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2008/08/27 - East Rutherford, NJ [Izod Center]

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2008-08-27 Show date
Izod Center Venue
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2008/08/27 - East Rutherford, NJ [Izod Center]
Sorry, lots of us are packing or being cam whores.

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Bricklayer
1. 999,999 [Intro]
2. 1,000,000
3. Letting You
4. Discipline
5. March Of The Pigs
6. Head Down
7. The Frail
8. Reptile
9. Closer [The Only Time Breakdown]
10. Gave Up
11. The Warning
12. Vessel
13. Ghosts 5
14. Ghosts 17
15. Ghosts 19
16. Piggy [Ghosts]
17. The Greater Good
18. Pinion [Interlude]
19. Wish
20. Terrible Lie
21. Survivalism
22. The Big Come Down
23. Ghosts 31
24. Only
25. The Hand That Feeds
26. Head Like A Hole
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27. Echoplex
28. God Given
29. The Good Soldier
30. Hurt
31. In This Twilight
Master Traveler
The show was fucking brilliant. I think I'm in shock for how awesome it was.

Setlist:
Edit: Snake beat me to it.

I have a bunch of pictures and a video of echoplex/speech/beginning of god given. Gunna upload soon.

-CEJ
Grand Pontiff
Amazing show!!! Just about everything I could of hoped for

edit: someone beat me to the setlist



My thoughts: The slip songs sounded pretty good but the show didn't really take off until March of the Pigs, the debut of The Frail/Reptile for this tour at least, I was disappointed that they didn't play the Wretched but Reptile more than made up for it, would of loved to hear Meet Your Master because I think it would of been 20 times better than the Good Soldier and was also very sad not to hear the Great Destroyer, but they can't play everything you exactly want to hear so maybe I'll make my way down to philly
Grand Pontiff
Am I the only one who thinks Help Me I am in Hell sounds just like 17 Ghosts 2
Bricklayer
set list is looking better but encores are still weak imo
Master of the Ninth Arch
Awesome show! So much better than Mohegan Sun! Trent came out with so much energy and looked and sounded like he was having an awesome time! Trent said that he felt like talking tonight and said that he had been looking forward to tonight's show and that it meant alot that the songs that he wrote for himself mean something to us too. He also mentioned that he is very proud of this show and can't wait to blow our fucking minds! He thanked band and crew for putting it all together and putting up with him.
The night started out so fun, looking for a ? with grafxdesin, we didn't find it, but we saw an AWESOME show tonight! Very nice meeting you, Papalogash and your friend.
grafxdesin you are my NIN partner for life!
Bricklayer
It's going to take some time to process all this. I've been on my feet for almost 7 hours.

It was an amazing show. I've been to a lot of shows in my time, but this one, I believe, tops them. It doesn't beat the best TIME I had at a show, that goes to Maiden with friends years ago, but the show itself was badass.

I was in front and to the right of the soundboard in rear GA. A small mosh pit formed a few times. Nobody was hurt.

Met Reptileseven and scaredsqee from here. R7 I met briefly to buy her GA tix (thanks a million!) and scaredsquee bought my Section 127 ticket. Squee was great to talk to.

And if Steve and Dana are reading this, /wave. I hope Dana wasn't too bruised.

I have pics and vids, but it's just too late to post them now. I'll do it all tomorrow.
Grand Pontiff
Yea I looked through plenty of Mens Rooms and found nothing
Bricklayer
Something in the air tonight...Trent was on fire...the croud was on fire...great show! 4th NIN show and best so far!! Trent did a lot of talking and said how the fans appreciating his music makes his day! Was one of the few people to look for the mistery ? today but it was fun anyway and meet some great people! Reptile...nough said!!! I'm tired and going to bed!
Bluefish22 Any NIN concert you know I am thier with you!!
Grand Pontiff
AWESOME SHOW TRENT!!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR PHILLY!

THIS SHOW WAS AMAZING!!!!! My first show....WOW.

so many great and notable things from tonight. place seemed to be completely filled up by the time NIN were well into their performance (excluding the upper deck).

Does It Offend You, Yeah? weren't too bad really. there were 2 or 3 songs i rather enjoyed by em.

Then nin went on and kicked off the show. it's amazing....31 songs....2 hours and 10 minutes was the length of the show. Trent gave a terrific little speech....and they were wonderfull/meaninfull words. i love the band...everybody was amazing tonight. Josh has to be the best drummer i've ever seen. JMJ was awesome...Alessandro looked terrific..Robin was amazing. At one point during Survivalism i think...robin threw his water bottle into the front of the crowd and the chicks swapped at it and didn't catch it. so he went back right away and threw another bottle at the same girls in a slower/more laughable tone and they caught it. love Robin!

The setlist was terrific. after the frail..i was hoping for the wretched...if not, i was well prepaired to Closer....BAM...Reptile...that was a surprise!

Crowd was terrific. Not much screaming during Hurt etc...

the only bad thing i saw was these 3 HUGE muscular bald guys in the left part of the pit...they were literally going COMPLETELY BERZERK...pushing, punching...from the seats..i literally saw a big hole in the GA were these three large bald guys were going at it...and destroying everyone around them. The entire show i felt sorry for everyone even near them...couldn't security do something about them?

all in all....this was an experience i'll NEVER forget!!!! AMAZING!
Master of the Ninth Arch
bryan987 wrote:set list is looking better but encores are still weak imo
Nonsense. The Encore was fucking brilliant. Tough to explain unless you experience it.

'In This Twilight' really is a nice way to close it out.

It's amazing that after all these years 'Hurt' still carries so much emotion live.

Josh Freese's drums are still ringing in my ears.

Will write more tomorrow, but it was a GREAT show.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Awesome show. Just wow. Spent before the show wondering what the IR Camera was doing on the stage looking at me. Then discovered I was on the screen for Survivalism. It was nice that Trent actually was looking forward to this show. It really makes me feel good to know he thinks playing in this area is special.

Amazing set list. I have a TON of pictures and videos. I'll upload them as soon as possible. God I hope for some bootleg goodies.

Also.....anyone have any information about why there were so many video cameras and crews recording songs? One of the security guards told me MTV was having a special and was grabbing some footage. Which is fucking sweet if true!

Edit: Some Video Clips Up.

http://www.vimeo.com/1616660 - 19 Ghosts III
http://www.vimeo.com/1616750 - In This Twilight
http://www.vimeo.com/1616829 - Trent's First Speech
http://www.vimeo.com/1616862 - Trent's Second Speech
http://www.vimeo.com/1616908 - Vessel

A bunch more clips are up on my vimeo profile:
http://www.vimeo.com/user659236

Pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58524167@N ... 001958227/
Bricklayer
My "premium" seats were in Section 120 seats 3 & 4. My wife & I were not pleased when we saw our side obstructed view. We saw them in Mohegan and knew we would miss all the visuals. So we complained to the venue and were allowed to move to 209. Yes it was much farther away but we were able to see everything. For the most part we were the only people standing up the entire time. A big fuck you to the assholes behind us who smoked pot all night and had cell phone conversations during the show.


Anyone else have the same problem with section 120?

Next stops NH & MA. Can't wait. I have work in like 6 hours.......Of course I'm never disappointed after a show. This was number eight for us.
Grand Pontiff
EDIT -- I was also in section 120. I stayed there though. I didn't really mind. We did try to coerce some staff into letting us into the Pit, but that didn't happen :P

First show of this tour for me, 3rd time seeing NIN.

I very much enjoyed the show, despite my extremely-off to the side angle. My seat was close enough, but I missed out on the full experience of the visuals. I was on Robin's side.

Trent was really chatty. He said the band was looking forward to this show for quite some time (anyone know why? I guess NY/NJ shows are usually a big stop for a tour?)... and gave a little speech saying how great it felt to make personal music for himself, and then get it out there, and then having people actually listen to his music and go to his shows. He's really sincere and he said he was really proud to put on the show and couldn't wait to blow our minds away tonight.


Highlights:

REPTILE-- Best song of the night. Robin kicked ass.
Head Down -- Trent went crazy on some little keyboard.
1,000,000 -- Really great opener.
God Given
Gave Up
Ghosts Piggy! The upright bass was awesome.
Big Come Down
So, so glad they played Pinion before Wish. :)


I was really impressed with the Slip stuff in general, the songs translate really well live. Ghosts was very good, but slowed down the set considerably. I'm not complaining (although Ghosts 5 is REALLY REALLY slow. Not much happens in this song.. heh), but a lot of people left during this section or started talking. Slightly less impressive was the Year Zero material. Well, let me rephrase.. some of it. The Warning sounded good but did not kick my ass like Terrible Lie, Wish, Reptile, Gave Up, Head Down, etc. Same goes for Vessel, which had a very long cool breakdown but seemed like an appetizer compared to some of the other amazing performances. The Greater Good had nice visuals going for it (remember, I was off to the side though!), but the song is too mellow and repetitive to work in a concert IMO. Especially since we got tons of other slow songs. God Given on the other hand... was INCREDIBLE. And Good Soldier / In This Twilight are definitely great live.

Overall, I'm a big fan of this setlist. It's a really diverse set of songs.. one second they're kicking your ass with a song like Letting You and then they're on a completely different set of instruments, playing a hauntingly beautiful slow instrumental over an eerie backdrop. Then they're in hardcore electronic mode with Vessel. NIN has so many songs, and as fans we could all think of fantasy setlists that we'd prefer, but Trent managed to squeeze in plenty of material from both of his new albums, play all of his hits, and still give us some bonuses.


No NIN fan should skip out on this tour.
Master Traveler
Whoever did the sound for Does It Offend You, Yeah? sucked. All you could hear was a snare drum and some other noise. The drummer was playing the cymbals...couldn't even hear it. Actually, I found this quite funny. At one point, the drummer's stick broke and he stopped playing to get another stick and you couldn't even tell he had stopped playing.

But nin rocked. That's all that counted.

-CEJ
Great show...great crowd.

Uhhhh...HORNS UP Rob. lol

*waves goodbye*
Grand Pontiff
oh yea I don't know if this has ever been discussed but The Greater Good is just the recording of the album version except for Trent's singing at the end and it was funny how my seat was at the furthest side of the stage because I could see all the crew setting up and Josh leaving the stage during the YZ parts where all everyone else sees is the visuals
Master ad Vitam
Goddamn that was good. Just amazing. One of the highlights was absolutely Trent giving some very sincere and moving words about making music and the relationship it has with the fans. Also nice to see he was very kind/supportive in regards to Does It Offend You, Yeah? who were a lot of fun. DIOY,Y? were also notably appreciative of the crowd, who they repeatedly said were the nicest they've experienced.

"God Given" was just as good as I'd hoped (probably my favorite of the night)

"Only" had some incredible visuals (neat intro, too)

I loved how Robin (who was in top fucking form), was the only one left on stage after the screen dropped behind him at the end of "Gave Up"

I like how Trent seems to be changing Alessandro's occupation each time he introduces the band (who he also introduced as his friends tonight): "Wires, Gadgets, Good Looks: Alessandro Cortini."

The beginning of "1,000,000": Each band member gets lit up... when it gets to JMJ, he's just standing completely still like he's the FUCKING MAN. Extremely badass on his part.

Even if this wasn't my favorite NIN show (my 4th - yay!), this unquestionably had the best ending I've seen. "In This Twilight" combined with individual band member exits was immensely classy. Well done, guys. You were amazing, and we hope you come back soon. Thanks for a show that most definitely blew my mind.
Master ad Vitam
120 treated the missus and i well...then again, i had the two seats next to me to myself to thrash away during some of the better moments (reptile, big comedown, the greater good, vessel, etc.)-----but i think rockin99 was sitting there just before? row 10 for us, if so. friday's show will be further back, so i reckon we'll get the full screen experience.

anyway...i was definitely pleased, and though i've been reading all setlists for the tour, there were still some unexpected treats- reptile and its placement being the best, naturally...and even all the spoilers were still exciting to watch unfold. otherwise, god given has grown on me in a big, big way, and robin's perfect whispering earned a few cheers from our direction...

as far as the staples: hurt is better this time around...the intro to only is nice n'pretty, and terrible lie & gave up never fail to move me. otherwise, was happy for a very diverse setlist, and the ghosts songs were probably the most impressive. missing the fragile, but still very very satisfied.

will be uploading some decent point & click photos tomorrow...and will be gearing up for a few extra treats in philly!


edit: i was expecting to absolutely LOATHE does it offend you, yeah?, but we were impressed, and i may give them a second shot...i thought they were charming, and their songs translated well live.
Bricklayer
this was my first nin show and i had a blast! setlist and energy was great. i was in section 123 and the view wasn't bad at all. i sat next to a taper so we should be getting an audio bootleg of the show at some point soon.
Bricklayer
frankieteardrop wrote:120 treated the missus and i well...then again, i had the two seats next to me to myself to thrash away during some of the better moments (reptile, big comedown, the greater good, vessel, etc.)-----but i think rockin99 was sitting there just before? row 10 for us, if so.
I was in 120 row 10 seats 3 & 4 immediately after they let us in but we moved up top immediately to see all the visuals. Sec 209 was not really into the show but we were up the entire show. For us, it was worth the move we had a blast. Can't wait for NH & MA.
Master ad Vitam
oh man, what an amazing night...better than mohegan sun fo' sho'. plus, i had GA instead of seats this time so it was that much more intense. met "the evil gumby" and "tinadoll" by accident it turns out...we just started chatting and realized we were both on ets. that was pretty cool. anyway, two things to mention: did anyone else see the girl that i refer to as the "prom queen"? is she a user on here? and another, did anyone recognize the girly, TDS Finke-esque guy? when the concert was going on he was just kinda standing there...strange. ended up not getting any merch or even looking at the table to begin with tonight...i had no patience to wait after the show was done. i wanted out ASAP. all in all prob the best show i have seen and i will upload the pics when i get the chance tomorrow evening. i got some decent ones...
Master Traveler
think i just fucked this last post up lets try this again...

the frail into reptile...!!!!!

god given...!!!

never ending strobe lights...!!!

smokin row ;-) ( section 126)!!!

go nin!
Master ad Vitam
rockin99 wrote:I was in 120 row 10 seats 3 & 4 immediately after they let us in but we moved up top immediately to see all the visuals. Sec 209 was not really into the show but we were up the entire show. For us, it was worth the move we had a blast. Can't wait for NH & MA.
in that case- glad you had a better view of things in 209- and thanks in a sense for the extra bit of dancing/thrashing room!
Bricklayer
Speaking of merch, what's with putting less than half the merch downstairs before the show? Hey dumbasses that run Izod: put ALL the merch upstairs and downstairs. I had to wait 20+ minutes at an overcrowded table upstairs after the show for what I wanted when I could have just left.
Master Traveler
got a cool lights in the sky tour t shirt and decal sticker NIN
Master of the Ninth Arch
What an amazing show. Right at the front on the right side in front of Robin for the whole set...great view. The setlist was spectacular and the band was on fire from the very first song. I cannot even describe how thrilled I was when The Frail finishes...quiet...and then fucking Reptile starts; a nice surprise placement. It's hard for me to even say what the highlights were because every song was so great. Trent was also pretty talkative tonight and was extremely courteous to the crowd; he said something along the lines of, "I'm getting this urge to talk...I've been doing this for a long time or so I've been told, and coming from someone who didn't get into this because of money or to fuck girls or whatever, who wrote this stuff down because it would have driven me crazy otherwise, getting the balls to put it out and see other people can relate to it, many years later to still see a room full of people wanting to see it is the best feeling in the world and I thank you for that."

Truly an incredible experience.
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:Also.....anyone have any information about why there were so many video cameras and crews recording songs? One of the security guards told me MTV was having a special and was grabbing some footage. Which is fucking sweet if true!
I was wondering the same thing. I saw a guy with the huge videocamera between the VIP GA barricades and the stage. Personally I was hoping it was going to be for a DVD or something, but I'll take whatever I can get.
Master of the Ninth Arch
What an amazing show! I freaked when I heard the beginning of Reptile and I was also happy to hear Head Down. Trents voice sounded great and I thing this was sooo much better than the last show I went too (mohegan sun). I was in sec 122 row 10 and had an amazing view. I went with my husband, who isn't really a NIN fan, and he was definitely impressed by the show (how could you not be?)

Just a few minor complaints... The girls in front of me sat down the whole time and left before the encore (not really a problem,but I thought it was weird)and the guys in back of me were talking about Dave Matthews Band during the Ghosts part of the show. I thought I was whispering to my husband (apparently not..I had a few drinks) that they should shut the fuck up and I wanted to punch them in their faces. When we got to the car, he told me that I said that really loud and we had a good laugh.

I can't believe this, but I cried really hard during Hurt. I don't listen to it that much because it reminds me of a really painful part of my life, but tonight it really got to me.

