowd was always so wild.
Yes - it went much smoother in Cleveland, we got our tickets an hour earlier and were separated into a nice line. Here everyone was sort of huddled and it was making me nervous because there was some 'unfair' cutting going on. People get there early for a reason...Clocksrun wrote: - NIN must let venues know what's up way in advance...somehow. However it's possible, 'cause it's vital to the pre-sale purpose.
- Grown adults need to be retaught the concept of a (FAIR) line.
Rob took a video on his iPhone right front and center where we were on rail, hope that gets out!
I envy you forever.Clocksrun wrote: - Tambourine: caught it during Head Down (thaaaat was me, Pep!).
I had a bad time being on the main floor. I was surrounded by bouncing 14 year old girls who only stop long enough to take a few flash pictures and like to scream the lyrics or guys who walk through the crowd shoving everyone aside. Too many dumb kids who don't understand the concept of personal space. I'm so glad that NIN is the only band I like with enough popularity to play a giant venue like the Palace or Pine Knob. I hate seeing bands at these places. They really need to play in Detroit again. At least at Joe Louis Arena you can WALK to the show instead of paying $15 for parking.solareyes wrote:Hard to put into words why, but tonights shows was overall better than last night. Crowd was more energetic, and HEAPS younger.. with youth on your side makes it makes it more rowdy?


FuzzyDunlop wrote:
oh and in case you were wondering, i was sitting right next to the girl who shouted "i love you trent" TWICE during hurt. because once just wasnt enough.
i mean, im sure a ton of girls shouted that, but you MUST have heard this girl because her screams were louder than the music. im expeeriencing some hearing loss in my right ear currently.
I compared my recording of Head Down with RJonik's recording. They are nearly identical in sound quality and audience noise, very nice. However, I am missing part of 2 songs so his may be more complete.RJonik wrote:this show was the best I have ever been to. It was way better than Cleveland the night before. here is my clip of my tape from the show.
Detroit:
http://www.detroit-recordings.com/nindetrec.mp3
Cleveland:
http://www.detroit-recordings.com/nincleverec1.mp3
chelchik wrote:First time I've ever had to have my big bootie pulled off the rail.
Fantastic show, really enjoyed having such a crowd that was into it like that. (though I feel very old now since I couldn't hang the whole show! First time in almost 20 years!)
I was slightly right of Trent.
Really appreciate the great folks around me that tried to work as a team.
Many thanks to Trent and Co. for another fantastic performance.
Once I was pulled out by JT (holy hell he is strong, I'm a big girl and he pulled me out like I weighed 99lbs! Super appreciative of him and his attention to what is going on during the show. He's fantastic) I went up to the second level and I wish I had a picture of what the floor looked like. It was packed solid up to, if not past, the sound area. Mosh pits through out, crowd surfers starting from the fucking back! I swear, it almost reminded...almost, of 1994.
Great show.
Viva La Trent!!!
See ya'll in Toledo. I'll totally be by the sound area for that one.
Really enjoyed the opening band.
Michigan is the land of construction and orange barrels!
Yeah, my friend Kevin was the one who told you about it. After he told you, he repositioned himself directly between you and that guy. I ended up being ejected after a few songs, but Kevin told me that after the guy shoved for a few songs and failed to get past him, he turned around and clocked him. He just kinda disappeared after that.Clocksrun wrote:- Personal threats to me on rail before NIN (seriously, wtF?). Apparently I made a bullseye with my new haircut.
Thanks guy, but could you please use a torrent site that isn't retarded? Thank you much!gladcarrot wrote:Good morning Motor City Nails fans. Last Nights performance. A 6 hour turnaround time; a new world record?
Nine Inch Nails
August 23, 2008
The Palace of Auburn Hills
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=211230
I will upload the A Place to Bury Strangers show tomorrow.
Wow...clocked him?! Please give my sincere thanks to Kevin then. After he told me some dudes wanted at me, as if I wasn't already anxious enough up there, I was really upset. In a sense I'm happy the crowd in center GA was as brutal as it was last night, 'cause even if someone wanted to get at me purposely, it's pretty much impossible unless you're the size of J.T. from NIN camp or you just get lucky. But now I've decided I'm officially not doing rail at Toledo, as much as it pains me to say ('cause that show is going to be small), all I have to do is breath to feel the pain alongside my entire chest from last night.pdusen wrote:Yeah, my friend Kevin was the one who told you about it. After he told you, he repositioned himself directly between you and that guy. I ended up being ejected after a few songs, but Kevin told me that after the guy shoved for a few songs and failed to get past him, he turned around and clocked him. He just kinda disappeared after that.Clocksrun wrote:- Personal threats to me on rail before NIN (seriously, wtF?). Apparently I made a bullseye with my new haircut.
"Asshole with the flashlight" I think. That was an awkward moment... I didn't like seeing what was going on before NIN was ready to show it.waffel wrote:- Now I trying to remeber the best I can ,but I do think Trent said these things: "wow guy with the flashlight"
I love you!gladcarrot wrote:Soon...
I think I was one of those two girls! Thanks for the protection! I still had to get lifted out around Discipline because of all the 300 pound douchebags that think its a good idea to elbow and push their way in front of everyone constantly. I couldn't breath half of the time!eron wrote:Instead of C and Ping the entire note I wrote, I'll just link to the Facebook note: http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php#/n ... 503442&id=
I was pretty much right in front of Trent, maybe a bit to the left, about 4-5 people back. I was sort of protecting two girls for most of the set. Someone also decided to punch me in the back, which I thought was a little retarded. Otherwise, I've never experienced that before, being so close, and it was incredible.
Now I'm supposed to do some modelling thing in a few hours. Oi.
gladcarrot wrote:Good morning Motor City Nails fans. Last Nights performance. A 6 hour turnaround time; a new world record?
Nine Inch Nails
August 23, 2008
The Palace of Auburn Hills
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=211230
I will upload the A Place to Bury Strangers show tomorrow.
Thanks carrot, but I agree...can't you put it on TPB or nintorrents? Give the rest of us a chance to hear it! Dime = fail. (Not saying I don't appreciate your efforts, because I think I speak for all of us when I say THANK YOU - YOU ROCK!pdusen wrote: Thanks guy, but could you please use a torrent site that isn't retarded? Thank you much!
Dime is the best torrent site out there!iMatt wrote:gladcarrot wrote:Good morning Motor City Nails fans. Last Nights performance. A 6 hour turnaround time; a new world record?
Nine Inch Nails
August 23, 2008
The Palace of Auburn Hills
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=211230
I will upload the A Place to Bury Strangers show tomorrow.pdusen wrote: Thanks guy, but could you please use a torrent site that isn't retarded? Thank you much!
Thanks carrot, but I agree...can't you put it on TPB or nintorrents? Give the rest of us a chance to hear it! Dime = fail. (Not saying I don't appreciate your efforts, because I think I speak for all of us when I say THANK YOU - YOU ROCK!
Hey man, thanks for moving to that luxury box. My girlfriend and I moved over into your seats, and moving two seats to the right really made a lot of difference. The view from your seats was actually pretty damn good. Were you the guy with the blue hair or the other one? Either way, it was nice talking to you.SetecX wrote:Ok so this was my 3rd NIN show and the best of the bunch so far. I wont have much to say that hasnt been said 1000 times already. The lights and the effects as expected were pretty intense and insane.
My pre-sale seats were to the left of the stage right at the front rail so if I looked straight ahead I would see down the rail and the first row of people, etc. I was worried that it would be a bit of a sharp angle and I wouldnt be able to experience the light show properly.
During APTBS I found out I could go into a luxury box so I moved up there. Free beer and food and a better angle. APTBS I thought were good but the incessant lights were a bit much.
Glad I got to hear The Wretched. Robin Finck is badass. Overall great show. However, I think I like Tool better live.
So here are the pics I took via the luxury box http://www.flickr.com/photos/setecx/set ... 922671538/ Going to the Toledo show tomorrow and will post back with the pics from that.
SetecX wrote:Ok so this was my 3rd NIN show and the best of the bunch so far. I wont have much to say that hasnt been said 1000 times already. The lights and the effects as expected were pretty intense and insane.
My pre-sale seats were to the left of the stage right at the front rail so if I looked straight ahead I would see down the rail and the first row of people, etc. I was worried that it would be a bit of a sharp angle and I wouldnt be able to experience the light show properly.