I am so glad that I am going to the Philly show and I have GA. My seats were excellent, but I really want to be down on the floor.
Master of the Ninth Arch
joyus self destruction wrote:
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:Also.....anyone have any information about why there were so many video cameras and crews recording songs? One of the security guards told me MTV was having a special and was grabbing some footage. Which is fucking sweet if true!
I was wondering the same thing. I saw a guy with the huge videocamera between the VIP GA barricades and the stage. Personally I was hoping it was going to be for a DVD or something, but I'll take whatever I can get.
Yeah, there were two cameras on the light structures recording the stage. At least two professional size cameras in the front of the stage. There were at least 3 occasions where a camera man walked down entire railing taking long crowd shots. I really hope some of this footage gets used for something. It was an amazing show that I'd love to have at least parts of in HD beauty.
Reptile and The Big Come Down were def the best songs i have ever seen in a concert.
the whole fucking show was incredible, Josh was a fuckin beast and Robin's performance...holy shit
Master of the Ninth Arch
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:Yeah, there were two cameras on the light structures recording the stage. At least two professional size cameras in the front of the stage. There were at least 3 occasions where a camera man walked down entire railing taking long crowd shots. I really hope some of this footage gets used for something. It was an amazing show that I'd love to have at least parts of in HD beauty.
Yeah, really. This tour deserves some kind of chronicling like And All That Could Have Been and Beside You In Time and I'm hoping we'll see something like that in the future, but any kind of footage from this electrifying show would make me happy.
tamest vip ga for nin show i've ever been at. my only complaint.
Grand Pontiff
Well, I almost didn't go to this show. I had just spent most of my money on seeings two Radiohead shows, and, having already seen Nine Inch Nails eight times, didn't quite feel like putting myself farther into debt for another concert.

That, and the Radiohead concerts I had just gone to were amazing, I mean as in the best I had ever been to, not just musically, but production as well, Radiohead's light show especially was the best I had ever seen in a concert by FAR (if you didn't get a chance to see them on this tour, check it out on You Tube). I just kinda figured that after a show like that, Nine Inch Nails, well, was gonna fall kind of flat (and I've been a NIN fan for over 14 years now).

Well I changed my mind last minute, got good seats (section 107), and boy am I glad that I did. I was dead wrong. Not only did Nine Inch Nails not seem "flat" compared to Radiohead, they flat out blew the Radiohead shows out of the water. In fact, this show was not only the best Nine Inch Nails show I've ever seen, it was the best concert I've ever seen period.

The lighting, I mean, I don't even know where to begin. Epic. The bright white lighting during The Slip songs, the screen behind the band during the Year Zero songs, the screens for Ghosts, and in particular, the "swinging cage" lighting during The Big Come Down, and the "touch screen" during Only were pretty close to being the most amazing things I have ever seen in my life.

I loved the way the set was broken into sections, if you will, bringing the concert through different phases and periods. They started out strong with heavy material, including a lot off of The Slip which, though I was unimpressed with on the cd, were some of the highlights of the show live. After the heavy opening songs, it went into an electronic Year Zero phase, followed by an incredible middle down time with ghost material (highlighted by an upright bass and ukulele (?) jazzy version of Piggy) and ended strong with heavy material again.

Only Nine Inch Nails puts that much thought into a set list, to give an experiance a bit like a hurricane, a big hard slam in the opening, a calm in the eye of the storm, and then goes out hard again. Each section meant to invoke a different reaction, different feeling with the audience. You're not just at a concert, you're literally being taken on a journey. Really incredible.

It wasn't just a concert, it was an audio/visual experience. You used all of your senses to experience the show (um, maybe the people up close got to smell the band?) and it really put it levels above any others I've seen.

I was quite happy with the set list, especially the good amount of Year Zero content, which I was especially excited to see translated live.

My only complaint was that I had a hard time hearing Alessandro's keyboards/other shit during the show. It seemed to be drowned out by the guitars all night.

I've outgrown most of the bands I listened to in middle and high school, but not Nine Inch Nails, and tonight shows why. Trent continues to challenge himself and his fans with new (and in my opinion, better) music with each album. And even though Radiohead will probably be remembered as the most important band of our generation (and rightfully so), Nine Inch Nails should be remembered as the band who put on the best damn shows. I'm excited for the DVD already.

Oh, and did I mention the lighting?
Master of the Ninth Arch
ddust102 wrote:tamest vip ga for nin show i've ever been at. my only complaint.
Really? I had seats, but from what I could see, the entire middle section of the floor was really into the show.
Bricklayer
Incredible experience. First time seeing Fink perform ever. He tore it up.

Trent's speech was awesome to hear too.

I thought that In This Twilight has a whole new dimension live and makes for a great closer. The guitar during the chorus is fucking haunting.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I was GA standing, I am a girl and expected to be killed. I was not killed, I did not WANT to be killed, but it is what I expected.

I was most certainly punched in the kidneys several times though...

Anyway, best show of my life, period.
Bricklayer
ahhhhh, i am so glad i went to this show. i wasn't sure if i was going to go, i was just going to see the philly show.. but i just kept debating back and forth about this show. i went, i met up with Starman and bought his seated ticket, while he bought a GA ticket. i have GA for philly, so i was really excited to have A SEAT for this show. starman is really nice!

the audio/visual experience for this tour is mindblowing. even though i could hear that trent's voice was a little strained, his performance was great. the "new" band is very tight and puts on a wonderful show. it's good to see Finck back with the group, although everytime i looked at him i pictured him as an amish person (thanks meathead) and it made me laugh.

i was in sec127, kind of far away but i was able to see EVERYTHING, which is what i wanted. the girl behind me had smelly feet, and said really stupid things that made my brain cringe. the other people around me didn't seem super into the show, which was disappointing. the only song the one girl next to me knew was HLAH.

reptile was such a fucking surprise!

i have GA for philly, i can't wait. i just hope i have enough gas money to get down there hahaha

and i'm going to echo the sentiments that trent was a regular chatty cathy tonight, i don't think i've heard him talk this much during a show... ever.

all in all, fucking great show!
Master Traveler
my brain exploded 5 times at the show. best concert i have ever been to. it was my 5th time seeing nin and exceeded my high expectations.

took tons of pictures and videos. will upload soon.

vip ga was so much fun. so close to the stage. ah. such a great experience. freese's lcd sampler is nuts.

anyone notice that it seemed like something was out of sync on gave up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTFdwcUbOL0

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Bricklayer
kskill wrote:my brain exploded 5 times at the show. best concert i have ever been to. it was my 5th time seeing nin and exceeded my high expectations.

took tons of pictures and videos. will upload soon.

vip ga was so much fun. so close to the stage. ah. such a great experience. freese's lcd sampler is nuts.

anyone notice that it seemed like something was out of sync on gave up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTFdwcUbOL0

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iiii.... need to sleep. i thought you were talking about josh's nuts.. and i was like, "Wow, you were really that close?"

ahh, sleep.
Master ad Vitam
fernandopassion wrote:oh man, what an amazing night...better than mohegan sun fo' sho'. plus, i had GA instead of seats this time so it was that much more intense. met "the evil gumby" and "tinadoll" by accident it turns out...we just started chatting and realized we were both on ets. that was pretty cool. anyway, two things to mention: did anyone else see the girl that i refer to as the "prom queen"? is she a user on here? and another, did anyone recognize the girly, TDS Finke-esque guy? when the concert was going on he was just kinda standing there...strange. ended up not getting any merch or even looking at the table to begin with tonight...i had no patience to wait after the show was done. i wanted out ASAP. all in all prob the best show i have seen and i will upload the pics when i get the chance tomorrow evening. i got some decent ones...
*waves*

Yea the Merch tables sucked..The two that were even there to begin with

Good meetin' you!
Master Traveler
My contribution to this thread:
-I fucking went at it so hard and everything is so sore and achey that I have no idea how I am going to do GA in Philly + a Sonic Youth show on the 30th.
-I was very happy to see that in NJ apparently row 6 = 1st row. So happy because I had something to hold on to (no pun intended) as opposed to not, in which case, I would have surely fallen over the seats whilst mad thrashing.
-I was very happy to see Terrible Lie got a presentation awesome enough to match it's live power.
-I was pissed when they didn't play Great Destroyer, and then Vessel owned, so it was all OK.
-As soon as Trent started playing The Frail, I felt very resigned at the idea he could ever NOT go straight into The Wretched. Then they played Reptile. Which was awesome.
-Zero-Sum piano outro was a great surprise and made me wish they had attempted to pull it off live as a closer.
-Ghosts Piggy is where it's at.
-6th time seeing NIN, while the stage was definitely the best, for me it just didn't beat Jones Beach '06. This tour has another chance on Friday, and it just may take it then.
-I realize they played a lot off of Year Zero, BUT I STILL WANTED MORE. Also, more Fragile. And Last. Not to be too picky y'know?

/obnoxious post
Grand Pontiff
The energy from the crowd was really great tonight -- though after the high-school prom crowd at Toledo, I guess it was bound to be an upper. :) I *really* wished I was in that pit. I was also in 120, but thankfully on the left edge and almost down front, so I could see the stage. Actually, I was a couple of rows behind Robin's family and a bunch of their friends, which added even more to the energy. They seemed super nice, too. (Before they introduced themselves to people, I kept wondering, "Who *are* all these 50+ people?" I'm just a few years younger than Reznor, and I'm usually one of the older people around... it was very disorienting. <s>)

Reptile was a great surprise, and goddamn that is the sexiest fucking song live. And bonus that we didn't have to trade off The Good Soldier to get it either. I'd really love to see a song added to the Vessel section, though... with only two songs it feels more like a set change than a section. (Me I'm Not was amazing in Toledo, btw. More, please. <s> Of course, CapG wouldn't suck, either... )

I did feel bad for Reznor after that nice speech about how he never got into music for the fame or money or sex, but to get the art that was inside of him out, and how special it was to be able to share it with others and have it speak to them... And then, sheesh -- even after a "thanks for sharing these intimate times with me, and here's an intimate song... Hurt," people still have to scream stupid things. Even people in the presale section.

Reznor's voice keeps sounding stronger over the concerts I've been to, even from Toledo to tonight. I hope that bodes well for Philly -- and can't wait to see if there really will be special treats!
Grand Pontiff
honestly , this was one of the most enjoyable concerts i have ever been to in my life . the crowd, the lights, the music ... words will not sum up how great of an experience this was for me. you must see it for yourself

MY FUCKING GOD, reptile after the frail.!....i was praying for the wretched but when we got retile .....i was flipping .
if i was watching the setlist online from my comp. i would have said ""no way" but to actually get it ....and to be there to witness it ... it was just unreal!! i was on cloud nine when he played it so early, such a nice treat for the fans who have been watching the set lists of previous shows.
The slip songs were really good but i cant help but stress about the warning / vessel . this segment of the show is just so amazing and powerful . i could really feel the energy rising during these songs.
also the speech before hurt wass really special and made me feel like i was sitting there talking to him face to face.
this is wat going to concerts is all about , what MUSIC is all about and how i feel right is why im a NIN fan for life and always will be!
Life doesnt get better right now for me... untill the next NIN concert that is
Master of the Ninth Arch
Show was amazing. I'll post more in length about it after I get home from school today. I took video of the Ghosts set, and most of Trent's introduction of the band/beginning of God Given.

The Ghost songs were really the highlight of the show for me. Phenomenal.


I was in back GA and had a pretty good view of the band. I was surprised the floor wasn't completely filled, but I'm not complaining, because I wouldn't have been able to see at all if it was.

Tomorrow I've got GA presale tickets so I'm looking forward to that.
Bricklayer
jessamineny wrote:I was also in 120, but thankfully on the left edge and almost down front, so I could see the stage. Actually, I was a couple of rows behind Robin's family and a bunch of their friends, which added even more to the energy. They seemed super nice, too. (Before they introduced themselves to people, I kept wondering, "Who *are* all these 50+ people?" I'm just a few years younger than Reznor, and I'm usually one of the older people around... it was very disorienting. <s>)
We were sitting right behind them in row 10. My boyfriend just flat out asked them why they were at a nails concert, and one guy was kind enough to do a round of introductions. Apparently Robin's family is from Park Ridge/Montvale, which is where I used to live. It was kinda cool to talk to them. They were really pleasant people.

Freaking awesome show. The floor did seem really tame, only really getting into it a few times. I was happy that I ended up on the left side of 120, because the right side was staring directly at the side of the stage. At least we could see part of the screens from our seats. I couldn't believe how long they played, and Trent's "talkative" moment was pretty cool too. Altogether, a great night.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Starman wrote:It's going to take some time to process all this. I've been on my feet for almost 7 hours.

It was an amazing show. I've been to a lot of shows in my time, but this one, I believe, tops them. It doesn't beat the best TIME I had at a show, that goes to Maiden with friends years ago, but the show itself was badass.

I was in front and to the right of the soundboard in rear GA. A small mosh pit formed a few times. Nobody was hurt.

Met Reptileseven and scaredsqee from here. R7 I met briefly to buy her GA tix (thanks a million!) and scaredsquee bought my Section 127 ticket. Squee was great to talk to.

And if Steve and Dana are reading this, /wave. I hope Dana wasn't too bruised.

I have pics and vids, but it's just too late to post them now. I'll do it all tomorrow.
It was nice to meet you too. Thanks for taking the tickets (last minute people who bailed) I was so hungry when I met up with you. Had to run back to the car to eat. I had a blast though. NIN always puts on a great show. Hopefully today I will load my pics & videos to share.
Master of the Ninth Arch
help me i'm in hell wrote: -6th time seeing NIN, while the stage was definitely the best, for me it just didn't beat Jones Beach '06.
SAME.
help me i'm in hell wrote: -I realize they played a lot off of Year Zero, BUT I STILL WANTED MORE. Also, more Fragile. And Last. Not to be too picky y'know?
SAME!

Awesome, awesome show...i almost didn't make it, work etc. But we did and it was amazing!! REPTILE. love it. 31 songs! I had an extra pair of VIP GA tix and found 2 people in the front of the regular GA line and sold them at way below face value and I was so glad I did because no one appreciated them more than they did, they sent me a text afterwards. there were scalpers there sleazing around, fuck them.

We were in 120 and I thought it was an awesome view, it was obviously the VIP section and for friends/family because 99% of the people around us were a) older (50+) and/or b) not into it (or just sedate?) but they were all wearing all access passes. and what the hell was with the 2 HAMMERED asshats that stumbled in halfway through the ENCORE and climbed into row 7 or 8, walking on top of the older family members and the backs of chairs to just move back out and fall all over?

funny--when we got to our seats the couple next to us asked if I post here, and then said, "you're from Guam?" because of my YZ thing under my name. :) AWESOME SHOW.
Grand Pontiff
fantastic show. better than cleveland. reptile after the frail blew my fucking mind. met some cool people in the parking lot and in the pit, all around great time.

i bought the does it offend you, yeah? when i saw that they were opening and really liked it. i thought they were great live and can't wait to see them again tomorrow night in philly.
Knight of the Royal Axe
I really have no words, the concert left me speechless, I just can say that I feel like my internal batteries are now recharged 100%

People in presale line - you were great to spend a day with :)
i had to sleep on it to save up my long rant. i've seen every NIN tour since fragility 1.0 (i know not as impressive as many people here) but there's no question that this is the most powerful band and show they've done.

the most striking aspect is the incredible versatility and artistry of the band. you think back to when trent would say he was hiring people that were playing "fuck, you" rather than "c#, d#" (or whatever the terrible lie chord is). in those old shows the band would sacrifice clarity for catharsis. the most important thing was to play loud and break shit. guitar solos would be furious, but sound mostly like white noise (that's you, aaron north). the new band plays like a team of surgeons. its "fuck, you" with a razor instead of a sledgehammer. obviously, they are able to pull of materials like anything on ghosts and much of year zero because of their multi-instrument versatility and emphasis on clarity, but even older material like terrible lie and reptile got BETTER because 1) it was still played hard as hell, like a boot to the face, 2) the musicians are so good that they can deviate and play the "live" version of the song without sounding like random static. in particular here i mean robin, whose guitar solos were an absolute thing of beauty. half the songs when from great to transcendent because of the extra level he would throw in with his playing.

everyone's said enough about the visuals, so i won't heap on. i'll just mention my favorite songs.

Letting You - this isn't my favorite slip song, but 1,000,000 actually comes off a little slow and the band really picks up here.

Reptile - unBELIEVABLE, maybe the best song in the show, and a perfect example of how this new band takes an old classic to a new level.

The Warning - before the show i would have preferred great destroyer to this, but not now. love the synth work in this replacing the guitar part.

Ghosts/Piggy - after a truly great ghosts section I love the performance and visuals for piggy - the slower, deliberate pace is perfect.

Absolute favorite section of the show is after this part where they just hit an absolute peak and stay there through head like a hole. terrible lie still sounds as vital as ever, survivalism was shockingly good live, the big comedown at this point is probably the best song that they play, ghosts 31 is definitely their best ghosts track (love robin on this one as well), hand that feeds and head like a hole are exactly what you'd expect.

after that kind of hard-hitting climax, i think the encore is PERFECT. you're not going to play harder and faster than those last 6 songs, so i really enjoyed all of the encore pieces, especially the good solider, which was my second favorite YZ track, and god given, which was one of my least favorite and was my favorite live YZ track. that bomb squad production really sounds amazing live. great to have the show close on my favorite YZ and one of my favorite all time NIN tracks.