During APTBS I found out I could go into a luxury box so I moved up there. Free beer and food and a better angle. APTBS I thought were good but the incessant lights were a bit much.
Glad I got to hear The Wretched. Robin Finck is badass. Overall great show. However, I think I like Tool better live.
So here are the pics I took via the luxury box http://www.flickr.com/photos/setecx/set ... 922671538/ Going to the Toledo show tomorrow and will post back with the pics from that.
No, I'm pretty sure it was just some asshole in the crowd. I didn't see the flashlight shine on the crowd, at all ... only on the screen, all over the screen. Somebody in the nin.com forum said they were sitting next to the asshole with the flashlight.Pep wrote:Hehe, the guy with the flashlight was a security
guard. He was shining it on people in the crowd in the beginning,
Trent looked right at him when he said it.
There were a few girls that me and another guy helped out. There were people behind us who kept trying to push the girls out of their way. It's nice to see a few decent people are around.Bronwyn wrote:I think I was one of those two girls! Thanks for the protection! I still had to get lifted out around Discipline because of all the 300 pound douchebags that think its a good idea to elbow and push their way in front of everyone constantly. I couldn't breath half of the time!
Oh, well then there were two people with flashlights!allegro wrote:No, I'm pretty sure it was just some asshole in the crowd. I didn't see the flashlight shine on the crowd, at all ... only on the screen, all over the screen. Somebody in the nin.com forum said they were sitting next to the asshole with the flashlight.Pep wrote:Hehe, the guy with the flashlight was a security
guard. He was shining it on people in the crowd in the beginning,
Trent looked right at him when he said it.
Gotta say, the asshole factor was WAY higher at this suburban Detroit show than at the Lollapalooza show.
Nice to hear somebody got it all (or almost all) on video! Can't wait for it... Very cool of you, Berlamont.berlamont wrote:I got audio and video of most of the show, but I was running late and got there in the middle of 1,000,000. The audio is good to great, and the video is ok to real good at times (I used the fine setting for a couple songs but I was holding the cam way above my head the whole time and was in the pit for a while so...) So it took 3gb of mem sticks and they ended up full right as the battery died at the beginning of in this twilight unfortunately . I'll try and clean it up a bit and get it on tpb or demon like i said in the other thread as soon as I can.


Well, here they are. Dunno how many other people got this kind of stuff, but cheers to Clocksrun (you got the tambourine, right?)Finneus J wrote:I had an absolutely great night, my friend and I actually ended up with Josh's drumsticks and Trent's personal picks (pics later, once I get over the shock).

dude im still in shock... i cant believe josh and trent personaly had one of the guys give us that stuff... kick ass show too =]Finneus J wrote:I had an absolutely great night, my friend and I actually ended up with Josh's drumsticks and Trent's personal picks (pics later, once I get over the shock).
EDIT: Can somebody please put that torrent on some other tracker? Dime is too full to even sign up.
Nope! You were wonderful, sorry if you hadmerlyntemple wrote:I was the girl right behind you, Pep, and I hope I wasn't hurting you and your friend too badly.
Thanks, yesh :] I was both blessed and cursed with it. I had heard of the rather ugly fight for it from another show, so as soon the grabbing for it was over, I tied that sucker to my wrist with my girlfriend's hair tie and luckily held out for the whole show right there at rail. After the show I fled the venue with it under my shirt as discretely as possible... jingle, jingleFinneus J wrote:...but cheers to Clocksrun (you got the tambourine, right?)
Didn't go to Lolla, but yuuuup.allegro wrote:Gotta say, the asshole factor was WAY higher at this suburban Detroit show than at the Lollapalooza show.
I was there with Finneus and yearzero2022. Honestly, they didn't have to do anything to get the drumsticks and picks....They just happened to be the youngest and smallest kids standing in the front row, and the band saw them. Actually, I didn't see any other kids close to their age there, or at least not anywhere near us. By far the best 13th birthday present a kid could get!!!pep wrote:(He had them personally give it to you? What did you do to him???