Finally, its so great to see Trent so clearly proud of a show. Its obvious that for this tour he's finally gotten the chance, by getting sober and re-investing in his incredible genius, to deliver the product that he always imagined, on exactly his terms, with musicians that can actually meet his unyielding standard of quality. im just glad i got to see it.

soapbox, over.
Bricklayer
Sue wrote:funny--when we got to our seats the couple next to us asked if I post here, and then said, "you're from Guam?" because of my YZ thing under my name. :) AWESOME SHOW.
Hi. That was me and my boyfriend. He was saying that he wondered who was going to end up next to him, and I said, "someone from this board that I check every so often." So when he asked if I knew where you guys would be from, I jokingly said, "I don't know... Guam?" Totally forgot about the ARG. I had no idea he'd take me seriously. It was his first Nine Inch Nails concert, and I think he was a litle overwhelmed. Esp after meeting the Finck family and friends. Sorry about that.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Hunter442 wrote: Hi. That was me and my boyfriend. He was saying that he wondered who was going to end up next to him, and I said, "someone from this board that I check every so often." So when he asked if I knew where you guys would be from, I jokingly said, "I don't know... Guam?" Totally forgot about the ARG. I had no idea he'd take me seriously. It was his first Nine Inch Nails concert, and I think he was a litle overwhelmed. Esp after meeting the Finck family and friends. Sorry about that.
don't apologize, I thought it was funny, I wasn't making fun of you--plus we couldn't even hear each other! and my friend I was with was completely confused because she never followed the ARG at all. nice to 'meet' you anyway--and if that's his first show, I don't know how he'll enjoy anything after that, anything else is a step down...

I saw someone with a video camera, hopefully it will surface on DVD or mtv like someone else said. and the pit looked pretty tame but then during Piggy someone got pulled out (unconscious, i think) and they were working on (her, i think). But it's a testament to the power of NIN that I got totally distracted from that and sucked right back into the show and remembered during the encore, but I guess they took the person to first aid because they were gone. Hope they were ok.
Master ad Vitam
i saw that too, and it definitely made 'the greater good' a little more of a concerned experience. hope she's all right, indeed.
Bricklayer
My first NIN show... my mind was blown. I've seen so much concert footage that for awhile it didn't seem like I was really there. Felt like I was watching a video.

Took a few photos. The later ones are better because I put fresh batteries in the camera.

Was in Section 120, Row 7, seat 4. Couldn't see some of the visuals the same way as the people facing the front of the stage, but could see some things they couldn't - like the band behind screens. Trent faced our section several times... sometimes seemed to be looking right at me. I didn't get photos of him doing that... some things I wanted to keep for myself, if that makes sense.

Shallow observation: Trent's legs are diesel!

Musically everything was so tight. Robin is a maniac. Trent had tons of energy. Amazing how he can still make everything fresh and immediate even though he's been "at this for a long time" (to paraphrase what he said).

Such a lot of material, great set list, I wish it could have gone on longer but obviously two hours of high energy is an amazing gift.
Master of the Ninth Arch
jadenar wrote:My first NIN show... my mind was blown.

took a few photos

Will edit this to add details.
were you in 120? looks like it.
Master ad Vitam
Sue wrote:
jadenar wrote:My first NIN show... my mind was blown.

took a few photos

Will edit this to add details.
were you in 120? looks like it.
good ol' 120.
Bricklayer
Sue wrote:
jadenar wrote:My first NIN show... my mind was blown.

took a few photos

Will edit this to add details.
were you in 120? looks like it.
Yes ma'am. Row 7 (which was really row 2), seat 4. I was wearing a YZ shirt.
Master of the Ninth Arch
yeah on top of the great seats how awesome is it that the section started at row 6?? I was in 10.

also, the Dewars 12 club was open before the show so we went down and had a few drinks, but it was closed for the afterparty afterwards.
Bricklayer
just....WOW.

My 5th NIN show and by far the best. I was in the VIP GA floor area, and started out about 3 people away from the stage (dead center). Lots of cool people around me, except for this one blond who was sticking both elbows into my back the ENTIRE TIME. Eventually we moved back a little and we enjoyed the show and the visuals a lot more.

The GA area was definitely not "tame"... lots of moshing and a couple of surfers too. A few of the moshers looked like professional wrestlers... no joke.

The visuals, as everyone else has already said, were just jaw dropping.

Highlights for me:

- Terrible Lie was incredible with amazing visuals. I have a new appreciation for this classic song.
- The Big Come Down was one of my favorite performances of the night.
- When the tall zombie guy next to me had no idea what was going on when they were playing the Frail.
- The mosh pit on the left-front area of the VIP floor was covered in some sort of slippery substance. I couldn't get it off of my shoes for a good 20 minutes.
- T.R. and the whole crew were top notch, all night. His voice sounded great, although it was a little raspy by the time he got to Hurt -- which was a GOOD thing IMO.
- My little sister getting smashed between 2 fat sweaty guys during Wish.
- Did anyone else notice the guy in the bathroom looking for the camera during Survivalism?

My only huge disappointment was that they didn't play THE GREAT DESTROYER. That would have been insane live. But all the other songs made up for it.

Lots of hotties out there last night....
Bricklayer
Oh... and am I the only one who thinks that this version of Piggy is NOT "Ghosts Piggy"????

It's the version of Piggy from Further Down the Spiral v2!

Not Ghosts-related at all.
Master ad Vitam
but isn't that the one with the jesus and mary chain moaning sample and the drum & bass + heavy choruses? i say nay, it's a new creation in the ghosts style...and damn beautiful.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Sue wrote:yeah on top of the great seats how awesome is it that the section started at row 6?? I was in 10.
I was in row 10 too (sec 122) and I was so really excited when I realized that it was really row 5. It was a nice surprise!
Bricklayer
I don't know what to tell you, but it is definitely not something new... not even 5 years old. I've had that version of Piggy for a very long time (and it's my favorite). I'm pretty sure it's the one from TDS, but with a slightly longer intro. I'll check again when I get home.
Master ad Vitam
well, it's very similar to the downward spiral version, for sure...but the instrumentation and arrangement is a bit fresh, with the stand-up bass meandering, the different drum solo, and a more ethereal undercurrent. it's a cousin of the original, i'd say...and has a similar structure, but the instrumentation is what makes the difference.

a bit hasty on the "new creation" comment above, but it is still a unique version.
Bricklayer
Oh and to the redhead with the black leather miniskirt and the huge NIN tattoo on her back... Hi :-)
Bricklayer
jessamineny wrote:I was also in 120, but thankfully on the left edge and almost down front, so I could see the stage. Actually, I was a couple of rows behind Robin's family and a bunch of their friends, which added even more to the energy. They seemed super nice, too. (Before they introduced themselves to people, I kept wondering, "Who *are* all these 50+ people?" I'm just a few years younger than Reznor, and I'm usually one of the older people around... it was very disorienting. <s>)
Oh, I was WONDERING who those people were. They were to my left and a row back. I thought they might be band family but didn't know whose.
Bricklayer
We were in VIP GA, and by the end of MOTP, my wife had been elbowed in the face a few too many times. For those of you I stepped on trying to get her out, I apologize.
Grand Pontiff
I don't know what else I can say that hasn't been said already. Oh wait, there is one thing: TR I want to have your babies when I hear Ghosts 19. It was the best part of the show for me.

The visuals on this tour are outstanding. I stayed away from You Tube clips of the tour so far because I didn't want to be spoiled and I'm so glad I did that. Vessel, Only, The Greater Good!!! (Took me a while to realize those were his lips and hands!!!) And of course In this Twilight, which totally reminded me of East Rutherford. I've said it before, I'm so glad that TR is a perfectionist. He SHOULD be proud of the show, it is top notch. They sound incredible as always and the visuals, my GOD the visuals!!!

Maybe I'm a nerd, but watching them walk off the stage one by one and TR left standing there and wave goodbye to us gave me a lump in my throat.
Bricklayer
"i now know that the depths i reach are limitless"

'nuff said.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I am so glad I had seats so I could really get into the visuals, even from the side they were stunning. He really knows how to put an artistic vision into real life. I was wondering if he was going to play nonentity in light of the Katrina anniversary and Gustav heading that way, hopefully everyone down there will fare well.

The big comedown with the light sticks was awesome too. I can watch that anyday but I can also watch a stripped down version too and that's part of the genius of trent, translating the most complex music into what he wants and it always works.

and poisonrain i miss your cat avatar with the lime helmet.
Bricklayer
Well I am in a lot of pain....this is my first NIN show in the GA section and I have to say, you people are fucking nuts (in a good way).

Last time I saw NIN was on the With Teeth tour in Philly and it was awesome but I had nosebleed seats and didn't really get the full experience. This time I was right up front and (not gonna lie) I got a little choked up when Trent first came out.

Incredible set
(Reptile, Big Come Down, In This Twilight, Letting You were all big highlights) but I was most impressed with ONLY, SURVIVALISM, AND GOD GIVEN. I've always liked those songs but never thought they were NIN's best....but live those songs took on a whole new life. Obviously, the visuals were incredible I don't need to say anything about that (highlight: swinging lights during Big Come Down and interactive screen during Only). Though I loved being that close for the show, I kind of wished I had seats during the Year Zero and Ghosts section because I think I would have got a better experience with the visuals. Especially during Ghosts, I really respect them for how they performed those songs with all the different instruments but I don't think everyone around me really appreciated it because everyone started talking and some weren't even watching.

Trent's speeches were great you can tell hes having a great time doing this tour. Also gotta give it up to the band....Trent should have Robin Finck and Josh Freese as permanent members. I've always appreciated the keyboard/electronics role in NIN, I think in a way it is the most essential element of the band. Honestly, I think Alessandro is great at what he does, but I don't like how hes kind of stripped some of the songs of synth lines and textures that to me should be there (such as in Reptile, Terrible Lie).

The best part about the show was I brought my guitarist who was never really a big fan of NIN and kind of dragged his feet to the show. After the show, he looked at me and said "You were right" and now hes going to get every single thing theyve ever released.
Knight of the Royal Axe
I had a wonderful time last night! TR was a Chatty Cathy, which is always nice. And I loved how he paused a long while after The Frail to surprise us with Reptile. What a little showman. :p

I especially loved watching TR and Robin during Reptile too. It was brutal and badass.

There were about 100 credentialed photogs last night (yes, that's an exaggeration). I understand that that's a large media market, but really, did they have to give press passes to all of NYC. From the rail, it was hard to see what was going on on stage during those 3 songs with a bunch of photographers jockeying to get their shots.

Also, there were 2 guys filming parts of the show last night. I wonder what that footage is for. They had media passes, so they weren't with NIN.

And, um, TR exchanged the red button-down shirt for a blue one. Still ill fitting, though. :p

(BTW, Does It Offend You, Yeah was friggin' awesome. I loved those boys.)

EDIT: My Cleveland bruises now have bruises. I look a mess.
Grand Pontiff
Sue wrote:
and poisonrain i miss your cat avatar with the lime helmet.
HOLY CRAP! that was eons ago! You have an awesome memory! I didn't even remember I had that avatar!
Master of the Ninth Arch
END OF AN ERA wrote:I really respect them for how they performed those songs with all the different instruments but I don't think everyone around me really appreciated it because everyone started talking and some weren't even watching.
I know, I was surprised with the standing bass, and loved the xylophone, all of it, it's a complete experience. It's funny because I'm listening to PHM right now and thinking how Trent's matured into an amazing artist, PHM is groundbreaking and raw and brutal and he harnessed all that emotion and channeled it into something really beautiful. I never thought that I'd see this back then, imagine reconciling the muddy Woodstock '94 trent with the trent of today. Unreal.
poisonrain wrote:
Sue wrote:
and poisonrain i miss your cat avatar with the lime helmet.
HOLY CRAP! that was eons ago! You have an awesome memory! I didn't even remember I had that avatar!
ha, I guess it made an impression!
Bricklayer
[quote="poisonrain"]And of course In this Twilight, which totally reminded me of East Rutherford. [/quote]


Definitely. I was telling everyone that they actually had put a camera outside for the screens during that song. haha they believed me.
Okay, so this was an alright show. It doesn't really hold a candle to the last show in the area, the Jones Beach show of '06 which really just worked from the overwhelming size of the venue as well as their tightest and most familiar setlist.

This setlist just didn't float my boat for several reasons. Mainly the performances of the Ghost tracks. I don't dislike them, and the visuals were really interesting, but it just felt like it was inserted there to give people some 'down time' to relax from stomping around a bit. It dragged on too long and people just used the opportunity to talk and shout rather than quiet down and let them do their thing. Maybe I'm biased seeing Broadway shows with quieter songs where people don't make a sound, but it altogether sounded like the audience didn't appreciate the materials. Sorry, Ghost 5 is not the kind of song you *SCREAM* at if you really are enjoying it properly. So that bothered me, also the exclusion of more Year Zero and Fragile material.

What was with the encore? Almost every show I've ever gone to, the encore is supposed to really put things over the top. Whether it was Skinny Puppy playing Blue Serge to make everyone who didn't dance earlier dance then, or The Wailers playing a 20 minute long version of Bob's "Exodus", NIN chose to play some tamer songs which just made people sit back down and relax. The Good Soldier is a perfect example of this. Now it's a great song, I liked hearing it live too, with the tracer bullet like effects in the backing screen, but it just wasn't proper for an encore. You don't put people into a relaxing mood for the encore. You're supposed to get them amped up more than they were before the show originally closed.

Trent's little speech came off more as "Please don't yell during hurt or I'll get upset" than anything more. Hey, I think he's a great honest guy, I don't think he was lying, but I'm not gonna say I was shocked to hear a speech like that preceeding Hurt where he wants people to shut up and gets pissy if they don't. Sorry, that song should just be retired. It held alot of meaning to him and others 15 years ago, but it is unbearably cheesy by now and a waste of a timeslot in the setlist. Enough Hurt, enough Closer. I don't like The Slip material any better, but I'd prefer to hear more of that than the songs I've heard at every single NIN show for 8 years.

Highlights of the night were The Warning and The Big Come Down. Excellent tracks performed spot on with great visuals. One thing I always appreciate is Trent always upping the ante with the lights and display screens, it's always something unique that you've never seen before in a concert that always adds to the experience. Some of the 3d effects on Only were really amazing and The Greater Good was also. Trent 'erasing' the LCD with the flashlight over Pinion was just naturally hilarious and a great break from the quieter Ghost material into Wish.

Glad to see Robin back over Aaron. He's not the best guitarist but maybe the best for NIN. Also Cortini doesn't get enough respect. You may not always hear him do anything improvisational or prominent in the mix but maybe that's the best thing about him as a keyboardist, he can play his part, play it right and not get in the way.

Sorry if anything I said upsets anyone, I'm not the biggest NIN fan anymore but maybe my criticism is the most honest here.

Okay, so I took three especially nice videos of Terrible Lie, Vessel, and Ghosts 5 that I will be posting to Youtube shortly. I will place links as soon as I get them.
Master ad Vitam
in record time, my writeup of the show is up and running, though as always, the formatting of the limewire music blog is a bit dicey... they swear they're working on this, but it's been ages. all the same, here's the entry:

http://blog.limewire.com/posts/3465-Nin ... er-8-27-08
Master of the Ninth Arch
I forgot to add that I also loved Vessel and God given :)

It was nice to see their family members supporting them--there were quite a few young kids (8-12) and the older parents/grandparents were enjoying themselves with tasty beverages ;)
Master ad Vitam
I'd like to add that the bit between the 1st chorus and 2nd verse of "Vessel" is fucking great. That glitchy TV effect was PERFECT.

"The Big Come Down" was unreal. Obviously, the band was tight as hell on that song (love the guitar!!), but the visuals for it were the best they've ever done for that song. With that said, the layers used for this tour are something else. God knows how they arranged everyone on stage so no one got crushed or blinded.
Master Traveler
HyQuality wrote: - Did anyone else notice the guy in the bathroom looking for the camera during Survivalism?
I noticed that as well, and I'm surprised more people haven't commented on it. I'm just not sure if it was part of the show or if that was live.

ALSO - did anyone notice the Twin Towers on fire on the background during In This Twilight? I thought that was a really ballsy move. I wasn't sure if that's what it was exactly, but it was two tall, skinny buildings, on fire, with one collapsing into itself and a huge plume of smoke in front of the collapsing one. I wasn't really sure if that was necessary in New York, but I wasn't necessarily insulted by it, either.

I thought the show was fucking awesome. The GHOSTS portion blew my mind. An older gentleman next to me said that NiN was beginning to remind him of early Pink Floyd, and I would trust that judgement because the guy seemed old enough to have seen early Pink Floyd.

I think the change of pace was wonderful, though. I would expect more of that to happen at the next few shoes. The lights were fucking incredible. I kept reading about how good these lights are and didn't believe that they could be THAT good. Well - they are. They are insane. The lights during GHOSTS made my jaw drop. I've never seen anything like it and I'm going to suggest to people I know in the lighting business to go see this tour when it comes back around for inspiration because - WOW!

I thought Only was really weak. I'm almost positive that A. Cortini was fucking him. He had a little talk with Finck following the song, and as Finck was walking away, A. Cortini spat AT him. It was a little strange. I also did not like the stage set up at all during the portion after Ghosts, it looked like NIN on a god damned day-time talk show, playing bad renditions of all of their hits.