Haha)
Nope, no trouble seeing over you at all! I was actually looking over Ciao most of the time as my head was kind of perfectly above hers. It worked out well. I felt really bad for the shorter girl standing to my right as her neck must have really hurt afterwards from holding her head up the way she was, but she was a real trooper. Can't wait to see your pics! I did get a semi-decent one of A Place to Bury Strangers. I don't know why none of my NIN ones turned out quite as well.Pep wrote:Nope! You were wonderful, sorry if you hadmerlyntemple wrote:I was the girl right behind you, Pep, and I hope I wasn't hurting you and your friend too badly.
trouble seeing over me!
I will post pictures when I get them back from
Ciao, she took the cameras in today.
She said there were some pretty good ones, I can't wait to
see them...
(He had them personally give it to you? What did you do to him???
Haha)
haha thats great. glad our seats were somehow better for you. I was the other guy, the blue haired kid is my brother. The box was pretty sweet and it was worth it for the private bathroom alone haha. It was a mid level suite 1 section over from where we were so it had a better viewing angle. Maybe I will see you at the Grand Rapids show in Nov.Dallas wrote:Hey man, thanks for moving to that luxury box. My girlfriend and I moved over into your seats, and moving two seats to the right really made a lot of difference. The view from your seats was actually pretty damn good. Were you the guy with the blue hair or the other one? Either way, it was nice talking to you.SetecX wrote:Ok so this was my 3rd NIN show and the best of the bunch so far. I wont have much to say that hasnt been said 1000 times already. The lights and the effects as expected were pretty intense and insane.
My pre-sale seats were to the left of the stage right at the front rail so if I looked straight ahead I would see down the rail and the first row of people, etc. I was worried that it would be a bit of a sharp angle and I wouldnt be able to experience the light show properly.
During APTBS I found out I could go into a luxury box so I moved up there. Free beer and food and a better angle. APTBS I thought were good but the incessant lights were a bit much.
Glad I got to hear The Wretched. Robin Finck is badass. Overall great show. However, I think I like Tool better live.
So here are the pics I took via the luxury box http://www.flickr.com/photos/setecx/set ... 922671538/ Going to the Toledo show tomorrow and will post back with the pics from that.
The show was awesome. I actually really like APTBS. I think that their kind of show might work better in a smaller club setting, but I got what they were trying to do. The lights did get to be a bit much at some points, but other than that I thought they were really good.
NIN kicked all sorts of ass. Glad we got the Wretched, a little disappointed that there was no Reptile, but all around it was an awesome show. The band seemed to be enjoying themselves and Trent seemed pleased with the crowd. Also, it was my girlfriend's first NIN show and she loved it. I think her favorite part might have been Trent's scruff, but still. She enjoyed it, and is now willing to make the trip to Grand Rapids in November to see them again.
This was my 3rd time seeing NIN, and I'd have to say it was the best of the three. Robin and JMJ were awesome, and I hope they both stick around for a while.
Not much else to say that hasn't already been said, I guess.
I put it up on nintorrents. Go there if you want it.Docah wrote:I had a great time there as well. First time at a NIN show.
Hopefully the recordings leak off dime over time, i don't know anyone with an account there.
Row BB? I was right next to you guys, talked to your brother before you guys went up. Had my hair in the ponytail.SetecX wrote: haha thats great. glad our seats were somehow better for you. I was the other guy, the blue haired kid is my brother. The box was pretty sweet and it was worth it for the private bathroom alone haha. It was a mid level suite 1 section over from where we were so it had a better viewing angle. Maybe I will see you at the Grand Rapids show in Nov.
To the guy that asked how we got in the box, it was actually Comcast's box and we knew people in there and they invited us up.
Tell Kevin he's an awesome guy, he restored a little of my faith in humanity. I was right behind him until he moved to the right (yellow glasses). I'm the one who yelled at one of the assholes to get the fuck back early in the show.pdusen wrote:Yeah, my friend Kevin was the one who told you about it. After he told you, he repositioned himself directly between you and that guy. I ended up being ejected after a few songs, but Kevin told me that after the guy shoved for a few songs and failed to get past him, he turned around and clocked him. He just kinda disappeared after that.
Did you have a purple shirt on that said something like, "If Jesus Returned Would He Be American?"eron wrote:I was pretty much right in front of Trent, maybe a bit to the left, about 4-5 people back. I was sort of protecting two girls for most of the set. Someone also decided to punch me in the back, which I thought was a little retarded.
He is indeed a wise man.Megavolt wrote:Sec 112 row AA first row perfect view of the sage.
Thank you and especially thank you gladcarrot.Anonymous wrote:I put it up on nintorrents. Go there if you want it.
-Duck!
Haha, I think I remember, you were the guy behind me to my right, yes? I was the dude who had to be lifted out during Discipline. Never been in a crowd like that before >_>yutt wrote:Tell Kevin he's an awesome guy, he restored a little of my faith in humanity. I was right behind him until he moved to the right (yellow glasses). I'm the one who yelled at one of the assholes to get the fuck back early in the show.pdusen wrote:Yeah, my friend Kevin was the one who told you about it. After he told you, he repositioned himself directly between you and that guy. I ended up being ejected after a few songs, but Kevin told me that after the guy shoved for a few songs and failed to get past him, he turned around and clocked him. He just kinda disappeared after that.
The guy literally threw my little brother into me and I snapped. >_<
quoted for truth.jake444/4 wrote:great show. great time. 1st nin concert and I loved it.
have people been getting this stuff by waiting by the stage after the show or just by catching them in the crowd?Finneus J wrote: Well, here they are. Dunno how many other people got this kind of stuff, but cheers to Clocksrun (you got the tambourine, right?)
The drumsticks say Josh Freese's on them, and the bottom left pick was just a random one they gave out, while the other two were Trent's.
No, Trent and Josh (according to the guy who gave them to us) had them personally delivered to my friend and I after In This Twilight. You just have to be lucky I guess...Toadflax wrote:have people been getting this stuff by waiting by the stage after the show or just by catching them in the crowd?Finneus J wrote: Well, here they are. Dunno how many other people got this kind of stuff, but cheers to Clocksrun (you got the tambourine, right?)
The drumsticks say Josh Freese's on them, and the bottom left pick was just a random one they gave out, while the other two were Trent's.

I have all my photos up now, sorry, I used facebook because a lot of my friends from school wanted to see them... and i'll try to have my videos of 'The Wretched', 'The Greater Good', 'The Big Come Down', and 'Trent's speech' up on Youtube soon.hybridreplicate wrote:she_shines92, i was by you all during the show. I have your email to get the pictures!

i took more pics of my stuff that i got while we were thereFinneus J wrote:I thought these pics were pretty cool (sorry, the date on my camera was wrong, so don't think I took these in Baltimore)
I love this one:
Well, here they are. Dunno how many other people got this kind of stuff, but cheers to Clocksrun (you got the tambourine, right?)Finneus J wrote:I had an absolutely great night, my friend and I actually ended up with Josh's drumsticks and Trent's personal picks (pics later, once I get over the shock).
The drumsticks say Josh Freese's on them, and the bottom left pick was just a random one they gave out, while the other two were Trent's.








I wasn't at Cleveland, so I can't compare to that, but I was really disappointed in this crowd and venue. It wasn't my typical hometown Detroit crowd from when I grew up. I'd never been to the Palace, before, and while it seems to be a very nice venue (the Caesar salad at Caesars was actually pretty decent), it lacked soul. I was surrounded by lifeless people, stupid people, people poking fun at goths, people so shitfaced it's a wonder they remembered why they were there, people talking and bitching during the Ghosts material (that didn't happen at Lolla), and a ton of genuine suburban YAHOOS.Ultimate Matt X wrote:I definitely agree that the crowd was livelier than Cleveland
Ah, okay, that's what I was wondering. Thanks. I had a sneaking suspicion I was in for an evening of dicky-ness when I pulled into the Palace parking lot and saw all the beer-swilling tailgate parties with people blasting Kid Rock.Edward Hyena wrote:I would say that this is the most well behaved I've ever seen a crowd at a Palace Entertainment venue, not counting Trans-Siberian Orchestra which isn't even in the same class. For some reason people always seem to be drunk / dicks at DTE Theatre and The Palace.
Was it a Christmas show?Edward Hyena wrote:Trans-Siberian Orchestra
I hope to god you weren't the guy standing next to me singing "Hurt," completely tone-deaf, with completely wrong lyrics.Edward Hyena wrote:If anyone saw a quiet guy in a Gigantour shirt kinda hanging towards the back, that was me.