The Slip stuff is awesome live. I'm not a huge fan of Year Zero and the Slip, but I have to admit that it really, really, really rips live.

Also, having been in VIP GA, I'd agree the crowd was tame. But, I can't complain because I had my girlfriend with me, which is not the best time for gorilla pouncing. Also, definitely the most bro'd out NIN show I've ever been, too. I didn't see any nosferatu type, tall pale, PVC wearing, lisp having goth types. Anyone agree?
Bricklayer
Still in awe over last night.

I took some videos, but nothing special. I wanted to watch the show, not see it through a camera so I didn't take much video of it.

But I was thinking - did anyone get all of "In This Twilight" on video? vimeo.com has crap search tools and there's nothing decent on youtube (someone posted vids from last night and they're completely unwatchable).

Thanks.
Bricklayer
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Master of the Ninth Arch
GhostOfNeon wrote: ALSO - did anyone notice the Twin Towers on fire on the background during In This Twilight? I thought that was a really ballsy move. I wasn't sure if that's what it was exactly, but it was two tall, skinny buildings, on fire, with one collapsing into itself and a huge plume of smoke in front of the collapsing one. I wasn't really sure if that was necessary in New York, but I wasn't necessarily insulted by it, either.
those were smokestacks from an oil refinery or something, i think. they were really skinny and looked striped. and I think there were more than 2.
Bricklayer
GhostOfNeon wrote:
ALSO - did anyone notice the Twin Towers on fire on the background during In This Twilight?
They were smokestacks. The landscape's similar to the opening to "Blade Runner".
Bricklayer
yeah, those were definitely not the twin towers.

Sweet pics, Mirrorsaw.
Bricklayer
Did anyone find any "special items" at the concert last night?
Bricklayer
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I thought Only was really weak. I'm almost positive that A. Cortini was fucking him. He had a little talk with Finck following the song, and as Finck was walking away, A. Cortini spat AT him. It was a little strange. I also did not like the stage set up at all during the portion after Ghosts, it looked like NIN on a god damned day-time talk show, playing bad renditions of all of their hits.

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I disagree. While I see what you mean, I think that since Trent's pushing mid-40s, he's not going to fling shit around and hurl himself at Robin anymore just for the sake of it. Imagining an older Trent doing that is actually quite comical. He's being true to his age. He still rocks out though. The show was a bit classier than earlier incarnations which is understandable.

Hearing Piggy was sort of odd though and I don't think it fits much now. I just imagined the '94 Trent in a desperate heap on the floor with just a mic singing and it made more sense to me.

I did notice that no guitars really got TRENTSMASHED. I guess technically, the show went pretty smoothly.
Master Traveler
Sue wrote:
GhostOfNeon wrote: ALSO - did anyone notice the Twin Towers on fire on the background during In This Twilight? I thought that was a really ballsy move. I wasn't sure if that's what it was exactly, but it was two tall, skinny buildings, on fire, with one collapsing into itself and a huge plume of smoke in front of the collapsing one. I wasn't really sure if that was necessary in New York, but I wasn't necessarily insulted by it, either.
those were smokestacks from an oil refinery or something, i think. they were really skinny and looked striped. and I think there were more than 2.
I'd love to agree with you, and the thought definitely crossed my mind that that's what they were, but having had what I thought was a great perspective, it really seemed like the TT. I know that there were more than 2, but on the right side, featured quite prominently were two towers taller than the rest, one fire, with one slightly shorter than the other, looking like it was collapsing because of the large plum of smoke which was visible only beneath this one tower. . . Maybe someone has a pic?
Master Traveler
That was fucking fantastic last night. Me and my group ordered tickets through the fan club and we were pleasantly surprised to see those sweet personalized tickets. Trent and Co. sure know how to treat fans! The show itself was fantastic, I wasn't really into "Does it Offend You" but I have seen MUCH worse in the score of opening acts. The Ghosts material was absolutely amazing and the light/screen design was the best compliment possible to an already astounding musical and physical performance. Its always great to see Trent destroying shit, and he did did his fair share of that last night. I love NIN and their not only faithful to their long time fans, but also to the new generation. My only "complaint" with the show is the lack of Fragile representation... That album is SOOO amazing and TR never seems to play a whole lot off of it, regardless this show was easily one of the best concerts I've ever been to! Much love NIN hope to see you again soon!
Bricklayer
I didn't see the twin towers, and Only was actually, for a song that I am so done with hearing the studio version of, suprisingly good and got me moving.
Master Traveler
rockin99 wrote: A big fuck you to the assholes behind us who smoked pot all night and had cell phone conversations during the show.
I have to stress this fact just in case the assholes happen to read this board. Though I doubt it. A GIANT FUCK YOU to the assholes who came AFTER the show started, sat down and acted bored, LIT UP the second they got there and never seemed to run out of things to smoke, complained, talked on their cell phones in their drawling stoned ass voices, talked some more, smoked some more, then LEFT before the set was over (thank goodness for that part). WHY even bother coming if all you are going to do is ruin it for the rest of us? I regret not trying to get them kicked out. I really do. Jerks.

Anyway, as hubby said, we had "premuim" seats in section 120. We knew better at this point that seeing the show from the side was not great - I requested other seats and they gave us section 209. I felt bad that I was standing the entire time blocking everyone, but I find it really hard to sit or be still at a NIN concert. Nobody up top seemed as in to it as everyone closer to the stage. The view was far away but at least we saw everything. I was so excited (to say the least) that we got to see Head Down.
I have some slightly sloppy videos but I can't get photobucket OR youtube to upload them. Any ideas on what I can do to get them up?
Master Traveler
SirChadofwick wrote:
I disagree. While I see what you mean, I think that since Trent's pushing mid-40s, he's not going to fling shit around and hurl himself at Robin anymore just for the sake of it. Imagining an older Trent doing that is actually quite comical. He's being true to his age. He still rocks out though. The show was a bit classier than earlier incarnations which is understandable.
I agree with you! I just meant that the stage set up was inferior to the rest of the set ups, IMHO. Or at least less elaborate.
Bricklayer
GhostOfNeon wrote:
SirChadofwick wrote:
I disagree. While I see what you mean, I think that since Trent's pushing mid-40s, he's not going to fling shit around and hurl himself at Robin anymore just for the sake of it. Imagining an older Trent doing that is actually quite comical. He's being true to his age. He still rocks out though. The show was a bit classier than earlier incarnations which is understandable.
I agree with you! I just meant that the stage set up was inferior to the rest of the set ups, IMHO. Or at least less elaborate.

They had everything they needed up there. Nothing more, nothing less.
Bricklayer
GhostOfNeon wrote:
SirChadofwick wrote:
I disagree. While I see what you mean, I think that since Trent's pushing mid-40s, he's not going to fling shit around and hurl himself at Robin anymore just for the sake of it. Imagining an older Trent doing that is actually quite comical. He's being true to his age. He still rocks out though. The show was a bit classier than earlier incarnations which is understandable.
I agree with you! I just meant that the stage set up was inferior to the rest of the set ups, IMHO. Or at least less elaborate.
I wasn't sure what you meant. I thought it was the best they could have had it.

On a side note, I would have traded Reptile for WITT. Anyone who lives in NY or NJ and went to prior shows all know that we already had our fair share of Reptile performances. WITT would have made up for a lack of The Fragile songs and would have given the audience a collective orgasm. It sucks that he only played it in Europe and other countries.
Bricklayer
goneja wrote:
Trent's little speech came off more as "Please don't yell during hurt or I'll get upset" than anything more. Hey, I think he's a great honest guy, I don't think he was lying, but I'm not gonna say I was shocked to hear a speech like that preceeding Hurt where he wants people to shut up and gets pissy if they don't. Sorry, that song should just be retired. It held alot of meaning to him and others 15 years ago, but it is unbearably cheesy by now and a waste of a timeslot in the setlist. Enough Hurt, enough Closer. I don't like The Slip material any better, but I'd prefer to hear more of that than the songs I've heard at every single NIN show for 8 years.
I completely disagree with this. "Hurt" means as much personally, if not more, than it did to me when it came out in 1994 because the lyrics still hold so true for me. Everyone I know is still going away in the end. Naturally you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, and I just want to sort of defend Trent here by saying there's clearly a reason why he's still playing Hurt as an encore at every show. If it didn't mean something to him he would have retired it from the shows, as he has retired other songs like "Down in it" and "Something I can Never Have." I think Hurt still means something to him too and that's why it's still there. I am always thrilled beyond words to hear it live and like I said, it still means the same to me as it did in 94.
Grand Pontiff
HyQuality wrote:Oh... and am I the only one who thinks that this version of Piggy is NOT "Ghosts Piggy"????

It's the version of Piggy from Further Down the Spiral v2!

Not Ghosts-related at all.

Erm.. No, it's not. It doesn't sound like Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now). It's called Ghosts Piggy because it uses the same instrument arrangement as the Ghosts songs before it. The song sounds awesome with the upright bass and Josh Freese's drumming.
Master of the Ninth Arch
jbscout1912 wrote:
goneja wrote:
Trent's little speech came off more as "Please don't yell during hurt or I'll get upset" than anything more. Hey, I think he's a great honest guy, I don't think he was lying, but I'm not gonna say I was shocked to hear a speech like that preceeding Hurt where he wants people to shut up and gets pissy if they don't. Sorry, that song should just be retired. It held alot of meaning to him and others 15 years ago, but it is unbearably cheesy by now and a waste of a timeslot in the setlist. Enough Hurt, enough Closer. I don't like The Slip material any better, but I'd prefer to hear more of that than the songs I've heard at every single NIN show for 8 years.
I completely disagree with this. "Hurt" means as much personally, if not more, than it did to me when it came out in 1994 because the lyrics still hold so true for me. Everyone I know is still going away in the end. Naturally you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, and I just want to sort of defend Trent here by saying there's clearly a reason why he's still playing Hurt as an encore at every show. If it didn't mean something to him he would have retired it from the shows, as he has retired other songs like "Down in it" and "Something I can Never Have." I think Hurt still means something to him too and that's why it's still there. I am always thrilled beyond words to hear it live and like I said, it still means the same to me as it did in 94.
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I actually broke down and started sobbing during Hurt, which really took me by surprise. I found Trent's speech to be really sincere and didn't see it all as an attempt to get people to shut up. I think by now, he realizes that there are just assholes who won't shut the fuck up during Hurt and it would probably just be easiest for him NOT to play it but he still does. I am glad he does.
Master of the Ninth Arch
mrx75 wrote:
jbscout1912 wrote:
goneja wrote:
Trent's little speech came off more as "Please don't yell during hurt or I'll get upset" than anything more. Hey, I think he's a great honest guy, I don't think he was lying, but I'm not gonna say I was shocked to hear a speech like that preceeding Hurt where he wants people to shut up and gets pissy if they don't. Sorry, that song should just be retired. It held alot of meaning to him and others 15 years ago, but it is unbearably cheesy by now and a waste of a timeslot in the setlist. Enough Hurt, enough Closer. I don't like The Slip material any better, but I'd prefer to hear more of that than the songs I've heard at every single NIN show for 8 years.
I completely disagree with this. "Hurt" means as much personally, if not more, than it did to me when it came out in 1994 because the lyrics still hold so true for me. Everyone I know is still going away in the end. Naturally you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, and I just want to sort of defend Trent here by saying there's clearly a reason why he's still playing Hurt as an encore at every show. If it didn't mean something to him he would have retired it from the shows, as he has retired other songs like "Down in it" and "Something I can Never Have." I think Hurt still means something to him too and that's why it's still there. I am always thrilled beyond words to hear it live and like I said, it still means the same to me as it did in 94.
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Bricklayer
GoodSoldier wrote:
the only bad thing i saw was these 3 HUGE muscular bald guys in the left part of the pit...they were literally going COMPLETELY BERZERK...pushing, punching...from the seats..i LITERALLY saw a big hole in the GA were these three large bald guys were going at at...and destroying everyone around them. WHAT THE HELL....the entire show i felt sorry for everyone even near them...couldnt security do something about them?
I was right next to them for the whole show. They were pretty insane. Actually, there were quite a few groups of guys shoving people, which is fine as long as you're purposely joining in. One guy kept shoving me into the people in front of me, even though I'm a female and minding my own business, enjoying the show. Ah well, it was an amazing time nonetheless.
Master of the Ninth Arch
alice17 wrote:
GoodSoldier wrote:
the only bad thing i saw was these 3 HUGE muscular bald guys in the left part of the pit...they were literally going COMPLETELY BERZERK...pushing, punching...from the seats..i LITERALLY saw a big hole in the GA were these three large bald guys were going at at...and destroying everyone around them. WHAT THE HELL....the entire show i felt sorry for everyone even near them...couldnt security do something about them?
I was right next to them for the whole show. They were pretty insane. Actually, there were quite a few groups of guys shoving people, which is fine as long as you're purposely joining in. One guy kept shoving me into the people in front of me, even though I'm a female and minding my own business, enjoying the show. Ah well, it was an amazing time nonetheless.
I could see them from across the arena, there was a circle in the middle of the pit with people trying to avoid them and the more room they made by avoiding them the more they thrashed around.
Bricklayer
Are you talking about those guys who formed the mosh pit at the very front of the VIP floor section, off to the left? Those guys were nuts. I was in there for a few minutes and got my ass kicked.
Master Traveler
Oh man! This show kicked the Mohegan Sun's shows ass! Trent and Robin were fucking amazing! I still wish there was more Alessandro though, poor guy stuck all the way in the back.

I nearly pissed myself when they played Reptile after the Frail. The entire ride to the Arena I kept shouting "I HOPE THEY PLAY REPTILE!" And we got it. And it was amazing.

Trent had so much energy this time around, I'm glad he's feeling better. I sobbed during Hurt. (Well, I did cry a little at Mohegan, but this time it got to me much more.)

And I brought my friend who had never been to a show before. He was totally blown away. He loved it :D

I didn't get any pictures. I got some video which i'll upload when I stop being lazy. But here are some pictures that I got after waiting for god knows how long:

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We waited until almost 2:30 for Trent and Josh to come out, but they never did D:. I would have stayed longer but my friend who was driving had to be somewhere early the next day and we had a good hour drive ahead of us.

Oh well, maybe at NH!
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Grand Pontiff
Also: Do they not do the Synth intro to MOTP anymore? I always liked that. Last night, the song started with just drums. Was A.C's keyboard just not working?

It seems they took out a lot of the electronic sounds in general, in songs like Reptile, Terrible Lie, etc.

OH and I just imagined a version of Into The Void remixed Ghosts style like Piggy..seems like such a natural fit. I hope they do more songs with new, strange arrangements.
Bricklayer
I'd like a remix album from NIN, with alternate versions of the top songs from all of their past albums.
avatharlant wrote:I was Umemakoto at the show, it was fricken amazing. And uh, met Robin. My life is complete.

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He liked teh plushie I gave him :3
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Bricklayer
heh I can see the love in your eyes...
Master Traveler
Ugh, I somehow lost the Ghosts birds t-shirt I bought on the bus ride home last night.

Does anyone know where they are selling them online? It wasn't listed on nin.com's merch section and I really loved that shirt.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Some more videos from last night's show. I've got Ghosts 19/Piggy, MOTP the Warning and 1,000,000 coming up. Also have a couple from Does It Offend You, Yeah? there too.

http://www.youtube.com/maestro416
Master of the Ninth Arch
HyQuality wrote:I'd like a remix album from NIN, with alternate versions of the top songs from all of their past albums.
you could make your own from all the remix halos, there are remixes for almost everything with more coming soon i'm sure.
Grand Pontiff
Sue wrote:
alice17 wrote:
GoodSoldier wrote:
the only bad thing i saw was these 3 HUGE muscular bald guys in the left part of the pit...they were literally going COMPLETELY BERZERK...pushing, punching...from the seats..i LITERALLY saw a big hole in the GA were these three large bald guys were going at at...and destroying everyone around them. WHAT THE HELL....the entire show i felt sorry for everyone even near them...couldnt security do something about them?
I was right next to them for the whole show. They were pretty insane. Actually, there were quite a few groups of guys shoving people, which is fine as long as you're purposely joining in. One guy kept shoving me into the people in front of me, even though I'm a female and minding my own business, enjoying the show. Ah well, it was an amazing time nonetheless.
I could see them from across the arena, there was a circle in the middle of the pit with people trying to avoid them and the more room they made by avoiding them the more they thrashed around.
insanity i tell u

vvvv....lol....vvvvv
Master of the Ninth Arch
yeah only once did I wish I was in the pit instead of the seats, and after I saw them I said forget that!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
TheyCallMeDrug wrote:Some more videos from last night's show. I've got Ghosts 19/Piggy, MOTP the Warning and 1,000,000 coming up. Also have a couple from Does It Offend You, Yeah? there too.

http://www.youtube.com/maestro416
Ha. You can see rob snapping the nin.com update (below) with his iPhone at 2.40 during your 'The Warning' video. Image


Awesome fucking show. I can't wait to do it again in philly!
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Master of the Ninth Arch
Good pic Javier, i got good shots despite being on the back ga pit, we rocked the rail...philly is going to be nuts.

btw, has anyone noticed the tweaks they've been doing to the graphics? like 'the warning' and terrible lie'...oh and what 'bout those explotions during 'in this twilight? did they have them before?
Master Traveler
Echoplex, Speech, and the beginning of God Given (before my camera ran out of room) from section 102.

http://vimeo.com/1620600

I'm surprised how good the audio quality came out even after I converted it from the higher quality 750mb avi to the shitty 350mb mpeg.

-CEJ
Bricklayer
I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
Bricklayer
bazz wrote:I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
That's why I moved. The venue was telling me these were excellent "premium" seats and everything would be moved back when the headliners came on. But my wife and I knew better because we were at the Mohegan show and explained we would not be able to see the screens and a good portion of the visual effects. We moved to 209 but it was no big deal. Yes we were further away but we could see everything.

Hopefully I do not have the same problem in Worcester. Sec 109 Row GG
Bricklayer
bazz wrote:I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
What happened? Did someone get hurt in the Pit?
Bricklayer
Yeah the seats sucked ass I didn't see anything of what people even posted in pictures looks sick though. And some girl seemed straight out dead. She had no movement blood down her face I almost threw up and they took her out on a seat stretcher thing I felt so bad. People are just crazy.
Bricklayer
bazz wrote:Yeah the seats sucked ass I didn't see anything of what people even posted in pictures looks sick though. And some girl seemed straight out dead. She had no movement blood down her face I almost threw up and they took her out on a seat stretcher thing I felt so bad. People are just crazy.
That's crazy. My original seats were 120 row 10 seats 3 & 4. I think the higer seats numbers might have had a better view.
Master of the Ninth Arch
bazz wrote:I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
My husband and I were on the left side of section 120 and loved it. But, we were center floor at Mohegan Sun and will be a bit further back in Philly, so we will be seeing the show from all angles! If last night was the only show we were seeing I would probably have been pissed. In our case, it was fascinating to see the behind the scenes workings of the show. There is so much involved. Amazing.
Bricklayer
Rockin 99 yeah I saw you leave and I wasn't sure if you got your seats switched I guess you did I probably should of did the same I just assumed everything to raise and be pushed back. And I am extremly pissed cause this my first nin show and my friends and she loves Nin and I just felt horrible that she didn't get the full effect. Also if anyone knows what happened to that girl please let me know it will piss me off not to know.
Bricklayer
bazz wrote:Yeah the seats sucked ass I didn't see anything of what people even posted in pictures looks sick though. And some girl seemed straight out dead. She had no movement blood down her face I almost threw up and they took her out on a seat stretcher thing I felt so bad. People are just crazy.
My wife's video from 209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VoSNbHkK10
Awesome show...probably my 9th or so...NIN is always great.

My only complaint is with any show, the fucking toolbags that insist on being rude assholes. My friends and I were packed in pretty tightly enjoying the show....we moved forward because I couldn't take standing in front of the stupid bitch that insisted on "dancing" like a retard with two full beers in her hands. After feeling the back of my legs getting splashed with beer about six times, then feeling it start soaking through my shirt and shorts, I moved forward...just to have this same bitch and her man push through us about a song later only to then have this girls manfriend lift her up on his shoulders for two songs....seriously??? Do you think anyone really wants to stare at your explosion of backne??? Nobody there is 10 feet tall and can see over your nasty ass. If anyone else saw this person, she looked like Marla from Fight Club.

So I moved again...this time in an area that seemed to have some cool people in it...until the ghost section started. Of course then a gourp of 3 friends have to start talking...not through one song, but through 4 entire fucking songs. Nonstop dialog..LOUD dialog. The funny part comes when some guy pushes by this fat talking bitch in the crowd and she starts bitching at him and telling him he should say excuse me. They exchange words a bit and he walks away...only for me to hear this fat bitch continue bitching to her friends about how rude people are at concerts. Then they kept talking. The ABSOLUTE best part came when the one guy in particular (bald head, talking to fat ingnorant bitch, I hope you're both reading this) kept talking about all the past NIN shows he'd seen. The convo went something like this... "Yeah I saw fucking nine inch nails back in 92 man...wow...that shit was crazy...i ate 2 grams of mushrooms it was crazy...back then they used to play all the old shit which I loved, man...dead souls, shit off of pretty hate machine, broken, downward spiral, they used to play all that shit...blah blah blah blah...I wish they played more shit off of The Downward Spiral these days man...blah blah blah".

Well first off you fucking idiot, they used to play all the old shit back then because they hadn't written any of the new shit!!! How about that??? Did you really wonder why they weren't playing tracks off of YZ, WT, TS back in 92????? HUH??? REALLY??? Oh and the absolute kicker was you were having this conversation WHILE THEY WERE FUCKING PLAYING PIGGY!!! Jesus Christ...if you would have just turned around you could have seen something off of TDS!!!! Fucking idiots.

Shit like that just angers me. Don't bother wasting your time posting some follow up to this telling me some shit like "hey don't go to a concert then" or "thats what you expect, thats what happens at shows". If you're thinking of typing that right now, then YOU are one of the people I'm talking about. I expect that shit at a Hatebreed show, or a (insert any other meathead metal band here) show. I've seen well over 400 concerts in every genre of music. I'll end by saying this. I've been a fan of NIN since broken came out. Since then perhaps you will notice that Trent himself isn't the same person. The young, snot nosed asshole, who used to play covered in mud, have a drug addiction and alcohol problem, has grown the fuck up and become a man that performs live in a button down shirt and does instrumental songs complete with upright bass, tambourine, xylophone, etc. He's become a person of class and has grown into an amazing business mind as well. As his career progresses and he keeps growing and becoming my diverse....I would expect less and less of you assholes to show up at these shows. He's your idol and you love Trent so much??? Think about this for a second. Do you seriously think if TR himself was standing in the crowd at this show he would be pouring beer on other people, talking through the band he came to see, not paying attention to the visuals, having girls sitting on his shoulders, moshing, etc?? Or do you think he'd be standing still surrounded by a few friends taking it all in in all of it's glory...enjoying it on the mental level. What do you think?

Sorry for the rant, last night was just the straw on my back....
Grand Pontiff
zzzSLEEPzzz wrote:Do you seriously think if TR himself was standing in the crowd at this show he would be pouring beer on other people, talking through the band he came to see, not paying attention to the visuals, having girls sitting on his shoulders, moshing, etc?? Or do you think he'd be standing still surrounded by a few friends taking it all in in all of it's glory...enjoying it on the mental level. What do you think?

Sorry for the rant, last night was just the straw on my back....
i understand you being pissed at all those douches but saying people shouldn't mosh and just stand still i can't agree with....pretty sure TR doesn't want people just standing there staring at him either
Bricklayer
GhostOfNeon wrote:
HyQuality wrote: Also, having been in VIP GA, I'd agree the crowd was tame. But, I can't complain because I had my girlfriend with me, which is not the best time for gorilla pouncing.
what what what?

I was in VIP GA 3 people from the barricade and I had to fight not to get crushed. The show was A-MAY-ZING, so I didn't mind until my friend who had been guarding my backside went to get water and some grade-a number one anal douche wrapped his arms around me and started grinding into me and hitting me in the shoulders and the head. If you're reading this, fuckface, I hope you liked the feel of my steeltoe. I sure enjoyed taking you down. Steeltoes really are a gal's best friend :)
Bricklayer
huh??? I didnt write that...

I was also 3 people from the stage, dead center of the front floor area. It was WILD. And no, I was not that fuckface you are referring to.
Bricklayer
amanda_obscura wrote:
GhostOfNeon wrote:
HyQuality wrote: Also, having been in VIP GA, I'd agree the crowd was tame. But, I can't complain because I had my girlfriend with me, which is not the best time for gorilla pouncing.
what what what?

I was in VIP GA 3 people from the barricade and I had to fight not to get crushed. The show was A-MAY-ZING, so I didn't mind until my friend who had been guarding my backside went to get water and some grade-a number one anal douche wrapped his arms around me and started grinding into me and hitting me in the shoulders and the head. If you're reading this, fuckface, I hope you liked the feel of my steeltoe. I sure enjoyed taking you down. Steeltoes really are a gal's best friend :)
I think I saw you on the baricade If you were on the left side and the picture in your sign is the same as you in blond hair.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I know it's one day later, but I was in the VIP-GA section, one person from the rail, and it was worth all the action to be that close to the concert I can only decscribe as AMAZING BEYOND WORDS! Trent was AWESOME! I LOVED EVERYTHING! The Band, The Music, the Lights...Is it possible for EVERY song to have been my Favorite? YES! Trent's Speech-Touching! And Trent's dance during "The Big Come Down"-could any female fan NOT want to be up there with him?

I'll be riding this "Concert High" for Years!!!:D
Grand Pontiff
Just got home. Let me get my bitching out of the way first.

The Bad
hboy41 wrote:smokin row ;-) ( section 126)!!!
Fuck section 126! A bunch of fucking slouches! From where I was standing, it was the only one on the lower level where the majority sat down for most of the show. Also, an extra special "fuck you" goes out to the assholes that were located in row 15, seats 6-10. The Ghosts material was riveting, but I could consistently hear three bitches cackling away the entire time. Also, some dude behind me kept passively whispering for us to "sit down." I was waiting for him to grow a pair and say something directly to me, but he never did. If you're reading this, I hope you enjoyed the view of a pig's head on a stake that adorned the back of my shirt! Learn how to attend concerts, plz, kthnxbye!

As far as the venue is concerned, it's really not bad, but the outside staff was extremely unorganized and not one person I talked to had a clue of what the fuck was going on. However, the section guards on the interior were extremely pleasant and aware. We watched two guys try to jump sections, but they were promptly caught and the employee coordinated with another to keep an eye on them. When they tried to bribe their way into the pit, they were promptly denied.

The production was fucked up during Reptile. Two of the lights in the upper-left kept flickering to red and white (which would be utilized during the next song, Closer) and they eventually went kaput altogether. They were eventually corrected, but while the tech(s) were trying to fix them they must've fucked up something else, because all of the cues were way off in the middle of the song. It's a shame, because there were some truly dramatic effects that were lost in the timing. Still, the audio really couldn't have been better (this was at least my fourth time hearing it played live and the best rendition I can remember) and I was extremely surprised when it followed The Frail. It truly is one of the strongest live translations in the NIN catalog and I'm happy that it's continually played on every tour I see them.

Minor gripe: I didn't see Trent break out the Parker Nitefly this time around. Disappointing considering it's my personal guitar of choice.

I thought that Does it Offend You, Yeah? put on a great performance, but they should fire whoever was in charge of their mix. Much respect goes out to their overwhelming positivity, though.

The Good

Everything else! I mean, c'mon! This is a show that can't be done justice by bootlegs or even an official DVD/Blu-Ray release. You NEED to experience this production in person to understand how well-realized it is. What else can I possibly say that hasn't already been said in this thread? I'll list a few personal highlights.

-The band is so fucking tight that it's ridiculous. I've always said that I attend NIN shows for the spectacle and not the musicianship, but this new lineup may make me reconsider that feeling. I really didn't mind Aaron or Jeordie, but the return of Finck and the addition of Justin completely took the musicianship into the stratosphere. Robin still gets sloppy at times, but the energy that's behind his playing is a comparative upgrade to North's power-chord/distortion combo. Besides, the material doesn't exactly lend itself well to perfectly clean guitars, so a few missed notes is perfectly acceptable. One thing's for sure: this is a very mature band of MUSICIANS that put on an excellent display of talent and skill.

-It's nice to see that Cortini is serving a more prominent role this time around. I really feel that much of his work was lost in the old band format, but the new focus on electronics really gives him the opportunity to shine. (and the crowd took notice) Whereas Clouser before him seemed like he was sometimes off in another world doing his own thing, Alessandro seems to function more as the glue that holds the band together while still being simultaneously impressive.

-As I've stated previously, the Ghosts material is incredible and, when coupled with the visuals, it makes for a much more engaging "cool down" segment than past NIN tours. If a small all Ghosts tour ever happens, I'll fly halfway around the world to attend if I have to.

-The reworked Piggy is fucking stellar!

-The Year Zero material translated surprisingly well live, and not just because of the visuals. They really do benefit from the arena treatment. I liked the album before, but I'll never listen to songs like Vessel the same way again.

-The Hand That Feeds and Only no longer sound like basslines with vocals and background filler, but rather fully realized songs. I really can't say enough good things about what this current incarnation has done with the material.

-The old staples like Wish and Head Like a Hole are the best they've ever been with this new lineup. However, there was one standout that completely blew everything else away: Terrible Lie. This song sounded so dramatically improved over past performances that I almost shat myself. Oh, and the visuals for it were the best I've seen as well.

-NIN shows have always showed a great amount of cohesion between the audio and visuals, but the immersion factor is through the roof with this production. The cues were great as always, but the addition of interactivity between musician and stage during spots like Only, The Greater Good, Echoplex, Survivalism, and others sets a whole new standard of what a live show can and should be.

-In This Twilight functions PERFECTLY as a closer and leaving the stage one-by-one and acknowledging the crowd was a perfect way to punctuate the show with class.

-Favorite Performances: The Big Comedown, Vessel, In This Twilight, and TERRIBLE LIE

*As an aside, I gave away my tickets for section 121 to two folks who were to sit beside me in section 126. (row 14, seats 9 and 10) They seemed a bit shocked that they were getting a closer view for free and never returned, so I'm glad that someone got to enjoy them. If you're reading this, I hope you two had a great experience... and thanks for the extra leg room! :)

**Another aside, this was my girl's first REAL concert (she's been to a few country shows and, ugh, Nickleback *shudder*) and she was a friggin' trooper! She never sat down once and really enjoyed the show! I love ya', hun! :D
Master ad Vitam
I was in the VIP GA against the rail...on the right side of the stage...was right next to a girl who had never been to a nin show and i told her she should be more excited than life. she understood what that meant when it was all over...i got some pics too. some came out real blurry, some came out a little blurry, and some came out pretty nicely...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24397068@N ... 002356417/
Bricklayer
I posted links to videos of last night's set on my blog. Let me know if I missed any, or if you find a full video for a song where I have a partial listed.

There was a really fast part that Robin whispered during "Survivalism" (at least I think that's what song it was). I checked NinWiki and that part of the lyrics isn't in there... does anybody know what he says? Sorry if this information is readily available somewhere.
Grand Pontiff
jadenar wrote:There was a really fast part that Robin whispered during "Survivalism" (at least I think that's what song it was). I checked NinWiki and that part of the lyrics isn't in there... does anybody know what he says? Sorry if this information is readily available somewhere.
Are you sure it wasn't God Given?
Bricklayer
Curly21029 wrote:
jadenar wrote:There was a really fast part that Robin whispered during "Survivalism" (at least I think that's what song it was). I checked NinWiki and that part of the lyrics isn't in there... does anybody know what he says? Sorry if this information is readily available somewhere.
Are you sure it wasn't God Given?
Yes, thank you! Found the lyrics. I've listened to that song so many times and never noticed that part.
Bricklayer
amazing show! My 21st or 22nd NIN show. One of the best by far! Will see them tomorrow night in Philly!!!
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Master of the Ninth Arch
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Master of the Ninth Arch
bazz wrote:I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
I wonder if this was the same girl (or part of the same crew) with the tooth problem. I was in the bathroom during the show and heard a couple chicks come in and one was saying how a tooth got busted out of her mouth in the pit. Yikes.
Bricklayer
Reptileseven wrote:
bazz wrote:I was also in 120 premium pissed so bad I am trying to get a refund I didn't even enjoy the show. Trent seem energized, but I was also turned off by girl who had her head busted open I was more concerned about her the whole show and hope she was okay. So I am so mad about section 120 I never thought I would have such a view.
I wonder if this was the same girl (or part of the same crew) with the tooth problem. I was in the bathroom during the show and heard a couple chicks come in and one was saying how a tooth got busted out of her mouth in the pit. Yikes.
I kind of doubt that because this girl was out cold on the floor and taken away.
Bricklayer
Incredible show. Big fan since '89, but only my second show. Caught the Philly show of the club tour in 2005, which was great, but not the spectacle that this show was. Highlights for me were Reptile, The Big Comedown, Ghosts 31 and March of the Pigs (love the All the Pigs, All Lined Up ending). Like everyone else, I thought The Slip and YZ tracks were stellar live.

I brought my 13 year old son, who gave props to Echoplex and God Given, and proclaimed the NIN was now his favorite band after the show. It makes a father proud...
Master of the Ninth Arch
bazz wrote:
Reptileseven wrote: I wonder if this was the same girl (or part of the same crew) with the tooth problem. I was in the bathroom during the show and heard a couple chicks come in and one was saying how a tooth got busted out of her mouth in the pit. Yikes.
I kind of doubt that because this girl was out cold on the floor and taken away.
I was wondering what the heck happened. I saw one EMT run past in front of the stage, then another run past with a cart/stretcher sort of thing. They never came back the way they entered so I was thinking something really bad happened. Hope they're ok. Sucks to go to a concert and end up in a hospital.