Good idea!Edward Hyena wrote:As for that "What Would Kirk Do" guy, he was back by me in the crowd for all of five seconds. That dude was PLASTERED, so I got away quick.
Shit I know who you were talking about, she came by my little group, when the openers were coming on, wanted her to go away pronto.allegro wrote:Good idea!Edward Hyena wrote:As for that "What Would Kirk Do" guy, he was back by me in the crowd for all of five seconds. That dude was PLASTERED, so I got away quick.
During the "Ghosts" stuff, some REALLY DRUNK amazon chick (I'm talking 6'2, long dark hair, wearing a short Catholic school plaid skirt) came up to the chick standing next to me, and she started talking LOUDLY ...
"OH MY GOD, I'M SO FUCKING WASTED! But that FUCKER upstairs took my fucking ID! And I was gonna go to the BAR after this! And I *ALREADY* look like I'm fucking TWELVE." (I was thinking, "I hope you ain't driving!")
Then she stumbled around with a cigarette and I thought for sure she was gonna go over like a tree. Thank god she went away right after that, I think even her "friend" was relieved. We couldn't hear anything except HER.
i deliberately stayed way back at both shows i've seen, so i could see all this lighting stuff. but that clip makes me miss being up front, where it's like a crazy fun roller coaster ride in hell.Clocksrun wrote:This kinda captures the intensity of the rail area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCr_VbGis-E
Megaupload or nintorrents.com (if you want to seed it for a while that is)grandmastertimX wrote:Hey my buddy recorded "The Warning" and the part at the beginning where Trent goes "Asshole with the flashlight, whoa!" where's the best place to upload it for ya'll?
it wasn't, same deal happened in stl. it's called a show.uroboros wrote:I think the 7 min strobe was a tech problem. He destroyed his guitar and had to hook up another one to finsih out the song. Hence a visual mindfuck.
yeah the one in the back with the buttons. i got a picture with him aparantley... some dude came up and like ambushed me and made me go over and talk to him/them, and grabbed my phone and took a picture. he was cool though, smoked a cig with him, i unfortunately missed their set but told them they did a good job, blah blah. he said at all the check points the cops bring dogs out to sniff the busses, so its hard to smugggle their weed. i guess the last tour they were on (i dont remember with who) they got busted or something. so every town they go to they look for a hook up. whenever i meet people in bands something random always happens it seems like.Clocksrun wrote:^ Haha... Were any of them the two guys on the left in this image?
Clocksrun wrote: - Tambourine: caught it during Head Down (thaaaat was me, Pep!).
- The show was amazing (set list/energy), but rough as hell. I am beat to shreds.
- I am never going back to Michigan unless there's no other route around it. I say this past the ridiculous fact about the general driving/construction/detours... I can't ever seem to find anything good about this state. Sorry, all you good folks from there.
During HEAD DOWN, I caught the tambourine straight on (I was the first to catch it) and then got into a slight tug-of-war with a girl on my left and a guy on my right, and you are not that guy. Nobody behind me or anywhere else was involved. Watch your mouth, 'cause you're clearly confused with the second or third tambourine that was thrown out.pretyh8machine99 wrote:yeah fuck you guy, you didnt catch the tambourine! i did! then you fucking railed me in the temple and took it from me, youre an asshole, stay in whatever piece of shit state you came from and stay the hell out of michiganClocksrun wrote: - Tambourine: caught it during Head Down (thaaaat was me, Pep!).
- The show was amazing (set list/energy), but rough as hell. I am beat to shreds.
- I am never going back to Michigan unless there's no other route around it. I say this past the ridiculous fact about the general driving/construction/detours... I can't ever seem to find anything good about this state. Sorry, all you good folks from there.
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Any update on this, berlamont?berlamont wrote:I got audio and video of most of the show, but I was running late and got there in the middle of 1,000,000. The audio is good to great, and the video is ok to real good at times (I used the fine setting for a couple songs but I was holding the cam way above my head the whole time and was in the pit for a while so...) So it took 3gb of mem sticks and they ended up full right as the battery died at the beginning of in this twilight unfortunately . I'll try and clean it up a bit and get it on tpb or demon like i said in the other thread as soon as I can.