Edit:

Also, according to a few videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3OWgYO6VP0

there is a full video recording out there of the show. No idea if this person is a trader or if they're asking for money. If you have it or can get it (I would but to say I have a lack of money is a LARGE understatement) please share it!
Grand Pontiff
funny things I saw from sitting side stage:

1. I didn't know this but Josh just completely bounces during the YZ set of The Warning and Vessel

2. During Discipline Robin walked around the back of the stage behind all the screens and then he went back to the front to finish the song, also he left the stage once or twice throughout the show

3. Trent has someone videotaping him during Greater Good, maybe it was Rob

Overall great crowd and great set list, wish no one would scream during hurt but that maybe impossible when beer is involved, lets keep our fingers crossed they are using this show for a dvd or MTV special
Grand Pontiff
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:Also, according to a few videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3OWgYO6VP0

there is a full video recording out there of the show. No idea if this person is a trader or if they're asking for money. If you have it or can get it (I would but to say I have a lack of money is a LARGE understatement) please share it!
I seen this earlier and sent an email. I'll post the response here when I receive it. :)
Master of the Ninth Arch
Alright I think I'm ready to properly comment on the show.

This was my first NIN show since '94/'95 when I caught them twice(once at MSG, and once at the Nassau Coliseum).

Watched from Section 125. Went to the show with four of my peoples, only one of which is an NIN fan(and a causal one at that, hasn't bought an album since The Fragile), and one who doesn't even really listen to any type of rock.

(It was my friends who totally spotted crazy soundboard guy with his shirt off rocking out to every song).

Our section was good, everybody stood up as soon as 999,999 came on.

Immediately, as soon as 1,000,000 started up I was shocked at how you could feel Freese's kick drum thump under your feet. Crazy.

Unless you're a hardcore fan the show starts a little awkwardly until you get to 'Discipline'.

Terrible Lie would be awesome if it was re-installed as the opener, and then 1,000,000 was played.

TL still fucking rocks hard, and gets even the most marginal of fans fucking
amped.

Once you hit March of the Pigs things fly.

The quieter chorus to Head Down makes sense when you see it live. That song is awesome, and the TR outro on the static piano machine things was awesome IMHO(my friends didn't like it).

The Frail into Reptile was a fucking huge surprise. I was turning to the people I was with as soon as the intro to Reptile started and was saying 'Oh, shit! It's Reptile!'

They didn't know what I was talking about.

Trent and Robin got into it with each other, staring at each other a couple of times during that song.

That song is still as hypnotic live now as it was 14 years ago. It just grinds and grinds . . .

By now all my friends were fucking mesmerized(which made me happy) and then the one song everybody knows- 'Closer' came on and almost everybody I could see was dancing.

'Gave Up' is still the shit. "Smashed up my sanity, smashed up what's left of me, smashed up my world to pieces . . ." Anyone who says this song should be dropped from the set list is on crack.

Then to 'The Warning' and 'Vessel'.

Three of my friends used this time to go to the bathroom(the one who stayed was the other NIN fan).

I absolutely loved 'The Warning'. Awesome.

However, 'Vessel' was kind of hard to digest for me. It was slow, and noisy. I know a lot of ETS people love that song and are probably gonna kill me, but it wasn't my thing. However, my friend who I was with fucking loved, LOVED, LOVED it. She was really into the red screen and the tv visuals and stuff. After the show she said she's gotta get YZ just on the strength of that song, so who knows . . .

The Ghosts stuff is amazing visually, but it feels like the show slows down almost too much for too long. Some of my friends got into it, some got bored.

Also, behind all the screens you couldn't see all the great musicianship that was going on onstage(at least from where I was).

But Ghosts Piggy is real fucking cool.

Pinion into Wish is almost like when they use one of those shock machines in a hospital to resuscitate someone who's flat lined.

I thought it might be time to retire 'Wish', but it still works to revive the crowd, and it sounds great live(not live on a bootleg, but live in-person).

Then there was Terrible Lie, which was my personal highlight of the night.

The whole arena got into that one and the visuals make it look like the stage has descended into hell.

You've gotta go see the tour just for this song.

Pretty much from TL on everything is amazing. The Big Comedown's swinging lights, the lights during 'Only', the screens during 'Survivalism'.

I don't even really like 'THTF' but it sounded really good(I was surprised how many people got into that one).

Of course 'HLAH' destroys everything.

The encore was AWESOME.

Even after seeing the 'Echoplex' screens on video 800 times before the concert it was still cool to see them live. I like The Good Soldier so I was into that song.

Trent's speech kind of set up 'Hurt'.

I've never been as into that song as most people. I remember when I saw it live way back on the TSD tour and it was awesome because of the visuals, but that the song itself never had the emotional impact for me it has for other people.
(BTW, the video for 'Hurt' is what made one of my friends decide to come after he saw it on YouTube the night before the concert).

But last night, that song is emotional. It's great, and I'm amazed how after performing it so many times for so many years it's able to carry an entire arena like that. It definitely touched me. Awesome Trent! Just awesome.

BTW, everyone in my section was quiet during that song(except for the guy in the row in front of us who started getting restless and began jumping up and down).

I always liked 'God Given' and was dying to hear it live. It was really cool live.

And finally, 'In This Twilight' is just wow as the closer to the show. The songs comes off really sad against the backdrop.

You almost want to cry when the band starts walking off one-by-one, it's like you just really got connected with them over the past two-plus hours.

Summary:
If you count the number of times I used 'awesome' above you'll get the idea.

Each of my friends left saying it's the best concert they'd ever been to(and they've seen Radiohead and Pearl Jam this summer).

Personal Faves:
-Terrible Lie
-The Warning
-Gave Up
-Head Down
-Hurt
-In This Twilight
-Ghosts Piggy
-Echoplex
-Everything Else

Things you won't get/realize by watching YouTube videos of this concert:

-How thunderous Josh Freese's drums are.
-Robin Finck's awesomeness.
-How seizure inducing the strobe lights can actually be.
-How incredible the screen looks during the YZ to Ghosts segment.
-How hard Terrible Lie and Gave Up rock.
-How far Trent can throw shit.
-How fucking awesome an experience this concert is.

Trent, if you ever read this . . . thank you.
Grand Pontiff
RICHKEW wrote:(It was my friends who totally spotted crazy soundboard guy with his shirt off rocking out to every song)
I pointed him out to my girlfriend and said "now THAT'S a guy who loves his job!" :D
Bricklayer
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:
bazz wrote:
Reptileseven wrote: I wonder if this was the same girl (or part of the same crew) with the tooth problem. I was in the bathroom during the show and heard a couple chicks come in and one was saying how a tooth got busted out of her mouth in the pit. Yikes.
I kind of doubt that because this girl was out cold on the floor and taken away.
I was wondering what the heck happened. I saw one EMT run past in front of the stage, then another run past with a cart/stretcher sort of thing. They never came back the way they entered so I was thinking something really bad happened. Hope they're ok. Sucks to go to a concert and end up in a hospital.

Edit:

Also, according to a few videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3OWgYO6VP0

there is a full video recording out there of the show. No idea if this person is a trader or if they're asking for money. If you have it or can get it (I would but to say I have a lack of money is a LARGE understatement) please share it!
That real that guy actually goes to a lot of shows and tapes and sells them.
Master Traveler
SICK show! 4th time seeing NIN. Definitely blew my expectations. Didn't think they could ever top the visuals of the TDS tour. I was in VIP GA, a little left of center about 4 rows of people back.

Only annoying thing was this fat, seemingly retarded idiot pushing me and this cute girl next to me that i was talking to. He was even pushing during the mellow Ghosts tracks!

If she's reading this, props for telling him off and making him feel like a complete moron. Also, send me a message, I didn't get your name and I thought you were a really cool girl to chill with.
Master ad Vitam
best part o the concert:

"nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care. nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care....YUP!"
Master Traveler
fernandopassion wrote:best part o the concert:

"nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care. nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care....YUP!"
Agreed. XD. That was silly.
Master of the Ninth Arch
i was obviously happy to hear reptile

i did take alot of video, that could be it as well??
i will post the (unedited, due to lack of skills) video.
Master of the Ninth Arch
UmeMakoto wrote:
fernandopassion wrote:best part o the concert:

"nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care. nothing can stop me now 'cause i dont care anymore. nothing can stop me now, 'cause i dont care....YUP!"
Agreed. XD. That was silly.
Are you guys joking?????
Master ad Vitam
Curly21029 wrote:
RICHKEW wrote:(It was my friends who totally spotted crazy soundboard guy with his shirt off rocking out to every song)
I pointed him out to my girlfriend and said "now THAT'S a guy who loves his job!" :D
That guy fucking ruled! When my brother pointed him out, we were both kind of mesmerized/distracted from the stage (which is saying something at a show like this).
Master of the Ninth Arch
this was the best concert i have seen in my entire life. i say that with confidence. also, the last nin show i went to(WT tour), i had terrible seats and was w/ a party pooper. this time i went w/ my gf who had as much fun as i did. i was at the end of section 121 (closer to section 122.)

my only complaints are the assholes behind me, who had to announce their damn opinion about everything. during the whole ghosts section, the kermit the frog sounding motherfucker kept saying, "this is the intermisiion. ha ha! (repeat.)" and the bitch he was with yelled out, "this song sucks" as Vessel started.

i thought my head was going to explode during the final minute of Gave Up. (the light show and the INCREDIBLE! sound amazed me.)

this show (with so-so seats) def beat my Front row seats at Marlyin Manson, this past january. the only benefit to being in front row at Manson is being able to see his new found beer belly (and him trying to cover it up w/ his XXL rock n' roll t shirt.)

i really hope this tour gets a proper Blu-Ray release.
Bricklayer
Still soaking it all in...would have posted sooner but really wanted to keep the experience to myself a little longer. 4th NIN show, first time on the GA floor. I was about 5 rows behind the rail and between Robin and Trent for most of the night, then got scooted more towards the center during the last half of the show when a crowd surfer came through (okay it was a girl who got sick). In all, the view and energy was spectacular, the GA crowd was nicer than I was expecting. That's not to say that I didn't have to work to keep my spot. 5'3" and 110 lbs, I'm just glad I had the endurance to hold down my spot and maintain a view (between the shoulders of a bunch of taller dudes, but it doesn't matter because I could still see).

Robin's eyes are fierce. He has great stage presence and I love his attitude towards the music. He looks like he's having lots of fun up there.

Josh Freese's drum solo in Piggy came out soo clearly. You could still hear the main beat but the rest of the time the percussion just went crazy. Controlled chaos--so talented!

Trent had so much energy--he was dark and intense and just kicked ass. His speech is exactly how I think about music and I too found myself in tears during Hurt--had an emotional conversation with my sister earlier that day and the song brought me back to it. I do believe music is one of the most real forms out there to communicate and relate to others, and this concert confirmed that.

I have a new appreciation for the piano parts in MOTP. They were always fun and musical theater-esque, but the crowd really responded to the breaks in the music and would stop the pushing and whatever moshing took place that, in turn, gave us smaller people a chance to take a breath. The connection between the crowd and the music was unbelievably strong. Sure some people say the pit was tame, but it's just the way the music came across -- still powerful but not gratuitously out of control and with a
more matured sound--and the crowd responded to that.

Ghosts--would have enjoyed it more had the guys behind me not start oogling loudly over Alessandros' equipment, but the overall effect of the slow middle portion was such that it made the finale that much more spectacular.

Loved Gave Up, In this Twilight, Echoplex, REPTILE, Survivalism, Terrible Lie... loved it ALL.

As an aside, I'm constantly amazed at how Trent pushes the boundaries between rock and classical. The performances of The Warning and Vessel were amazing in this sense--loud and rock but so well-coordinated that it was like an orchestra performance. I laughed during this segment when TR and Robin seemed to be coordinating dance moves, kicking their legs up and turning to the side. For the skeptics who haven't yet discovered Trent's ingenuity, perhaps one day there will be a Ghosts-only tour and then who's to judge about the musical caliber of NIN?

The anthropologist in me can go on and on analyzing social dynamics, gender dynamics in the pit--but I'll stop there.

Next time, I'm aiming for the rail. Can't wait to experience it all again!!!!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
gorny540 wrote:funny things I saw from sitting side stage:
3. Trent has someone videotaping him during Greater Good, maybe it was Rob
that was for the effects on the screen, at first I didn't realize it but then saw that it was showing a really distorted vision of trent's closeup singing.
Master Traveler
my 4th nin show..... fucking awesome id say the 2nd best after the queens of the stone age death from above nin concert at msg!!!! then of course comes the jones beach 06 show!!!!!!!!

i miss burn and deal souls :-\


god given and reptile where amazing!!!!!!!!!!

the lights where amazing.......trents words good as always



:-D

go section 126!
Master Traveler
...right and i would just like to add the background for piggy was NUTS!

so was josh!!!!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
Wow, I feel like I'll be the last to respond!

"Welcome to Izod center! It is arena policy that you please do not bring into the arena: food, beverages, coolers, backpacks, large bags, briefcases, laser pointers, and any other items deemed inappropriate by meadowlands management. Management deserves the right to conduct the voluntary search of any persons seeking admissions into the arena. Persons may refuse the search, however such refusal will be grounds for prohibited admission into the arena. Patrons holding general admissions floor tickets must enter through the box office lobby located between gates A and D. Patrons should be aware that tickets from anauthorized sources may be counterfeit and will not be accepted. Guests are reminded that the arena is a completely smoke free facility. Patrons holding general admissions floor tickets must enter through the box office lobby located between gates A and D. Thank you for your cooperation and enjoy your visit to Izod center!" Who else enjoyed hearing this announcement repeated every minute from 3:30pm until we were let in? :-/ We heard it at least 180 times at top volume. I'm sure playing it every 15 minutes would have been just as well.

And does anyone know what all those people were doing in the parking garage looking into the venue? Tailgating? Waiting to come in until after DIOYY? Treating themselves to somewhat of a free show, music wise?

Also, this was my first time at the Izod Arena and I'm sure it's my last. I bought floor tickets nearly last minute on ebay because the Worcester show was postponed and I'm impatient. I noticed it said "back GA" and as that was all that was available, I went for it - plus, the person told me there was no physical barrier, and that if there was, he's gotten through. We wait in line and people tell us there is a physical barrier set up, splitting the floor in two. I was still on the positive side - how are they going to know we got back GA? The people who come in late will get back GA. Whatever I could think to make it seem like we're ok. Me and my friend were the first 5 people in the GA line, got there at 1pm. We get in the venue, and they seperate us. I see the regular floor get orange bracelettes, we got green. And we were stopped and moved to the back GA. Me and my friend were completely devastated. People around us were complaining too. The security guard told us that they usually don't do this for concerts. Bruce Springstein had back GA, but they didn't put the barricade up. He then goes on to say "your kind of music needs a back GA. All the moshpits and the crowd surfing and the crushing... etc" Way to judge. From what I saw, the floor was pretty tame. What I don't get is, all the action happens up front anyway! People escape the front of the floor to the back if they want to chill out and watch the show. If you buy floor tickets, I assume you know what you're getting into. If floor ppl don't like it, they move!The back barricade is completely useless. If they moved it up a bit more, perhaps that could disrupt the "moshing" and prove an easier time for the security guards to their job. These people really just don't want to do their job. They want to sit back and make fun of DIOYY (I didn't appreciate that.) If there HAS to be a backGA why not make it first come first serve? You show up late, you get booted to the back GA. Or you choose the back GA. What sucked more was seeing the massive gap between our back barricade and the last row of people in the VIP floor. We all could have easily fit in there with plenty of room to spare.

On the bright side, we did get to see the entire stage show, straight on, no angles, and closer than the people who had seats behind us. We got to jump around and have a little action. I was surrounded by cool people, and this one guy behind me I'm pretty sure had his mind blown over and over again (as were my friend and I of course!) While I do prefer my shows as close to the front as possible, at least I got to experience this live, which is always better than youtube videos. Always. We managed to have an amazing time and enjoyed ourselves and only NIN's show can do that - I believe they know how to treat an entire arena and not just the first rows on the floor.

There's nothing I can add that's already been said, I don't think. I had my digicam going during Frail, expecting either Closer or Wretched - you can see my excitement when Reptile started in my YouTube video as I'm pretty sure we're the first show to get that combination. I apologize haha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulx8LCCGcLs

I want to know if I saw things correctly - during Survivalism (which is AMAZING live, I prefer it over the song itself!) did some guy kiss another guy on the back of the head while he was taking a piss? And I was laughing at the guy desperately trying to find the camera near the end of the song.

I giggled at Trent's little "Yep!" at that Piggy line. I loved that Trent was chatty. The setlist was amazing, so much Year Zero! I'd trade Warning for Great Destroyer as it's my least favorite NIN song and hearing it live did not change my opinion all that much. I loved how bright and chaotic Gave Up was via lights and how it had that wobbly effect. The interactiveness of the stageshow was amazing, I feel bad for the previous crowd not getting it.

A broken screen tile!:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAbRbaH1v28 - ITT

I might come back and edit more to this, or add another post. I'm at work and haven't been on my computer back at home to properly update about this in my LJ or anything.

3 times is not enough! I can't wait to see them again on Nov 8th and 9th! And hopefully front and center in the FIRST, FRONT barricade! :-P
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Bricklayer
OK.....

Show......sick!!

Izod Center and Music Today.......SUCK!

I get to the Will Call to pick up my tix and they tell me they can't find them!! Mind you, I'm bugging out at this point and the Izod employees are very non-challant. I was PISSED! Finally, someone comes over and hands me a receipt....A FUCKING RECEIPT! (see attached). No souvenir tickets, NOTHING......

I looked at them like they had 15 heads! Every usher I showed my "receipt" to looked at me like I had 15 heads.....

I sent an email to Music Today expressing my concern and the responses I got were:

Subject* Lost Tickets * Discussion Thread* * Response (Rob)* 08/29/2008

We apologize you were unable to obtain physical tickets for the show.
> However, we are only the online ticket providers for the Fan Community and
> do not print the tickets at our facility.
>
>
> Thank you,

WHAAAAAT?! I replied.....and this is what I got back.....

This is the first instance in the entire tour we have heard of the venue losing tickets. We are glad to hear that you were still able to attend the show with vouchers.

So, then I just get blown off?!?! FUCK MUSIC TODAY, FUCK IZOD!!

Thank you Trent, for a phenomenal show......as always.

I have 2 more shows where I bought pre-sale tix. Lets see what happens....i'm nervous, wouldn't you be?

Philly tonight!!! :)
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Grand Pontiff
hboy41 wrote:go section 126!
Where were your seats?
Master Traveler
More Videos:

march of the pigs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJiwt7jC7c
closer pt 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYQVAM74HE
closer pt 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcL-Hl1bMn8
gave up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gQ89Zv-y_k
ghosts, piggy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JTBzld5Jo0
wish, terrible lie - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_kXsan6GCc [AWESOME]

I have a few more uploading now [including a really great 3 minutes of "big comedown" from the vip ga pit]. the rest will be on my youtube account: http://www.youtube.com/user/kh863

Peace!
Bricklayer
TianaL85 wrote:Wow, I feel like I'll be the last to respond!

"Welcome to Izod center! It is arena policy that you please do not bring into the arena: food, beverages, coolers, backpacks, large bags, briefcases, laser pointers, and any other items deemed inappropriate by meadowlands management. Management deserves the right to conduct the voluntary search of any persons seeking admissions into the arena. Persons may refuse the search, however such refusal will be grounds for prohibited admission into the arena. Patrons holding general admissions floor tickets must enter through the box office lobby located between gates A and D. Patrons should be aware that tickets from anauthorized sources may be counterfeit and will not be accepted. Guests are reminded that the arena is a completely smoke free facility. Patrons holding general admissions floor tickets must enter through the box office lobby located between gates A and D. Thank you for your cooperation and enjoy your visit to Izod center!" Who else enjoyed hearing this announcement repeated every minute from 3:30pm until we were let in? :-/ We heard it at least 180 times at top volume. I'm sure playing it every 15 minutes would have been just as well.
That was very annoying. I only heard it for 15 minutes while picking up my ticket.
TianaL85 wrote:And does anyone know what all those people were doing in the parking garage looking into the venue? Tailgating? Waiting to come in until after DIOYY? Treating themselves to somewhat of a free show, music wise?
Tailgating ... nothing new. I was in that mix for a bit.
Bricklayer
yeah that looping message was damn annoying. I also saw that broken part of the screen and was praying that they wouldn't stop using the screens or something.
Master of the Ninth Arch
flypaper wrote:OK.....

Show......sick!!

Izod Center and Music Today.......SUCK!

I get to the Will Call to pick up my tix and they tell me they can't find them!! Mind you, I'm bugging out at this point and the Izod employees are very non-challant. I was PISSED! Finally, someone comes over and hands me a receipt....A FUCKING RECEIPT! (see attached). No souvenir tickets, NOTHING......
Wow, that really sucks. Makes you wonder if someone who works at the IZOD didn't take the tickets. I think you will be fine for the rest for your shows, though. And there should be a way that someone (not sure who?) could get you a copy of the real tickets, because they are really sweet. See ya in Philly!!

Oh, and that looping annoucement was sooo annoying. Especially because I had been drinking, had to pee, and my husband insisted on standing in a line a mile long to use the ATM. He was just bittter because I got to drink on the drive up :)
Master Traveler
Curly21029 i was in row 26....

if you where in the section im sure u could smell where i was sitting ;-)



GO NIN!

just put a NIN sticker on the back of my car woohoo
Grand Pontiff
Wow, I don't even know what to say about the show that hasn't been said, and I'm glad I had similar experiences to most people here!
I was in the back GA up against the left rail with my friend - great position to watch..although during Ghosts 31 an actual fight broke out between two or three guys, anybody witness this? Security had to pull people away, they almost crushed my female friend.
I made pals with some guy right next to me, tricked out in a jersey and gold chains and rings, who knew ALL the words to With Teeth songs and was smoking pot the whole time. I agree that the concert was very "bro'd" out, but I feel that the NY/NJ venue attracted all kinds of people and fans.
IMO the song that people went craziest for was Pinion/Wish.
Haha some guy thought that Echoplex was just a post-concert soundcheck. Of course there was the "can I buy a vowel?!" joke.
A couple of screams during Hurt, but during the second verse, you could practically hear a pin drop in between lyrics - amazing power and influence the man's art has, huh?
Awesome concert - great setlist - awesome EVERYTHING. I personally went crazy because for months I was wishing to here Reptile live..
Master of the Ninth Arch
JoplinPicasso wrote:IMO the song that people went craziest for was Pinion/Wish. Haha some guy thought that Echoplex was just a post-concert soundcheck. Of course there was the "can I buy a vowel?!" joke.
A couple of screams during Hurt, but during the second verse, you could practically hear a pin drop in between lyrics - amazing power and influence the man's art has, huh?
I thought that Pinion/Wish was more of a wake-up call/relief/getting back into the show kind of thing, but it definitely got crazy. I thought Terrible Lie was where things got wild.

I thought the Echoplex screens were gonna be corny after seeing it a bunch of times on YouTube, but it really is cool live. It wows the shit out of marginal fans who are at the show.

I'm amazed how intense it got during Hurt. I heard one scream, that's all. It was like people were hypnotized, and gonna fuck up anybody who ruined it. Great part of the show.

I can't believe one man can grab the attention of an audience like that, with minimal light effects. Especially with a song he's performed 8 million times. That truly is special.

It was like you felt he was performing it more for him than for us. And that is cool.
Master of the Ninth Arch
JoplinPicasso wrote:IMO the song that people went craziest for was Pinion/Wish. Haha some guy thought that Echoplex was just a post-concert soundcheck. Of course there was the "can I buy a vowel?!" joke.
A couple of screams during Hurt, but during the second verse, you could practically hear a pin drop in between lyrics - amazing power and influence the man's art has, huh?
Sadly, I made that joke in Knoxville
Haha. These shows are turning into a Rocky Horror experience.
I remember someone pulling their shirt off for Discipline
And a entire group of people freaked out when he brought out the tambourine

- c.
Bricklayer
I was in the vip Ga section front and center and I gotta say I HATED the people around me. At one point this girl was surfed to the front, completely limp and motionless and nobody even tried to really help her towards the rail. And then her boyfriend tried to get up to go over and the super bitches up front didn't want to help because god forbid they lost their spot. So i help the guy up and carry him forward and, sucks to be them, got up against the barrier in the process. Being nice helps sometimes. DIOYY were fantastic. LOVED the old school rad style skate shorts on the one singer guy. It's a shame the people around me were
too stuck up to actually give the band a chance and listen to them instead of just look at it as time wasted waiting for trent to come out...
btw impressions of trent up close, very short guy whom looks like he's been doing ALOT of lifting.

The merch prices were ridiculous. 35 was the cheapest shirt. 70 for a sweatshirt.. 35 for a hat.. 15 for fucking like 6 buttons? 15 for a poster? i know the band has their price and the venue then jacks up the price for their percentage but this was ridiculous. And the bootlegs they had in the parking lot sucked. It looked like the perfect circle logo with nin written in the middle..
Grand Pontiff
I now feel sad I didn't get down to Philly tonight so god knows when I'll see them again, I don't get it if Trent showed how this was a very important show for them why not another show in the area next leg
Master of the Ninth Arch
gorny540 wrote:I now feel sad I didn't get down to Philly tonight so god knows when I'll see them again, I don't get it if Trent showed how this was a very important show for them why not another show in the area next leg
i agree another show in ny/nj would have been cool. msg. ny
Bricklayer
Awesome show. My first time seeing Robin in the band. I am trying to get some pictures up on here but it will not let me upload, I'm guessing the file size is too big? I will try putting them up on webshots though. Here is most of Survivalism that I caught with my digicam, more clips to come-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKsmavHO4c
Bricklayer
Tiana,
That's one hell of a story :D. I've been working on mine also. I'm glad your time became better as the night went on. I was about 20 ft. behind you. Hopefully the next show will be better for you.

*
TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
Master of the Ninth Arch
TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
I was totally right next to you the entire show. I was the girl with the hair.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Starman wrote:Tiana,
That's one hell of a story :D. I've been working on mine also. I'm glad your time became better as the night went on. I was about 20 ft. behind you. Hopefully the next show will be better for you.

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TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
I have a problem with writing, haha. I'm glad it got better too, I honestly thought I'd be mad the entire time. I hope me and my friend weren't the only ones whiny about getting back GA, now that I think of it haha. Let us know when yours is posted. I love reading other people's versions.
Silly Putty wrote:
TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
I was totally right next to you the entire show. I was the girl with the hair.
The girl with the hair? All I know is, I felt bad for whoever was near me because of my screams turning high-pitched and my jumpiness.

-- I think you were legit next to me! Wow, small world.

Also, this person couldn't be any more wrong about the setlist --> http://blog.sasebastian.com/2008/08/30/ ... er-aug-27/ Is this a joke?
Grand Pontiff
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

what an idiot and he called it the Johnny Cash rendition of hurt, what the fuck is that supposed to mean, it's trent's song anyway plus he labels himself as like a diehard fan

anyways

any news on a recording or the filming of the show
Grand Pontiff
gorny540 wrote:any news on a recording or the filming of the show
I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Curly21029 wrote: I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
Thank you once again for doing this. Hopefully he's not charging an arm and a leg for it.
Grand Pontiff
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:
Curly21029 wrote: I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
Thank you once again for doing this. Hopefully he's not charging an arm and a leg for it.
Whatever. I just want this deal to come through! :) (pending we don't find a freebie first)
Grand Pontiff
Curly21029 wrote:
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:
Curly21029 wrote: I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
Thank you once again for doing this. Hopefully he's not charging an arm and a leg for it.
Whatever. I just want this deal to come through! :) (pending we don't find a freebie first)
no, I'm not talking about that dirtbag didn't someone say earlier that there were a couple pro cameras there for a possible mtv special or dvd
Grand Pontiff
TianaL85 wrote:
Starman wrote:Tiana,
That's one hell of a story :D. I've been working on mine also. I'm glad your time became better as the night went on. I was about 20 ft. behind you. Hopefully the next show will be better for you.

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TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
I have a problem with writing, haha. I'm glad it got better too, I honestly thought I'd be mad the entire time. I hope me and my friend weren't the only ones whiny about getting back GA, now that I think of it haha. Let us know when yours is posted. I love reading other people's versions.
Silly Putty wrote:
TianaL85 wrote:My novel has been posted, haha. I apologize ahead of time for all the complaining about the back GA.

http://antisocialxgrl.livejournal.com/416093.html
I was totally right next to you the entire show. I was the girl with the hair.
The girl with the hair? All I know is, I felt bad for whoever was near me because of my screams turning high-pitched and my jumpiness.

-- I think you were legit next to me! Wow, small world.

Also, this person couldn't be any more wrong about the setlist --> http://blog.sasebastian.com/2008/08/30/ ... er-aug-27/ Is this a joke?
thats hilarious, wat an idiot
Master of the Ninth Arch
gorny540 wrote: no, I'm not talking about that dirtbag didn't someone say earlier that there were a couple pro cameras there for a possible mtv special or dvd
Last night in Philly I spoke to someone who apparently knew much more then I did. Turns out it was for some sort of Apple commercial or something. We'll see I guess. I just hope we get more then a few seconds of footage.

Though it would be cool to have my face in an apple commercial.
Bricklayer
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:
gorny540 wrote: no, I'm not talking about that dirtbag didn't someone say earlier that there were a couple pro cameras there for a possible mtv special or dvd
Last night in Philly I spoke to someone who apparently knew much more then I did. Turns out it was for some sort of Apple commercial or something. We'll see I guess. I just hope we get more then a few seconds of footage.

Though it would be cool to have my face in an apple commercial.
Now THAT would be awesome.
Bricklayer
Curly21029 wrote:
gorny540 wrote:any news on a recording or the filming of the show
I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
How much is he asking for.
Grand Pontiff
Bruno2k5 wrote:
Curly21029 wrote:
gorny540 wrote:any news on a recording or the filming of the show
I contacted the dude on YouTube and he replied with a confirmation of a full product and the price he'd like to charge. I'll suck it up and buy the thing, but only if it doesn't have his fucking email address tattooed all over it like the YouTube samples. I'm currently awaiting his reply.
How much is he asking for.
$20 and $5 for shipping. :/

Edit: No watermark! Bought and paid for!

I'll post back when I have an ETA!
Master of the Ninth Arch
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:Last night in Philly I spoke to someone who apparently knew much more then I did. Turns out it was for some sort of Apple commercial or something. We'll see I guess. I just hope we get more then a few seconds of footage.
Man, all that awesome footage for just an Apple Commercial...now that would be a crime.
Grand Pontiff
Monstersnrock20 wrote:Uploaded Closer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVL0lT3_y9Y
Great job dude ... i love your angle and camera work.... wanna put a High Quality version of "closer" up like you did for survivalism? that would be so awsome.
Bricklayer
Here are some pictures I took, these pictures are at 9 megapixel. Half my shots at full zoom were out of focus from so much movement but the ones that came out great are really nice. As for a higher quality version of closer, for some reason youtube is taking forever for me to upload anything over 100mb I tried uploading the 5 min clip of Piggy I have and it was taking forever so thats why I opted for a lower quality mpeg.
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Bricklayer
Curly21029 wrote:$20 and $5 for shipping. :/

Edit: No watermark! Bought and paid for!

I'll post back when I have an ETA!
Nice! Any chance you can upload onto Dime once you have it? :)

Luis
Master of the Ninth Arch
do you guys know if anyone has found the ' ? ' in NYC yet? i dont exactly know where to look for the answer to this in the forum
Grand Pontiff
Luiggi wrote:
Curly21029 wrote:$20 and $5 for shipping. :/

Edit: No watermark! Bought and paid for!

I'll post back when I have an ETA!
Nice! Any chance you can upload onto Dime once you have it? :)

Luis
what are you guys talking about , is there any bootlegs for this show yet?
Master of the Ninth Arch
DaveMuzik85 wrote: what are you guys talking about , is there any bootlegs for this show yet?
There is a video someone is selling on youtube. Curly21029 is working on getting a copy. I thought someone mentioned an audio recording. Hopefully that will be coming soon too.
Grand Pontiff
Luiggi wrote:
Curly21029 wrote:$20 and $5 for shipping. :/

Edit: No watermark! Bought and paid for!

I'll post back when I have an ETA!
Nice! Any chance you can upload onto Dime once you have it? :)
Isn't that implied at this point. ;)
Bricklayer
Curly21029 wrote:Isn't that implied at this point. ;)
Just wanted to make sure, :).

Luis
Knight of the Royal Axe
^^^
he said he's also got philly ;)
Prince Adept
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/ ... rip116.jpg

I took quite a few videos from behind the soundboard at this show. All I recall was that Reptile was mammoth! Yeah, that was one I captured. I'll upload 'em in the coming days.
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Grand Pontiff
ThinkIcouldburn wrote:
DaveMuzik85 wrote: what are you guys talking about , is there any bootlegs for this show yet?
There is a video someone is selling on youtube. Curly21029 is working on getting a copy. I thought someone mentioned an audio recording. Hopefully that will be coming soon too.
ok, well when its avaiable on dime i hope someone will make it known in this thread that its up and avaible. thanx it would be much appreciated ;)
Master of the Ninth Arch
Thanks in advance for buying the bootleg, Curly21029. It's very generous and people like myself at the show as well as NIN fans looking for downloadable bootlegs in general are in your debt. : )
Bricklayer
As one of those sweaty dudes who saw the Lollapallooza show at Waterloo with all the dust and bees, all I can say is goddamn.

I gotta get a band
Master ad Vitam
Ok was at this and the philly show- just got home yesterday!

Was with friend and we were 2nd person in from the rail dead center in front of trent.

Though I liked philly better this was a Awesome show--Could not believe how amazing reptile was live, along with all the Year Zero songs. Big come down was my favourite live song until reptile. The light show cannot be beaten. Trent had boundless energy, and seemed happy and being so close he was super fun too look at too :).

bad part about this-The fucking front pit sucked. Ok im a girl but im fairly tall and so is my friend and ok fine its mostly guys around. Call me a wuss but I usually can stand my own ground in mosh pits but this was fucking insane. The crush If the two large motherfuckers who kept bum rushing the people behind me and then came up next to me attempting to put me in the choke hold yelling "FEEL THE CRUSH" I hope you enjoyed the punch to the face repeatedly. That was my thank you with 12 years of karate behind it. But im still pissed I had to move back a little my spot was amazing.

otherwise I liked trent being chatty,fuck everything was great

Hi to
Fernandopassion
Siriusdoll
Splitlip
tinadoll

you guys made the all day wait fun
Bricklayer
So remember how someone was saying there were Apple people shooting footage at the Izod show? Apple is having an event in CA just after this segment of NIN's tour ends. Maybe I'm just tired, but it seems like a funny coincidence. Are they adding another stop to the tour?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Just so everyone knows, I went to five shows on this tour (MA would've made six) including both IZOD and Philly, and although I liked the Philly set list a little better, the IZOD beats Philly easily. This was largely due to crowd, but not exclusively. So thank you North Jersey/NYC fans.
Grand Pontiff
^^^^^^
That right there makes me feel better because all I heard was how the Philly show was better, but really all they got that made me jealous was Down In It
Grand Pontiff
lukasjudge wrote:Just so everyone knows, I went to five shows on this tour (MA would've made six) including both IZOD and Philly, and although I liked the Philly set list a little better, the IZOD beats Philly easily. This was largely due to crowd, but not exclusively. So thank you North Jersey/NYC fans.
The crowd is always into Head Like a Hole, but I NEVER heard them overpower the band like that. I looked around and everyone I seen (with the exception of my girlfriend who didn't know the song) was singing along. The atmosphere during Hurt was also the best I've ever been a part of.
Master of the Ninth Arch
theevilgumby wrote: bad part about this-The fucking front pit sucked. Ok im a girl but im fairly tall and so is my friend and ok fine its mostly guys around. Call me a wuss but I usually can stand my own ground in mosh pits but this was fucking insane. The crush If the two large motherfuckers who kept bum rushing the people behind me and then came up next to me attempting to put me in the choke hold yelling "FEEL THE CRUSH" I hope you enjoyed the punch to the face repeatedly. That was my thank you with 12 years of karate behind it. But im still pissed I had to move back a little my spot was amazing.
I agree with you about the crowd. I am still pissed because it was an amazing show and I had to put up with the assholes in the front of the pit. I know I've posted pretty much the same thing already in this thread, but I still get angry thinking about it. I was a few people to the right of center and about 4 people back, and the motherfuckers behind really deserve to die. There were so many cool people in the front trying to enjoy the show and those idiots just wanted to go around and assault us.

I really wish security would have done something about them, but they basically stood there all night. I thought most of the Wachovia staff sucked. They harrassed a really cool girl I met in line (hi Jess if you are lurking) a few times, tried to tell the people around me in the presale line that they had to go to the regular line b/c they didn't have GA tix, and once we got inside and were standing in line, this bitch tried to tell me I couldn't use the restroom that was 10 feet away from me. I couldn't really see the security in front, but I don't think they were giving water to anyone and didn't seem the least bit concerned that assholes were running rampant through the front pit, harrassing everyone.

And I am still pissed that I eventually gave up my spot to those douchebags yelling "123 push" because they put me in a headlock, too. I was having such a great time before they came up to the front. Fuck them and karma is a bitch. So glad to hear you punched the assholes near you. I think assholes were targeting the girls, thinking that we were easy targets, but I managed to fight them off for about 5 songs before I decided to give it up because I wasn't enjoying the show anymore.
Bricklayer
This show has left such a bad taste in my mouth; I am just now beginning to calm down about it. First I would like to thank the idiots with the difficult task of putting wristbands on for giving me the wrong wristband even though you had both colors in your hands. I enjoy waiting for hours just so I can get up close and then having you dumb fucks ruin it all. And when I find you to tell you that you fucked up you just stand there and look at me like I have three heads. Thank god you people are so incompetent that you did this to many people because you sure as shit didn't react or care when I brought the issue up. So a big fuck you Izod. And as a result I had the pleasure of getting the prize spot next to the huge douche bags that only wanted to kill everyone near them. I enjoy having a mammoth of a man look at the 5'5" 125 pound girl before them, and then taking their other mammoth of friend and swinging them directly into my face. I can handle the pit. I have done it numerous times. I love it and would rather be nowhere else at a Nine Inch Nails show. But I just do not understand why go to a show if the only thing you want to do is kick people's faces in. And every time I tried to move away, you fuckers seemed to find your way to me and kick my ass some more. I could not escape. It all just sucked. And it is of no fault of the band, who put on a kick as show. I was just unable to enjoy it when I was having the living shit kicked out of me everywhere I went. I spent more time tying to move away from you guys then I did watching my favorite band. Eight shows, and this is unfortunately the worst one I have been to as of yet. Sucks because I loved the setlist, the band was tight and the lights and stage for this tour are just sick.
Master ad Vitam
dancingcorpse wrote:This show has left such a bad taste in my mouth; I am just now beginning to calm down about it. First I would like to thank the idiots with the difficult task of putting wristbands on for giving me the wrong wristband even though you had both colors in your hands. I enjoy waiting for hours just so I can get up close and then having you dumb fucks ruin it all. And when I find you to tell you that you fucked up you just stand there and look at me like I have three heads. Thank god you people are so incompetent that you did this to many people because you sure as shit didn't react or care when I brought the issue up. So a big fuck you Izod. And as a result I had the pleasure of getting the prize spot next to the huge douche bags that only wanted to kill everyone near them. I enjoy having a mammoth of a man look at the 5'5" 125 pound girl before them, and then taking their other mammoth of friend and swinging them directly into my face. I can handle the pit. I have done it numerous times. I love it and would rather be nowhere else at a Nine Inch Nails show. But I just do not understand why go to a show if the only thing you want to do is kick people's faces in. And every time I tried to move away, you fuckers seemed to find your way to me and kick my ass some more. I could not escape. It all just sucked. And it is of no fault of the band, who put on a kick as show. I was just unable to enjoy it when I was having the living shit kicked out of me everywhere I went. I spent more time tying to move away from you guys then I did watching my favorite band. Eight shows, and this is unfortunately the worst one I have been to as of yet. Sucks because I loved the setlist, the band was tight and the lights and stage for this tour are just sick.
yeah see this was my reason I was pissed at this plus I had grandpa zombie take 10 min putting a wristband on. This was my first NIN mosh pit (seen them seated and been in countless other pits for other bands). I had a kick ass spot 2nd person in, in front of Trent and I wanted to fucking keep it. And dont get me wrong I know how to fight I was in karate forever, and im used to pits. But right after "only" this guy kept attacking me after I didnt respond to "wow your hair smells good"comments. I am 5'7 and im normal weight, and I could handle the crush. The fight from behind I couldnt see or know where it was coming from , not so much. Motherfuckers pushing the center in and then attacking me cause I was the tallest girl in the area was fucking annoying. I feel bad for my friend who had to back up during ghosts and for the the shorter girl I gave a ride too who had this asshole wrap himself around her body then preceded to head bang like he was attacked by bees all concert. I was stupid and didnt eat much during the day. But fuck I wanna look at trent 5 five feet away, the band, and the lights not deal with some motherfucker deciding to elbow me in the temple/put me in headlock cause I was keeping the spot, grab my boobs, yell in my ear TRENT YOUR MY WET DREAM OVER AND OVER . The show was amazing even after I moved but fucked I wanna fucking kill that guy for making me move.

At least I punched him good.

But I still have a bruise on my head

if I ever see that fucking ginger asshole in a pit again, I got a good memory and remember your face, You gonna die...
Troll
theevilgumby wrote: But right after "only" this guy kept attacking me after I didnt respond to "wow your hair smells good"comments.
Wow.sucks for you. i had to deal with a big lesbian who wouldn't f**** move even after a tiny girl was fighting to keep the spot, which i had grabbed 1hr ahead of you! how does it feel jerk? push over someone your own size!!
but my night wasnt ruined,and neither was the next day! :)
Master of the Ninth Arch
theevilgumby wrote: You gonna die...
I'm sorry that just made me laugh so hard. Totally made me think of Robin Williams doing his Louisiana psychic impression.

6:06 in if you've never seen it.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xql2aNopsy8
Some people just go ape shit in the pit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCSgJNXKAvY

if you ever saw someone fall on their head dead from not being "caught" properly you'd know what I am talking about.

I don't know what you'd expect from a NIN pit....
Master of the Ninth Arch
Strong&Sweet wrote:Some people just go ape shit in the pit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCSgJNXKAvY

if you ever saw someone fall on their head dead from not being "caught" properly you'd know what I am talking about.

I don't know what you'd expect from a NIN pit....
Hence the real problem. Look at that video and tell me what is completely missing........ I'll give you a second.


Yes, that's right. There is not one female in that crowd of guys going nuts. I'm all for a pit going, but Nine Inch Nails is drawing a high percentage of women to their shows and it's not a nice thing to see these 300 pound mammoth men bouncing into women literally less then half their size.

Let's choose here....... Would you rather have 1,500 pounds of Woolly Mammoth looking men bouncing around half naked or a large group of women all enjoying the same sort of music you love.

I dunno about you but that is one easy choice.
oh, I got nothing against the ladies sharing the crazy floor...I just would never put myself out there and then complain about what happened afterwards...it is really hard to predict how the crowd is going to be sometimes and you just never know who you are going to end up sharing floor space with. If you want to take that chance to be up close then go for it! Afterall, it's not about batting eyelashes at the band.
Master of the Ninth Arch
True. I was against the railing stage right and felt comfortable the entire show. So I guess it was just certain people being a bit too aggressive.
Master of the Ninth Arch
I knew exactly what I was in for in the pit and I was fine for the first 5 or 6 songs. I just don't think its acceptable for stupid assholes, who imo, aren't really fans, to target girls to push through and attack. I held my own against these assholes for a while, but then I gave up because I wasn't able to enjoy the show. I am stilled pissed bc I really think the people that were causing all the problems up front werent there to really enjoy the show. It's just an excuse for them to attack other people and get out their frustrations and anger.

I understand that there's pushing, shoving, a major crush of people, and possible crowd surfers and mosh pits on the floor. I don't expect anyone to treat me differently because I am a girl. I am tough...I can take care of myself. BUT, i feel its just wrong for these guys to plan to target certain areas (ie, where there are a bunch of girls) to push their way to the stage. I don't think its acceptable for anyone to intentionally pull my hair, kick the back of my legs, pull my shirt down, punch me in my back, or put me in a headlock to get in front of me. Even when these guys were basically attacking me, I handled it myself, trying to elbow and push them back and finally, pushing my way out.

I am on the floor because that is how i choose to experience the show. I am not trying to get to the front to bat my eyelashes at bandmembers. I just think I should be able to enjoy the show without putting up with the shit I put up with.

I have to say, everyone in the front that was there from the start was awesome. I feel like everyone was looking out for one another, and that's the way it should be. I just wish the fratboy assholes would go find another outlet for their anger.
Bricklayer
Curly21029: Any luck with the Izod recording?

Luis
Grand Pontiff
Luiggi wrote:Curly21029: Any luck with the Izod recording?

Luis
I just emailed him today requesting an update. It's been a week since I paid him. I would think that it would've shipped by now...

Edit: PlatinumOrgy's pics are AWESOME!!! :D THANK YOU!!!

Double Edit: I got a response. He says that it should be another week until the menus are created and the "optimization" is finished. Here's hoping that it's worth the wait.
Bricklayer
Any update from this bootlegger? It's been a week.
Grand Pontiff
Bruno2k5 wrote:Any update from this bootlegger? It's been a week.
stop bugging the guy. I'm sure he'll let us know once he gets it.
Bricklayer
What's the latest on this?
Bricklayer
the bootlegger lied... there is no recording
Grand Pontiff
mikedoggy wrote:the bootlegger lied... there is no recording
According to whom? Sorry I'm late responding to this.

As far as I know, the taper is sitting on the fucker and attempting to make more sales before he sends them out. It's a dick move, but he must know that it will hit all the major torrent sites once it's released into the wild.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Curly21029 wrote: According to whom? Sorry I'm late responding to this.

As far as I know, the taper is sitting on the fucker and attempting to make more sales before he sends them out. It's a dick move, but he must know that it will hit all the major torrent sites once it's released into the wild.
What a douche nozzle.
Knight of the Royal Axe
Curly21029 wrote:
mikedoggy wrote:the bootlegger lied... there is no recording
According to whom? Sorry I'm late responding to this.

As far as I know, the taper is sitting on the fucker and attempting to make more sales before he sends them out. It's a dick move, but he must know that it will hit all the major torrent sites once it's released into the wild.
so he's waiting for the right time to make his 20 bucks? :) or he gathers orders?
Grand Pontiff
The Izod boot was received yesterday. After some editing, it's now ready for download here.

Sorry for the delay, but it was much more of a pain in the ass than I anticipated.
Bricklayer
awww man I couldnt wait for this now I cant DL it...

what about those of us without dime accounts...?
Grand Pontiff
mikedoggy wrote:awww man I couldnt wait for this now I cant DL it...

what about those of us without dime accounts...?
Dime gets it first because it's simply the best boot sharing community. You could get an account the same way we all did: keep clicking over and over until it lets you register. I think it took me about five minutes to get through.

After it's well seeded at Dime, I may put it on Demonoid for the fuck of it.
Grand Pontiff
Curly21029 wrote:The Izod boot was received yesterday. After some editing, it's now ready for download here.

Sorry for the delay, but it was much more of a pain in the ass than I anticipated.
Thanks a ton Curly!! It's great to have video of a show you attended, now I have this one and the Philly show from '05. I'll seed for as long as I possibly can on DIME. Hopefully it's done downloading when I get home from work cause I can't wait to watch it.
Master of the Ninth Arch
Curly21029 wrote:The Izod boot was received yesterday. After some editing, it's now ready for download here.

Sorry for the delay, but it was much more of a pain in the ass than I anticipated.
Thank you SO much!
Troll
thanks Curly21029 :)
Bricklayer
Downloading now.

Thanks Curly21029!

Luis
Bricklayer
thanks curly...i finally got a dime account...now we need someone to seed this thing lol
Grand Pontiff
mikedoggy wrote:thanks curly...i finally got a dime account...now we need someone to seed this thing What what in da butt
I'm at work, but when I left my house there were a good ten people seeding. I know I still am.
Master Traveler
Curly21029 wrote:
mikedoggy wrote:thanks curly...i finally got a dime account...now we need someone to seed this thing What what in da butt
I'm at work, but when I left my house there were a good ten people seeding. I know I still am.
I'm still waiting to grab a few seeders, but I'm sure it'll start soon. Thanks a bunch for getting this to us curly!

-CEJ
Grand Pontiff
can someone please post this on a different p2p website I dont have a dime account
Knight of the Royal Axe
Curly21029 wrote:The Izod boot was received yesterday. After some editing, it's now ready for download here.

Sorry for the delay, but it was much more of a pain in the ass than I anticipated.
thank you million times!
it's so great to have memories back
Master of Achievement
From philly thread, re liberating philly dvd from same seller:
eatyourblud wrote:Philly dvd looks like a lost cause...One month after order and still being fucked around. Different story every few days. Anyone else order it from this douchebag? Same "audio issues" bullshit fed to you too?

Fuck it.
Bricklayer
Is there an audio boot of this show available?
Master of the Ninth Arch
Curly21029 wrote:The Izod boot was received yesterday. After some editing, it's now ready for download here.

Sorry for the delay, but it was much more of a pain in the ass than I anticipated.
Thank you for this!!
Master of the Ninth Arch
gorny540 wrote:can someone please post this on a different p2p website I dont have a dime account
ditto
Grand Pontiff
TianaL85 wrote:
gorny540 wrote:can someone please post this on a different p2p website I dont have a dime account
ditto
Seriously? Is looking back one page really that difficult?
Grand Pontiff
alright the dime account registration finally showed up for me, this bootlegger really was a big douche for selling a product that has so much missing, but thank you for getting it, it's still great to have a boot since getting boots for arena shows is never that easy
Master of the Ninth Arch
gorny540 wrote:alright the dime account registration finally showed up for me, this bootlegger really was a big douche for selling a product that has so much missing, but thank you for getting it, it's still great to have a boot since getting boots for arena shows is never that easy
I agree..I am so grateful to have a video of this show, but I was really disappointed that Trent's speech before 'Hurt' is not included. That was one of the highlights of the show for me. That bootlegger does suck for having so much missing. He could have at least been upfront about it, but I feel bad for complaining because I had give up hope on having anything from this show.
Bricklayer
Here are 2 shots I took at this show :)

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The rest are on my myspace if you wanna check em out :)

Myspace

Just add me to check em out :D... if you want, add a lil message in the add request saying your friend here so I can say hi :D
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Master of the Ninth Arch
I'm sorry i wasn't at this show, however, is this the show that was in the LITS HD teaser clip?
Grand Pontiff
bullets_hurt wrote:I'm sorry i wasn't at this show, however, is this the show that was in the LITS HD teaser clip?
The teaser is from a collection of shows, some of it may be from this show but the only thing I can verify is that Trent wears a red shirt at some point in the ad and he didn't wear a red shirt at this show
Grand Pontiff
http://www.zshare.net/video/52932396d07c38bc/

Remember earlier in this thread when people were saying how they saw several video cameras around and someone mentioned it was for an Apple commercial, it's not a commercial but the majority of this Apple technology video are from this show
Master Traveler
Does anyone know if there was a tour poster available for this show?